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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 16, 2012 20:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by klostrophobic on Sept 16, 2012 20:32:58 GMT -5
Xander Gryska starred in a four minute short from 1979 titled, "The Eliminator."
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Post by burythehammer on Sept 17, 2012 5:54:35 GMT -5
Seriously? And I thought my nickname for him was a stretch (though I still think The Big Sleep is a boss nickname).
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Post by bentossaurus on Sept 17, 2012 7:26:58 GMT -5
The guy's first name is Xander. Xander!
Why do we need a nickname?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 17, 2012 10:40:36 GMT -5
Something to keep an eye on is the upcoming World Baseball Classic. The Netherlands does have a team that had Blyleven managing last time around. I'm sure Bogaerts will be part of that team this time. Edit: Figured out how to get some color on a link. Wrap the Colors attribute around the words that will point to the link. Finally, embed the whole thing as the text in a url. Here's the link to the page that has the details on building a url (see the section titled Insert Hyperlink).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 18, 2012 12:31:38 GMT -5
Something to keep an eye on is the upcoming World Baseball Classic. The Netherlands does have a team that had Blyleven managing last time around. I'm sure Bogaerts will be part of that team this time. Edit: Figured out how to get some color on a link. Wrap the Colors attribute around the words that will point to the link. Finally, embed the whole thing as the text in a url. Here's the link to the page that has the details on building a url (see the section titled Insert Hyperlink). He was on their World Cup team last fall, although he didn't get much PT. I agree that he's probably a good bet to be on the team.
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Post by Jon Meoli on Sept 18, 2012 15:03:10 GMT -5
To say nothing of the established big-league talent on a Netherlands team, they're stacked with middle infield prospects with Profar and Schoop. If Cherington and Co. won't bend on letting him play 3rd as they did for the Futures Game, it could easily be another exercise in benchwarming.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Sept 18, 2012 15:11:47 GMT -5
The guy's first name is Xander. Xander! Why do we need a nickname? I agree. But if we MUST have a nickname, why stray far from his name for something like The Eliminator. Just call him the X Factor.
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Post by remember04 on Sept 18, 2012 16:41:34 GMT -5
I can't believe I'm getting involved in this Xandyman works best for me.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Sept 18, 2012 19:34:49 GMT -5
I can't believe I'm getting involved in this Xandyman works best for me. Mr. Xandman, bring me a dream ........
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Post by patrmac04 on Sept 19, 2012 10:09:23 GMT -5
I think this is a great question to ask Sickels when he opens a forum to the public in the future. The Eliminator It is a terrible nickname... that and nobody has a clue as to why it came about. Big Papi... came from Manny and we loved it Yoouuuuuuk... well came from his name and we loved it Petey.... same deal...from Pedroia's name Ace... Aceves... ditto Pedro... he was Pedro... he needed no nickname The Sandman... Metallica song and signified why the song meant Mariano Rivera Pokey... his mom gave him that name Without the story behind it... the name just sounds like a brain fart.
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Post by curll on Sept 19, 2012 10:16:23 GMT -5
Pedro's nickname was Pede, because Pedro is spanish for Peter.
Ortiz calls everyone Papi, so he became BIG Papi.
Pedroia's "Pede" came from Gammons, who let us know people called him Pedro or Pede. His nickname is "Laser Show".
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Post by patrmac04 on Sept 19, 2012 10:33:19 GMT -5
Pedro's nickname was Pede, because Pedro is spanish for Peter. Ortiz calls everyone Papi, so he became BIG Papi. Pedroia's "Pede" came from Gammons, who let us know people called him Pedro or Pede. His nickname is "Laser Show". Pedro Martinez called Ortiz 'Big Papi' during spring training in his first year in Boston... Nomar and Manny laughed about it and Manny Ramirez was the one to push it. Pedro was sometimes called pete, but he was Pedro and will always be Pedro. I do like Pedroia's self given nickname laser show that came from this interview:
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Post by patrmac04 on Sept 19, 2012 10:39:20 GMT -5
So if I were to give Xander a nickname by the way it would be X Man after the superhero's in X Men... Professor X was a consideration, but the guy was in a wheel chair and had mind powers... not really feats of strength.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 19, 2012 13:13:25 GMT -5
I vote for "Bob".
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 19, 2012 13:52:06 GMT -5
I'm just hoping we move "Bob" to the outfield so we can enjoy Bob"s bat in 2014!
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Post by bringhanleyback2 on Sept 19, 2012 14:08:59 GMT -5
I have always liked X man. Another one that comes to mind is XXX or Triple X because Vin Diesel's character in that movie was named Xander.
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Post by mainesox on Sept 19, 2012 17:54:42 GMT -5
Other than calling someone Bob instead of Robert, or Tom instead of Thomas nicknames aren't supposed to be created, they're born - they're events - they 'happen.'
Also, something a bit more substantive: where would you peg Bogaerts' ETA at this point? September of next year? And what would you say his chances are of at least debuting as a SS at this point?
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Post by patrmac04 on Sept 19, 2012 19:09:18 GMT -5
I am in the minority, but with what I am seeing out of Iglesias... I would like him to compete for a job with the Sox out of camp.
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 19, 2012 20:18:06 GMT -5
Please...no nicknames....at least just yet. Jeezzz, the kid has 92 ABs in AA. (and I know that we all are spoofing here).
Xandyman and Xandman sound a lot like something the Yankees' radio announcer John Sterling ...who I love to hate...would come up with.
e.g. When announcing a Granderson homerun his call is "Curtis does something kinda grandish"...then singing..."Oh the Grandy Man can, the Grandy Man can..." UGH!!!!
Off topic perhaps but goodness can you get any more amateurish and childish? Second grade stuff....How does this guy have a job?
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 19, 2012 20:26:18 GMT -5
I have always liked X man. Another one that comes to mind is XXX or Triple X because Vin Diesel's character in that movie was named Xander. How about "Alex" (or "Ale") for the missing first half of his name? Easier to remember, though we wouldn't want him confused with a former shortstop formerly coveted by the Red Sox now playing 3B in the NY area..
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Sept 20, 2012 7:28:26 GMT -5
I am in the minority, but with what I am seeing out of Iglesias... I would like him to compete for a job with the Sox out of camp. Not to push this idea, but does anyone have an authoritative assessment as to whether Xander will report to the major league spring training camp next year? I suspect he might. I think Xander is a very dangerous (in a good way) prospect precisely because he is 19. A 20-year-old Xander has the distinct possibility of being much different (again, in a good way) than the 19-year-old. We know how much a year can mean to some young men that age. His build is the type that may fill out pretty rapidly, and because of his innate hit and power tools he could explode onto the scene. I'm not saying he's going to be a Pujols or Cabrera, but there is the possibility he could be a poor man's version of those two. The real point is that he has the potential to force his way into the majors offensively before he is developed or his career path is clear defensively. If Xander were to force his way onto the major league roster next year, is his SS defense sufficiently adequate to allow him to play there at the major league level without embarrassing himself? I don't think I'd want to put him at 3B or LF before he's had any chance to play it in the minors, and I really doubt that, wherever in the system he starts next year, he's going to begin the season at any position other than SS. Or does anyone think that the organization MIGHT move him to some other position to start next season in anticipation that rapid offensive development might force him to the majors quickly - if for example he looks absolutely fabulous offensively in ST next year?
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 20, 2012 8:02:17 GMT -5
I am in the minority, but with what I am seeing out of Iglesias... I would like him to compete for a job with the Sox out of camp. Not to push this idea, but does anyone have an authoritative assessment as to whether Xander will report to the major league spring training camp next year? I suspect he might. I think Xander is a very dangerous (in a good way) prospect precisely because he is 19. A 20-year-old Xander has the distinct possibility of being much different (again, in a good way) than the 19-year-old. We know how much a year can mean to some young men that age. His build is the type that may fill out pretty rapidly, and because of his innate hit and power tools he could explode onto the scene. I'm not saying he's going to be a Pujols or Cabrera, but there is the possibility he could be a poor man's version of those two. The real point is that he has the potential to force his way into the majors offensively before he is developed or his career path is clear defensively. If Xander were to force his way onto the major league roster next year, is his SS defense sufficiently adequate to allow him to play there at the major league level without embarrassing himself? I don't think I'd want to put him at 3B or LF before he's had any chance to play it in the minors, and I really doubt that, wherever in the system he starts next year, he's going to begin the season at any position other than SS. Or does anyone think that the organization MIGHT move him to some other position to start next season in anticipation that rapid offensive development might force him to the majors quickly - if for example he looks absolutely fabulous offensively in ST next year? As I stated above ASF, I think (Bob) could possibly be ready sooner than later (at least offensively). I may be in the minority here, but I truly believe Iglesias is a special player and just needs to be played everyday. He is a true force on the defensive side and I think will at least be as good as several of the players the Rays run out there every night offensively. This kid will be like a safety blanket for our pitchers and, I believe, improve their production and ability to go deeper into a game. Why am I mentioning Iglesias? Because we can easily get by with a kid like him in the line-up for a year or two if the other 8 are solid contributors. Make the "D" outstanding. Improve the rotation depth, and lets get Xander's bat into the line-up immediately when he is ready. His bat is as special as Iglesias's glove. If Xander is ready offensively next year (probably not), then lets put him in a position to concentrate on what he does best. Lets be able to turn him loose. I wish we would make this player position decision sooner rather than later. I much rather see Xander playing right for us for the next 10 to 15 seasons, than hope Brentz will figure out pitch selection. Bottom line: both kids have "special" talents and lets allow them to contribute real soon. Iglesias HAS shown better plate selection, the ability to bunt, that he is a very good base runner, and that he understands the game well.
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Post by Chris Mellen on Sept 20, 2012 8:22:18 GMT -5
I think there is a chance Bogaerts gets an invitation to spring training to get the first taste of seeing how things work up in the big club's camp. The goal is to get him ready for the 2013 season so the stay is likely to be shorter and the return to minor league camp would probably coincide with the games beginning.
Presently, there isn't really a reason developmentally to move him off the shortstop position. I am expecting him to play the 2013 season as a shortstop. There is a lot of value in allowing him to continue to hone his defensive skills at the position because those skills will translate to other positions on the diamond. As an example, the continued work with his agility at shortstop will only make him a better third baseman if that is where he ultimately ends up.
It is possible that he makes his major league debut at shortstop. Other players have debuted at one position and then slide to another one when becoming regulars. Dustin Pedroia debuted as a shortstop out of need and then went over to second base, where most people saw he fit the best defensively as a big leaguer.
What the organization does this off-season in regards to the position will be interesting as well. If they were to use some resources to acquire a more established one, that may be a tell on what the true long-term defensive view of Bogaerts is. Maybe. Maybe not.
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Post by brendan98 on Sept 20, 2012 8:25:55 GMT -5
Not sure why Xander needs a nickname, he has one of those great first names that kind of stands by itself. Pedro, Nomar, Ichiro, Mariano, they didn't need a nickname, hopefully in 5 years everyone will know exactly who you are talking about when someone says Xander.
Also, any thoughts why Xander isn't headed to the AFL this offseason?
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