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Post by fenwaythehardway on Oct 3, 2012 7:26:21 GMT -5
I would have been in favor of Eli had he not passed on. He was great as Tuco. Eli Wallach is still alive, 96 years old, and yes, a fine choice for the Red Sox '13 manager.
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Post by futurefenwaystars on Oct 3, 2012 8:19:57 GMT -5
I really want the Red Sox to hire Ryne Sandberg to be our next manager. He has done a really great job managing Lehigh Valley without much on-field talent and could be exactly what the Red Sox need.
It would also be nice to have a Hall-of-Fame player who could put diva players in their place in the clubhouse.
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Post by badfishnbc on Oct 3, 2012 13:40:37 GMT -5
Pat Listach, third-base coach, Chicago Cubs Lou Piniella told me a few years back that Listach will eventually become a successful manager. It was just the second time Piniella ever recommended someone to me; the other was Don Mattingly, who has become a huge success for the Los Angeles Dodgers. The 1992 American League Rookie of the Year has four years of minor league managing experience on his résumé as well as four years of major league coaching. I, for one, find Jim Bowden's opinions to be about as valuable as last year's calendar. That he would label Mattingly as a "huge success" only cements that opinion. I would like Dave Martinez because he seems to think the way the FO does, knows the division, and hence is at least moderately familiar with our guys, and has a fantastic beard. Double points for that last quality.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 3, 2012 13:53:55 GMT -5
Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats On his weekly ESPN video Gordon Edes says managerial candidates are Farrell, Alomar Jr., Mike Lowell, Brad Ausmus, and Bill Mueller
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Post by elguapo on Oct 3, 2012 14:06:40 GMT -5
I don't believe Ausmus, Mueller and Lowell - do any of them have real managerial or coaching experience? - maybe as coaches.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 3, 2012 14:11:38 GMT -5
I don't believe Ausmus, Mueller and Lowell - do any of them have real managerial or coaching experience? - maybe as coaches. didn't seem to hurt STL or CHW...... Guess we will see
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Post by elguapo on Oct 3, 2012 14:27:58 GMT -5
Not that they are incapable of being good managers, but experience helps and management has clearly preferred candidates with experience, to the extent of rejecting a slate of coaches without major league manager experience.
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Post by nomar on Oct 3, 2012 15:05:03 GMT -5
Bill Mueller is a name i heard today. I'd like that.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Oct 3, 2012 15:12:27 GMT -5
Bill Mueller is a name i heard today. I'd like that. This is really getting silly.
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Post by mainesox on Oct 3, 2012 16:36:32 GMT -5
I don't know about Billy Mueller, but I really like the idea of Lowell managing... in a year or so after he's spent a little time managing in the minors.
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Post by marti427 on Oct 3, 2012 16:48:36 GMT -5
Still waiting for more word of this but its on Yahoo Sports and CBS, so take it as you will. Red Sox upper management intends to dismiss Bobby Valentine once the season ends, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports. Here is the CBS article www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/20444781
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Post by elguapo on Oct 3, 2012 20:25:14 GMT -5
Bobby Valentine's tenure was doomed from the start. I think he'll be glad the nightmare is over. I always liked the guy, but what a horrible, horrible idea to hire him for this job.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 3, 2012 20:44:22 GMT -5
Bobby Valentine's tenure was doomed from the start. I think he'll be glad the nightmare is over. I always liked the guy, but what a horrible, horrible idea to hire him for this job. At least we made it through a season without him getting kicked out of a game and coming back out wearing a jacket and those funny glasses with the fake nose and mustache.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 3, 2012 21:56:35 GMT -5
I would have been in favor of Eli had he not passed on. He was great as Tuco. Eli Wallach is still alive, 96 years old, and yes, a fine choice for the Red Sox '13 manager. Damn, you're right. I re-played the last scene. "Blondie" didn't kill him! Still, he's probably too long in the tooth.
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Post by sarcasmo on Oct 4, 2012 7:09:39 GMT -5
Bill Mueller is a name i heard today. I'd like that. This is really getting silly. I hear Dave Roberts and Kevin Millar are now candidates as well.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Oct 4, 2012 8:35:36 GMT -5
Good to see Valentine going out classy, blaming it all on disloyal, back-stabbing coaches ...
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Post by borisman on Oct 4, 2012 8:47:41 GMT -5
Eli Wallach is still alive, 96 years old, and yes, a fine choice for the Red Sox '13 manager. Damn, you're right. I re-played the last scene. "Blondie" didn't kill him! Still, he's probably too long in the tooth. haha..that's the first thing that popped into my head was Tuco saying "don't die on me Blondie". Anyways, I think Farrell gets fired and gets hired here or comes here for small compensation (Milb bullpen arm).
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Oct 4, 2012 9:01:43 GMT -5
I want someone who has no connection to the current Red Sox administration. John Henry Era. It's like a broken down car. You don't fix it. You get a new one. My choice is Tony Pena. He has managing experience, is working in a big-market and even has some Red Sox years on his resume. He needs to come into the interview and tell Henry. The inmates aren't going to run the asylum. I won't call them out in the media like a Bobby V or Ozzie Guillen. But, they will hear it from me. I'd like to get Don Baylor as his bench coach. He could look at these twerps and tell them he'll beat the hell out of them if they don't straighten up.
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Post by curll on Oct 4, 2012 9:10:49 GMT -5
Let's get this show on the road, already. Fire him!
(Reminder to please refrain from using profanity. Thank you. - Mods)
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 4, 2012 9:27:53 GMT -5
Good to see Valentine going out classy, blaming it all on disloyal, back-stabbing coaches ... I don't know what you 're referring to. If its about yesterday's WEEI interview, he was candidly responding to a question posed by his relentless interviewers. I heard the entire interview and nowhere did he connect his coaches lack of support to the dismal record. I thought he has behaved with class in this last month when classless reporters and talk show hosts continually hounded him about being fired. Ordway and Holly, along with Felger and Mazzrotti and written media folks are the ones, IMO, who displayed complete lack of respect.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2012 10:58:35 GMT -5
Sibby, why on earth did he have to answer the question? It's not just you who's saying this, but I don't understand the argument.
I can't believe this, but I agree with Schilling who channeled his inner TempleUSox and called it gutless. It's been since reported that at least one guy he was referring to was Bogar. Guess who now carries that with him every time he interviews for a job? And don't you think, fair or otherwise, people are going to assume he's also talking about the guys who stuck around like Magadan and Tuck?
Valentine brings the "lack of respect" upon himself by actually answering the questions. Just pull a Belichick and dodge the question. He doesn't have a gun to his head, and he's not getting paid to give WEEI ratings (or at least in this sense). When you give a child a toy that makes noise, don't then complain about the child playing with the noise-making toy.
It's become clear that Valentine has come to resent the Boston media. But having seen him in action with them earlier in the year, he clearly LOVED the attention that came with a large full-time beat that he saw on, at minimum, a weekly basis even in the offseason. Now that he's established that he'll answer whatever question you give him (or that he'll show clear exasperation when it's come from the top that he can't answer it, as he has recently w/r/t injury questions), why the hell wouldn't the radio hosts, whose jobs are to get ratings, not to be nice to the manager, ask provocative questions?
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Post by elguapo on Oct 4, 2012 11:04:06 GMT -5
I like Jimy Williams' stock response when he didn't think the media needed to know why this or why that:
"Manager's decision."
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Post by iakovos11 on Oct 4, 2012 11:44:11 GMT -5
Agree 100% with you Chris. Being asked a question doesn't mean you have to answer. And I can't believe I agree with Schilling either, but he was spot on.
I miss Tito.
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Post by jmei on Oct 4, 2012 12:02:23 GMT -5
Bobby Valentine was officially let go today. Hopefully the hiring process does indeed progress more quickly this year.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 4, 2012 12:06:31 GMT -5
Huge surprise here. How many days before the Globe runs an ad paid for by Larry Lucchino?
Now get a manager that Ben wants and has new blood to be able to deal with the monster.
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