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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 29, 2013 19:51:40 GMT -5
X-Man is ready for his promotion. Playing 3rd....no problem! Batting 2nd....no problem! Double in the 1st. But Rubby is not. 2 IP, 4 walks, 6 runs. Man, he has really fallen apart lately.
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Post by wcp3 on Jul 29, 2013 20:03:33 GMT -5
On the bright side, Bogaerts has two more hits tonight as his average (.281) continues to climb toward .300. Even more impressive, his OBP is creeping closer to .400.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 29, 2013 20:20:26 GMT -5
Franklin Morales K's the side tonight. Contreras with a clean inning and 1K. Maybe our two "trade deadline" acquisitions?
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Post by ejenson on Jul 29, 2013 20:40:15 GMT -5
Greenville Drive won tonight in Greensboro 3-1..Justin Haley goes 6 gives up 1 run on 3 hits..Drive now 3 games out of first
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Post by lennsakata on Jul 29, 2013 20:54:15 GMT -5
Swihart has thrown out all three baserunners attempting to steal tonight. Should put him at or above 40% for the year I imagine.
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Post by rsnationiowa on Jul 29, 2013 21:27:03 GMT -5
Franklin Morales K's the side tonight. Contreras with a clean inning and 1K. Maybe our two "trade deadline" acquisitions? Totally agree. I have been thinking this for awhile, but nobody has really said much. A healthy Morales is better than most the Sox are going to get in a trade - without giving up anything. Also, Contreras' results have been good, but what has his stuff looked like? Again, he could be a huge addition. I just don't see the Sox real busy at the trade deadline.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 29, 2013 21:32:39 GMT -5
But Rubby is not. 2 IP, 4 walks, 6 runs. Man, he has really fallen apart lately. Well considering he threw all of 13 and 2/3 innings last year he could very well be hitting a wall. Not too concerned. Wouldn't even be surprised if he gets shut down at some point. When he's fresh next year at AAA I expect he'll be back to his excellent self.
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Post by godot on Jul 29, 2013 22:02:24 GMT -5
See that the writers of the board believe X-Man's time could be near. They have a pretty good grasp of a player's progress and sense as to what the Sox may be doing. So is the time getting closer?
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Post by wcp3 on Jul 29, 2013 22:14:27 GMT -5
It might be getting close to time for the Sox to shut Rubby down ... or at the very least, skip a start or two.
I was more concerned with him getting his stuff back this season, which by all accounts he did. Next season is the big one for guys like RDLR, Webster and (especially) Barnes.
Between the three of 'em, I still think we have at least one very good starter.
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Post by curll on Jul 29, 2013 22:15:12 GMT -5
See that the writers of the board believe X-Man's time could be near. They have a pretty good grasp of a player's progress and sense as to what the Sox may be doing. So is the time getting closer? Well, he's just performing well and very open to learning. At this rate, there isn't much more he can learn in the minors, his skills are developed far beyond his years, and he'd likely be better served getting major league coaching and seeing MLB games first-hand. It is a rare case, but in my opinion, his development is being held back by being in the minors.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 29, 2013 22:16:06 GMT -5
See that the writers of the board believe X-Man's time could be near. They have a pretty good grasp of a player's progress and sense as to what the Sox may be doing. So is the time getting closer? Well, he's just performing well and very open to learning. At this rate, there isn't much more he can learn in the minors, his skills are developed far beyond his years, and he'd likely be better served getting major league coaching and seeing MLB games first-hand. It is a rare case, but in my opinion, his development is being held back by being in the minors. I'll say it again, the learning he can do in the minors is on defense at third base, where he can use the work before coming up.
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Post by curll on Jul 29, 2013 22:25:04 GMT -5
Well...yes. Okay, then.
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Post by theaveragefan88 on Jul 29, 2013 22:28:08 GMT -5
Well, he's just performing well and very open to learning. At this rate, there isn't much more he can learn in the minors, his skills are developed far beyond his years, and he'd likely be better served getting major league coaching and seeing MLB games first-hand. It is a rare case, but in my opinion, his development is being held back by being in the minors. I'll say it again, the learning he can do in the minors is on defense at third base, where he can use the work before coming up. Completely agree. His plate discipline is unreal for any prospect, let alone a 20 year old offensive machine. His power is really coming around now as well. With the way the pro team is put together this season and to a lesser extent in the future, the big thing he needs are more reps at 3rd base to be able to contribute in September (hopefully).
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 29, 2013 22:28:54 GMT -5
Hey, De La Rosa and Webster were basically freebies in the trade. So, what did you expect? The Red Sox got two great electric arms in that trade Unfortunately neither of them can throw strikes.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jul 30, 2013 6:57:09 GMT -5
As you will....Trey was wild especially high in these clips. After Trey Ball's first pitch was hit----a ground ball to 3rd and the batter got on by error....here is the video of the next batter: Here is the next batter that Trey pitched to: Here is an extended at-bat with a player who is attempting to bunt and finally K's by fouling his last bunt attempt: His last batter was the Rays 1st round draft choice Nick Cuiffo. Man he looked good as did their shortstop.....Riley Unroe. I PROMISE I WAS NOT DRINKING. I PROMISE THERE WAS NO EARTH QUAKE GOING ON DURING THE GAME. I PROMISE I TAKE MY MEDICATION EVERY DAY. * go to a wide screen. You're not kidding about Ciuffo, he looks poised and really quiet at the plate. Looked confident taking a few strikes and was still able to unload on a 2-strike pitch. Don't know anything about the kid, but I did like what I saw in that at bat. His at-bat was impressive, but what really impressed me was several fine defensive plays he made. Can see Cuiffo in 4 or 5 years being the Rays catcher for quite awhile.
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Post by charliezink16 on Jul 30, 2013 10:45:11 GMT -5
Well, he's just performing well and very open to learning. At this rate, there isn't much more he can learn in the minors, his skills are developed far beyond his years, and he'd likely be better served getting major league coaching and seeing MLB games first-hand. It is a rare case, but in my opinion, his development is being held back by being in the minors. I'll say it again, the learning he can do in the minors is on defense at third base, where he can use the work before coming up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't defense the one thing you can work on at any level? I mean it's not like ground balls become harder and harder as you advance through the minors (in fact they probably become easier at the MLB level with better infields). I understand your point, it would be nice for him to get accustomed to the position before coming up to the big leagues, but I feel that the value his bat would bring to this struggling lineup and the spark he would provide against lefties outweighs the cost of a couple additional errors and miscues as he continues to learn the position at the major league level.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 30, 2013 11:11:03 GMT -5
In general I think that's true, but third base probably has the biggest difference between the majors and Triple-A of anywhere on the defensive spectrum. The ball comes off the bat of right-handed hitters really fast over there, and if he's not used to the angles and timing it can really be difficult.
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Post by dd on Jul 30, 2013 11:37:10 GMT -5
I'll say it again, the learning he can do in the minors is on defense at third base, where he can use the work before coming up. Completely agree. His plate discipline is unreal for any prospect, let alone a 20 year old offensive machine. His power is really coming around now as well. With the way the pro team is put together this season and to a lesser extent in the future, the big thing he needs are more reps at 3rd base to be able to contribute in September (hopefully). Wouldn't the Sox want to bring him up in August, at least for the proverbial cup of coffee, so he's available in October if needed?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2013 11:55:09 GMT -5
In general I think that's true, but third base probably has the biggest difference between the majors and Triple-A of anywhere on the defensive spectrum. The ball comes off the bat of right-handed hitters really fast over there, and if he's not used to the angles and timing it can really be difficult. And it would be a minus to a team in the playoff race
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