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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 26, 2024 20:32:05 GMT -5
So if he gets a direct quote from an agent, you want him to change the quote because it might hurt someone's feelings? Do I have that right? No, I’m saying possessing even an ounce of common sense should make anyone able to read that tweet and understand that there’s a very clear motive behind tweeting it at all, and inferring anything else is just a withering attempt at clinging onto preexisting biases (in case you aren’t picking up on it, I’m saying that’s what you’re doing). Of course they have motivations. Also doesn't mean what they're saying isnt true. Again, until Cotillo is wrong this off-season, then the only people who lack common sense are the people who are attacking him (in case you aren't picking up on it, I'm saying that's what you're doing)
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 26, 2024 19:54:14 GMT -5
Meeting with Montgomery is both free, and allows them to say later that they were super interested, but dang it, just couldn't come to a deal. It is financially free to meet with Jordan Montgomery - but having some of the most important people in your organization (Breslow, Cora, Andrew Bailey?) spend the time to meet with and pitch Jordan Montgomery (an hour?) as well as prepare for said pitch (several hours combined - including from other folks in the organization?) right as spring training is beginning? If they were doing all that for PR reasons that is a giant waste of time for some incredibly busy people. Right but I'm assuming that happens one time in the off-season. Hopefully LONG before now. At this point it sounds more like they're just keeping tabs with Boras (a quick text) to see if demands have changed enough to their liking, but they aren't increasing their offer beyond what they already sent in their initial meeting. My best bet is thats what's happening and it lets Boras use the Red Sox to get more money from whatever other team actually might be signing Monty, and it lets the Red Sox point to how much they really really wanted to sign him all along. Win-Win. Or win-win-win if you're a fan of the office.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 26, 2024 19:44:22 GMT -5
Until Cotillo is actually wrong on something that matters this off-season, his articles should be taken as gospel. He still deserves an apology thread for the ridiculous comments that have been thrown his way the last few months. Sorry but if you can’t see the obvious slant here, then you’re just as blinded by whatever’s gotten to him as well, even if he is reporting accurately. So if he gets a direct quote from an agent, you want him to change the quote because it might hurt someone's feelings? Do I have that right?
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 26, 2024 19:23:17 GMT -5
Until Cotillo is actually wrong on something that matters this off-season, his articles should be taken as gospel.
He still deserves an apology thread for the ridiculous comments that have been thrown his way the last few months.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 26, 2024 19:19:34 GMT -5
It seems weird to (allegedly) be nickel-and-diming guys on minor league deals, and yet at the same time be meeting with someone who will likely cost you 9 figure money if you sign him. I can’t even get mad at this report, I’m just confused. Meeting with Montgomery is both free, and allows them to say later that they were super interested, but dang it, just couldn't come to a deal.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 26, 2024 16:00:14 GMT -5
The fact that you listed 5 names in your post, and 3 of those names aren't currently on the Sox, should tell you that this offseason has been as bad as you'd think. This comment doesn't actually make sense if you follow what I actually wrote, but I know there is nothing that will make this poster happy so whatever. Nothing would make me happy? You can't think of a single thing that would make me happy?
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 26, 2024 15:26:37 GMT -5
Offering Yamamoto $300M, Signing Montgomery and Giolito, swapping Sale for Grissom, and making a few trades for legitimate depth to add pitching prospects would be a wonderful offseason. I understand one of those things hasn't happened yet, but it puts in perspective how maybe this offseason hasn't been as bad as you'd think. The fact that you listed 5 names in your post, and 3 of those names aren't currently on the Sox, should tell you that this offseason has been as bad as you'd think.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 20, 2024 20:01:20 GMT -5
They should trade him. He's never come close to being the super star I was wishing for and now he's actively working against the team. Actively working against the team? How low is your IQ man?
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 20, 2024 16:54:34 GMT -5
Ok, I'm asking everyone to not divert this thread. Let's keep it to spring training news please. Devers is talking about the Sox not signing Free Agents. This talk would be a better place in the Free-Agency thread, but it was closed for some reason.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 20, 2024 14:55:45 GMT -5
Derek Jeter -- who I disliked as much, or more, than any Yankee ever -- "wanted to win" too. He showed that by fighting through every at bat and humping it out of the box every time he put the ball in play. Don't talk about it. Be about it. I love this example. Jeter had an ownership that put their money where their mouth was every single year he was in the majors as a player. He never had a reason to complain about them and he worked as hard as they did. Then, he joined the Marlins organization as an owner, and because they didn't do the same, he called them out and quit.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 20, 2024 14:15:36 GMT -5
Ownership isn't giving their best, why should he? Pride? One can always find a reason to not work hard. Why don't you hold ownership to that same expectation?
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 20, 2024 14:09:29 GMT -5
Wonder if the Face of the Franchise plans to run out ground balls this year? If not, then shut your trap. Ownership isn't giving their best, why should he?
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 20, 2024 13:59:59 GMT -5
Devers, Jansen and Pedroia out here dropping truth bombs so far. Hopefully more do the same so the owners can wake the hell up
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 15, 2024 20:14:58 GMT -5
I don’t understand why the mods keep closing/deleting Free Agency threads while 5 of the top 10 free agents are still available and free agency is very much ongoing. Don’t think it belongs in non-Red Sox, because there’s still a chance we sign one of them. Right? We went from "It's still early" to "that's all folks" real quick
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 13, 2024 17:15:22 GMT -5
It’s simultaneously true that this is clearly the worst in the division, and it’s an above-average roster overall and still has the potential to produce a very entertaining season if they get a little luck. If you want to be angry, there are plenty of things to be upset about. Of you want to be optimistic, there are plenty of things to look forward to. The offseason was a failure the moment Yamamoto signed in LA, but I like the moves they did make and beyond YY I’m not too upset about the guys they missed out on. Do Montgomery and Soler move the needle enough to justify paying them $40 million three years from now, when they project for a combined 2.1 fWAR? Do you want to pay Blake Snell $30+ million when he’s 37? I have a tough time with those, they feel like moves the Rockies or Angels would make. If their plan is really to wait until their top prospects are up and productive before spending money, I don’t think that’s a great idea. But if the plan is to wait until players they actually want to spend big money on are on the market, which just so happens to give them another year to evaluate what they have, that’s not the worst backup plan. You're not saying otherwise, but the problem with the bolded is that you can put every single signing or potential signing into a vacuum and say it's a bad idea - but then you're left bringing the same team to spring training that finished the last month of '23 with 32% winning percentage. At some point, the FO needed to make a decision on who they were going to take a chance on, and get a deal done, but they didn't. That is, of course, if goal was to actually win in '24. And as to your last point - that's exactly right. It doesn't seem like winning this year is relevant to this FO. Most of us are upset with the off-season because there were stated goals, with a nice bow on top of expecting a "Full Throttle" off-season. Turns out that was a marketing strategy, and not a baseball operations one. If expectations on the off-season were correctly stated from the beginning, then there wouldn't be as much of an outrage - but there would have also been less season tickets sold, and we can't have THAT!
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 13, 2024 15:01:35 GMT -5
And on a different note....There were quite a few posters concerned about hiring Breslow because his lack of experience. They were concerned he would be overmatched because he has never been in a position to be the guy pulling the trigger on deals. Then, today we get this:
I'm sure there are different readings of that, but it really just screams, "I wasn't prepared for the job"
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 13, 2024 14:59:13 GMT -5
Totally fair. And the post directly above my last by bettsonmookie is a great example of that. "They're going to suck, but I'll still have fun with it." I'm more talking about the ones that are ignoring the lack of moves, still predicting a playoff team, and then flaming anyone who thinks otherwise. … Is anyone actually doing that? Lol I've been shrugged off as a "WEEI Caller" by multiple people, multiple times this off-season, and when I posted a month ago that we are a worse team than the one we fielded last year I was told how stupid I was, because OF COURSE we're going to get better over the next month. Well....it's next month - pitchers and catchers are reporting - and we haven't done a damn thing since then. Meanwhile, those same posters have now switched from "Of course we're going to get better" to somehow "we're better" Which, as I said, was weird.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 13, 2024 14:48:01 GMT -5
I'll just say that it's super weird seeing so many people still whistling past the graveyard today. The Front Office laid out their own agenda how many ever months ago it was - and then failed every part of it. I think it's a pretty healthy attitude to seek out the enjoyable within situations you don't control. Totally fair. And the post directly above my last by bettsonmookie is a great example of that. "They're going to suck, but I'll still have fun with it." I'm more talking about the ones that are ignoring the lack of moves, still predicting a playoff team, and then flaming anyone who thinks otherwise.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 13, 2024 12:49:04 GMT -5
Well...The forum isn't letting me post the image I want...
I'll just say that it's super weird seeing so many people still whistling past the graveyard today. The Front Office laid out their own agenda how many ever months ago it was - and then failed every part of it.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 9, 2024 8:19:21 GMT -5
The comparison between the checklist and writeups of the Red Sox and Tigers is amusing. Red Sox: 78 wins, "most last place finishes of any team, unclear when their window is" Tigers: 78 wins, "most wins since 2016, ready to contend". 🤡 The circlejerk continues, unfortunately. That's the difference of being in the East and the Central.
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 6, 2024 20:29:50 GMT -5
www.bostonglobe.com/2024/02/06/sports/2024-red-sox-roster-free-agents/Speier with a pretty strong critique of the Red Sox lack of FA activity. Ends with the usual caveat that maybe they still will add more, and if so it'll negate much of what he said. Another nugget I thought was interesting was the clearest assertion I've seen that Turner for Edward Cabrera was on the table at the trade deadline and the Sox turned it down. I know that had been reported as a possibility but I hadn't seen it stated so confidently. I'm not a big Cabrera fan at all, but that would have been nice. Just read that an entire story and remember the Turner rumors around the deadline. If Bloom actually turned down Turner for Cabrera, there is no where for the FO to go in 2024 but up. That's what I thought too, but then I saw this off-season, where Plan A was "get Yamomoto" and Plan B was "Let's play board games all winter"
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 6, 2024 14:04:56 GMT -5
Agree on the A’s sad decline; and that of the city. The move to Vegas entails blowing up the “historic” Tropicana and a $380 gift by taxpayers. Yuck. Imagine what 380M would do for students and the functions of other city services paid for by those taxpayers. Good on the Union and the mayor. It's not like the $ is going to go directly to the teachers and the union and if you think about it the tax revenue an MLB team is going to bring in over the course of it's existence is going dwarf the $380M so I find it silly but that's just my two cents. Isn't that the promise every time a new stadium is built, that it pays for itself? But then, surprise surprise, it never actually pays for itself?
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 5, 2024 20:46:46 GMT -5
MassLive style guide going with the "Brez" spelling. I think you gotta go "Bres" tbh The Z represents all the sleeping he's been doing this off-season
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 2, 2024 11:56:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think Theo is going to be spending pretty much any time on the Red Sox. This is FSG news, not Red Sox news. So he is onboard to advise about Motor Sport Racing and not Baseball I'm pretty sure that quote is made up? I don't see it any of the articles posted today...
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Post by swingingbunt on Feb 2, 2024 11:43:50 GMT -5
I don't get any feelings about this. Just doubt it moves the needle unless his ownership stake makes him see how a good team is better for business than a mediocre team. This. I'm so bitter with the Red Sox right now that I can't even enjoy when good things happen. Like, part of me wants to be happy about this, but the other part feels bad that Theo is now brought into this mess.
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