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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 28, 2019 2:57:53 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get the whole "we're going to compete while slashing payroll" thing is all going to work. Seems like a complete contradiction. JDM and JBJ could both be gone and they'd still be probably going over. I think the most telling thing is that they don't plan on trading Betts unless they're blown away. The team has never been shy about praising Mookie so I wouldn't necessarily think they're telling us anything about their intentions (unless I skimmed over something). If anything I think this indicates that a trade is more likely. He has the most movable large contract on the team, so if they need to trim budget (which is bs, but whatever) he looks like the easiest way to do that. On the non-Mookie side of things, I'd bet on most/all roster vacancies to be filled internally based on recent comments. I had to double check, but Jen pretty much comfirmed what I read- Ownership is probably going to have one more sit down and probably see if Mookie will take their final offer, whatever it is. Or maybe they just have a sit down with Mookie and ask him how much he's looking for and they don't like the answer and say "Well have a nice day Mookie." The meeting could be a formality to confirm what they really want to do- Trade Mookie. They could be meeting with him with the respect to let him know ahead of time that he could be moved since he's dead set on free agency/highest valued offer. All these things are speculative, but at least we know this meeting is going to take place at some point. You're right however, he's easily the easiest way to get below the CBT.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 22:50:38 GMT -5
So Mookie has declined 3 extension offers from the Sox. The Sox haven't gotten to the value he's seeking yet.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 22:22:15 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get the whole "we're going to compete while slashing payroll" thing is all going to work. Seems like a complete contradiction. JDM and JBJ could both be gone and they'd still be probably going over. I think the most telling thing is that they don't plan on trading Betts unless they're blown away. Well, with Porcello, Sandoval, Pearce, and Nunez def off the books that’s $50M. Arb raises (Mookie being the big one) probably eat $20-25M. Sale and X extension raises eat another $20M. So, yeah, they’d have to outright lose JDM or trade JBJ and drop Moreland to get close. It’s going to be tricky, for sure. I guess Pedrioa retiring could help, but the Sox shouldn't be planning for that. I have no idea if there's buyout rules in baseball either. Around 225 is the number if JDM doesn't opt out. They need to shed another 20 million, without making any other moves. If they then are serious about a Mookie extension, then they have even less room. Good luck to the next GM. He has a almost impossible task set out by this ownership group for next year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 20:02:22 GMT -5
So the plan, quite literally, is addition by subtraction? Can't wait to see the GM that takes this job. There will be an open job posting for the position on LinkedIn next week. Am I reading too much into this by thinking that they're going to try and trade some hitting for pitching? Yeah I don't get the whole "we're going to compete while slashing payroll" thing is all going to work. Seems like a complete contradiction. JDM and JBJ could both be gone and they'd still be probably going over. I think the most telling thing is that they don't plan on trading Betts unless they're blown away.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 19:48:28 GMT -5
So to summarize- the Sox don't plan on spending much money, yet they plan on competing. That could turn out to be a giant mess. Have no idea they go about doing this without trading JBJ and praying for a opt out with JDM.
At least they seem like they're ready to make another offer to Mookie this off-season. Maybe there's some hope they're willing to pay the man close to what he wants and keep him here.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 19:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 19:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 19:21:23 GMT -5
Here might be the difference in philosophy.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 19:18:22 GMT -5
Hopefully this year is a mulligan for Eovaldi coming back from a injury, but his results are raising real red flags here.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 15:54:15 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 15:51:21 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 15:47:28 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 15:26:00 GMT -5
At least Eduardo has a great chance to get win number 20 with old pal Chandler Shepherd on the mound.
I'm going to miss that game. Taking the out the dad to see the new Rambo. Watching the Pats game until 4.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 14:35:20 GMT -5
Very interesting discussion from Kyrie on his season last year. He attributes a lot of his drive and attitude issues last year to the death of his grandfather, and he was reeling most of the year to make basketball and leadership a priority. This might also contribute to Marcus Smart's difference of opinion on Kyrie's leadership last year, since they were both dealing with impactful deaths at the same time. I was/am of the "get Kyrie out of here" point of view, but he takes more accountability here than I would have expected. I'm happy with the team as-is and think Kemba will be a better fit, but I appreciate what Kyrie said. This isn’t a surprise to me. I said it early on. Kyrie is very self reflective and is young and evolving. This is why I hated all the outright hatred and piling on. If you want people to change and develop we need to be more open. It’s alright to analyze a situation but that’s different than constant blame and piling on. It drove him away and I don’t blame him for that. Yeah, I doubt the people who piled on Kyrie are ever going to apologize for it. They just assumed the worst for the guy and just kept dumping on him after a tragic death that he didn't even reveal. Yeah after a lot of people dumped on me considering those circumstances, I would jump ship ASAP also.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 14:26:55 GMT -5
There's only 2 individual milestones left to get. Mookie with number 30 homerun on the season and win number 20 for Eduardo, then call it a season. Lol Twitter blew up over a dumb strikeout Mike Minor made yesterday. That was funny. The old timers hated that the Rangers dropped a pop up to get the strikeout. Baseball is just filled with old people who just don't know how people think in today's world. I gotta disagree with you here brother. It is undignified. Yeah, it doesn't have any real effect, but it is showing up your opponent. Owings might not be good, but he probably prefers a weak pop out over a K. Cora wasn't happy and I don't blame him. I didn't like it or Woodward trash response. The more these type of things matter less, the more bad behavior gets normalized. Look at our society in general, it isnt good Just think it really doesn't matter in grand scheme of things Jerry. They're kind of making a big deal out of nothing. Mike Minor might have incentives and money attached to it too, but I'm guessing on that one.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 8:30:20 GMT -5
Baseball does need a big fundamental change if they can't manage to ever end it's games. Start with the pitch clocks, then the pitching changes and limit those in a inning.
You can't shorten the games to 7 innings. That completely discredits the stats, even if the stats were discreted at the beginning of the steriod era.
I would love to hear someone else's suggestion on shortening the games, because I can only come up with the shaving of the counts one. Maybe people here like watching 3 and a half hour Red Sox games constantly. I find it tough myself, and I'm a junkie for it. If I had interests outside of baseball that would be close to my interest in baseball, I would be turning off the game too.
I would love to see a faster paced baseball game with fewer strikes and balls myself. Innings would be ending so quickly or rallies would be happening so quickly. I'm constantly playing with my phone during a at bat these days, because the at bats are just taking too long.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 8:11:28 GMT -5
Know nothing about the guy, but he's the new full back with Devlin out the rest of the year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 8:09:14 GMT -5
Sounds like a rival executive trying to talk something into happening. It makes no sense to trade Xander unless they can unload Price or Sale along with him. Xander's contract is one of the better contracts in the league. Also the ramifications of trading a guy who just signed a team friendly deal because he seemingly enjoys Boston and wants to remain there for a long time could go on for years. Yeah, that would make the Bronson Arroyo trade seem benign in comparison. Xander is the core center of this team. He's lined up to be a Red Sox for 14 seasons and still only be turning 33 years old. Xander is a guy who still has the possibility of being a 20 year lifelong Red Sox, and a guy who could surpass 300 hits, perhaps 400 HRs, has played a role in 2 Red Sox World Champions (and counting), and has a chance to wind up in the HOF - if he stays healthy and finds another position to be productive at beyond SS once he hits his 30s. Basically Xander is the opposite of a guy you trade. Ironically, this is what he posted about King Felix staying in Seattle too.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 7:53:31 GMT -5
I have a hard time putting Curry ahead of Kobe in any list. Kobe was a better defender and all around player.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 7:48:17 GMT -5
There's only 2 individual milestones left to get. Mookie with number 30 homerun on the season and win number 20 for Eduardo, then call it a season. Lol Twitter blew up over a dumb strikeout Mike Minor made yesterday. That was funny. The old timers hated that the Rangers dropped a pop up to get the strikeout. Baseball is just filled with old people who just don't know how people think in today's world. Devers needs 2 more XBH to become the third under 23 year old with 90 XBH in a season. Only ARoid and Joe DiMaggio have done that. Yeah, missed that one. It'll get stashed away in the history books, but I don't know how memorable it'll be. It's cool to have Devers attached to those names though. It'll be amazing to see where Devers' offensive career goes moving forward. I think Mookie getting 30 is a huge milestone. I hope he gets it before it's over.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 5:22:51 GMT -5
There's only 2 individual milestones left to get. Mookie with number 30 homerun on the season and win number 20 for Eduardo, then call it a season.
Lol Twitter blew up over a dumb strikeout Mike Minor made yesterday. That was funny. The old timers hated that the Rangers dropped a pop up to get the strikeout. Baseball is just filled with old people who just don't know how people think in today's world.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 27, 2019 0:26:28 GMT -5
I mean Tim Cook's quality of life could not possibly be improved by making more money at this point but he keeps showing up to work every day. I don't know why people only notice how weird that is when it's an athlete. Show up for work? Of course. I'm sure Mookie loves playing, loves being one of the best at it, and all that. Why, I bet he'd do it for a mere $1 million a year if that's what the market was. (Same all goes for Tim Cook, I suppose, though what he's good at is far worse for human society than what Mookie's good at.) But if someone gave you the option of a guaranteed $270 million or a mere likelihood of $350 million, wouldn't you take the bird in hand? If you've gone this far, you're likely locked into wanting that 350 million or beyond. His arbitration years covered any real risks of him being in any danger of future life security. I don't blame Mookie for thinking this way if he loves money more than anything else (which seems to be the case here).
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 26, 2019 21:36:29 GMT -5
I wish I could smoke again. Would be nice, but time to grow up and I got a career lol. I used to write actuary equations and would hope that people would die. I did that for too long. Now, I run a pet company and smoke frequently. To each his own. I make a very good living and set my own schedule. 65k a year and no human contact. That does sound great. My career includes regular drug testing. I would be doing it, if that wasn't the case.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 26, 2019 20:19:55 GMT -5
Sometimes, I wish I could just light up a gravity bong for everyone. I love the discussion, but please be more respectable in terms of the opinion of others. I would love more focus on the future and less complaining about the current. I wish I could smoke again. Would be nice, but time to grow up and I got a career lol.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 26, 2019 20:11:33 GMT -5
I wasn't contradicting myself because they are two totally seperate things, but you and others are allowed to spin it into the same thing, if they chose, like you did in your original post. Just relax. Why all of the hate? No hate, I like Incandenza's posts. Just disagreed with him on that fashioned. I have been very straightforward with everything honestly.
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