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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 18, 2013 9:52:36 GMT -5
This is spooky. The photographer's name in the top picture is Koji Watanabe. Methinks that's a beseball gods talking thing. I was heavily in favor of the other teams fighting it out for him but not so sure now. ADD: I consider myself to be somewhat of fairly knowledgeable person in religion sociology. If he is Shinto persuasion that fact would weigh heavy on his mind.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 18, 2013 9:54:35 GMT -5
HAHAHA! Getting weird on japanese tv is an oxymoron.
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Post by sarasoxer on Dec 18, 2013 10:54:12 GMT -5
Badler via Twitter also said that "under the table payments" are illegal, but happen in MLB. He wasn't offering evidence, but then again, 140 characters, and that's a rumbling that's been out there for years. Then again, you had an official MLB investigator offering a brown paper bag with more than $100K cash for some of ARod's records, so…. Well, I am all for baseball's brown bag policy if it helps rid the game of PEDs. N.Y. papers are all but penciling Tanaka into the Yankee rotation. According to the referenced article, the Yankees are already at $177M in 2014 payroll with only 15 players signed. Tanaka will blow them well past the supposed $189M target...even with A-Rod gone. The CBA needs to look at a stronger governor. www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/yankees-slapped-28m-luxury-tax-article-1.1550986
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 18, 2013 12:55:55 GMT -5
HAHAHA! Getting weird on japanese tv is an oxymoron. LOL, I assume you meant redundant ?
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 18, 2013 13:05:26 GMT -5
HAHAHA! Getting weird on japanese tv is an oxymoron. LOL, I assume you meant redundant ? Yeah, hadn't had my coffee yet. Doh!
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Dec 18, 2013 14:25:44 GMT -5
Badler via Twitter also said that "under the table payments" are illegal, but happen in MLB. He wasn't offering evidence, but then again, 140 characters, and that's a rumbling that's been out there for years. Then again, you had an official MLB investigator offering a brown paper bag with more than $100K cash for some of ARod's records, so…. Well, I am all for baseball's brown bag policy if it helps rid the game of PEDs. N.Y. papers are all but penciling Tanaka into the Yankee rotation. According to the referenced article, the Yankees are already at $177M in 2014 payroll with only 15 players signed. Tanaka will blow them well past the supposed $189M target...even with A-Rod gone. The CBA needs to look at a stronger governor. www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/yankees-slapped-28m-luxury-tax-article-1.1550986If they had signed Infante, as they almost guaranteed they would, they would have been real close to the luxury tax limit. It seems that they will blow right past it but maybe they unload some salary also. Or just go extremely cheap for the rest of the winter. I wouldn't count on it though. It probably makes sense for them to run the table with FA options.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 18, 2013 15:27:08 GMT -5
More from ESPN on Tanaka: espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10154435/mlb-japanese-pitcher-masahiro-tanaka-worth-fussLots of endorsements by scouts and players in Japan who have played in the U.S., including this one: Eagles pitcher and eight-year major league veteran Brandon Duckworth: "First and foremost, he throws pretty hard. Then there's the split-finger, which he throws with the same arm speed so that it comes out just like a fastball. It's crazy because that thing just falls off the table." The basic gist of the piece - Tanaka is well worth the $$$. (Special Note: I did not write this piece, I am just posting it here - i.e. I am all for this guy and we all already know that; this is just more info/hype/fodder for "I told you so"s and/or regrets six months from now.)
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 18, 2013 17:34:31 GMT -5
“@jcoskrey: Rakuten official told Kyodo a decision on Tanaka could take a while. Nothing decided or simple (via Kyodo wire) #NPB #MLB”
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 18, 2013 17:38:49 GMT -5
“@jcoskrey: Rakuten official told Kyodo a decision on Tanaka could take a while. Nothing decided or simple (via Kyodo wire) #NPB #MLB” Probably working out the money to Rakyten and the other players that they have to post and get signed first like Badler forecast. lol
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 18, 2013 17:49:00 GMT -5
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Post by station13 on Dec 18, 2013 18:08:14 GMT -5
Until the MFY ponied up $120mm
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Post by soxfanatic on Dec 19, 2013 7:05:16 GMT -5
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Post by burythehammer on Dec 19, 2013 7:53:40 GMT -5
I don't buy it. I still say he gets posted.
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Post by sarasoxer on Dec 19, 2013 8:03:37 GMT -5
I don't buy it. I still say he gets posted. Yup. Maybe all are waiting for the A-Rod situation to unfold. If A-Rod isn't a drag in 2014, Yanks proabably would be more willing to cough up big bucks. Though, how this would impact the Eagles who knows, unless there are some illicit side deals.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Dec 19, 2013 8:04:39 GMT -5
Well they may post him next year and still can get 20m posting fee.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 19, 2013 8:42:34 GMT -5
Wouldn't the Yankees be more willing to spend big money if Arod is on the books then if he were off them? If he's off, there is a chance to stay under the CBT. If not, they are over anyways so might as well spend away.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Dec 19, 2013 8:47:20 GMT -5
Why wouldn't they wait? $20 million isn't enough to go crazy about from their perspective, so why not get another year of his performance, then post him next year? That's what I would do, in their shoes.
I hope it works out that way, good for the Sox in a few different ways.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 19, 2013 8:56:59 GMT -5
Because he could get hurt and they get nothing as teams decide to just wait a year, until he's a free agent. Just pointing out one reason.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 19, 2013 9:59:23 GMT -5
Their owner seems to be plenty rich so he ain't missing 20 million dollars. It's a gamble he can take.
Edit: According to Japanese reports that I read on MLBTR they have offered him a raise that would double his salary (to $7.7) and make him the highest paid pitcher in the Japanese league history.
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Dec 19, 2013 10:08:46 GMT -5
Its not a gamble at all.
Outside of a bus hit or a fatal spicy tuna roll, what type of injury keeps all mlb teams from the 20 million posting fee?
Even tommy john wouldn't prevent the full posting fee.
the only thing a baseball injury hurts is the actual dough to Tanaka.
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Post by soxfanatic on Dec 19, 2013 10:10:35 GMT -5
Ben Badler ?@benbadler 1m No decision yet from Rakuten on Masahiro Tanaka.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 19, 2013 10:37:09 GMT -5
I don't buy it. I still say he gets posted. Yup. Maybe all are waiting for the A-Rod situation to unfold. If A-Rod isn't a drag in 2014, Yanks proabably would be more willing to cough up big bucks. Though, how this would impact the Eagles who knows, unless there are some illicit side deals. According to the agreement they have until March 1 to decide. There appears to be some intimation in the Japanese papers that there is a "cultural issue" where the owner is saying he doesn't like the idea of the Japanese league being seen as akin to a minor league feeder league for MLB. Although for $80M, it wasn't so bad...
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Post by burythehammer on Dec 19, 2013 11:52:41 GMT -5
Why wouldn't they wait? $20 million isn't enough to go crazy about from their perspective, so why not get another year of his performance, then post him next year? That's what I would do, in their shoes. Because MLB gets what they want generally. Though I'm not sure how motivated MLB (as in the organization not the individual teams) is to have him posted ASAP.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 19, 2013 12:00:03 GMT -5
offshore bank account filled up for decision maker...
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Dec 19, 2013 13:02:22 GMT -5
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