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Post by grandsalami on Jun 16, 2014 15:43:43 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp 5s
Red Sox minor-league lefty Mickey Pena has been suspended 100 games for a third positive test for a drug of abuse.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jun 16, 2014 15:52:37 GMT -5
Red Sox career will likely come to an end with this and possibly a career in affiliated baseball.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 16, 2014 16:13:41 GMT -5
Could this trigger promotion season?
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 16, 2014 16:13:55 GMT -5
Matt Huegel @matthuegelsp
That suspension is not for PEDs, btw. Drug of abuse means something such as marijuana, cocaine, etc. Sad.
Lumping marijuana and cocaine together is pretty sad, IMHO. Really don't get why American sports organizations feel a need to dole out additional punishment for marijuana use beyond whatever the law has to say about it.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 16, 2014 16:19:19 GMT -5
Could this trigger promotion season? No player ready to move from Salem to Portland was going to be stuck because of Mickey Pena. |
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 16, 2014 16:22:47 GMT -5
Matt Huegel @matthuegelsp That suspension is not for PEDs, btw. Drug of abuse means something such as marijuana, cocaine, etc. Sad. Lumping marijuana and cocaine together is pretty sad, IMHO. Really don't get why American sports organizations feel a need to dole out additional punishment for marijuana use beyond whatever the law has to say about it. I am sure that MLB, the Player's Association, the Red Sox and agents have told every player in their system on multiple occassions that there are severe penalties for violating the MLB drug policies. The fact that there are numerous players who violate MLB drug policies every year and who are willing to potentially throw away their careers to feed their addiction is unfortunate and sad. I hope that Pena gets the help he needs, including training for an alternative career path. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jun 16, 2014 16:26:09 GMT -5
Could this trigger promotion season? For now, it likely means McCarthy back to the rotation and Pete Ruiz up from Greenville. The only starter/piggyback from Salem I'd even be thinking about promoting is Justin Haley. I'd also like to find room for Dayan Diaz in Portland. |
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 16, 2014 16:31:35 GMT -5
Matt Huegel @matthuegelsp That suspension is not for PEDs, btw. Drug of abuse means something such as marijuana, cocaine, etc. Sad. Lumping marijuana and cocaine together is pretty sad, IMHO. Really don't get why American sports organizations feel a need to dole out additional punishment for marijuana use beyond whatever the law has to say about it. Totally agree...but I think some of that may change over the next decade...as American laws seem to be leaning towards decriminalization..at least to a certain degree. |
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Post by danr on Jun 16, 2014 16:42:34 GMT -5
Marijuana now is legal in Colorado and Washington, and soon will be in some other states, and it appears the feds are relaxing their enforcement efforts. MLB should revise its policies on marijuana.
What makes it tricky for these kids is that many don't realize that pot stays in a human's system for about four weeks after one use, and thus can be detected for that long after use. It lasts much longer than the harder drugs.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 16, 2014 16:43:58 GMT -5
I imagine that he won't be ranked our 55th best prospect for much longer. Sell! Sell! Sell!
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 16, 2014 17:21:46 GMT -5
Hmmm.. Last time I checked news in states such as CA and Colorodo regarding news there, the Feds were still prosectuting and NOT abiding by state approved voter laws and treating weed growers as criminals. Even California realizes it's a problem and when the Huffington post decides to take note of it? That leaves little more explanation required: New California grow laws |
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Post by cdj on Jun 16, 2014 18:03:51 GMT -5
Unfortunate if it's for weed. Shouldn't get the rap the others do. But still, you know you're getting tested....
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 16, 2014 18:04:35 GMT -5
Hmmm.. Last time I checked news in states such as CA and Colorodo regarding news there, the Feds were still prosectuting and NOT abiding by state approved voter laws and treating weed growers as criminals. Even California realizes it's a problem and when the Huffington post decides to take note of it? That leaves little more explanation required: New California grow lawsThat's interesting....I didn't realize that, but it seemed to me that the overall literature was trending that way. I don't have a dog in the fight at this point in my life....but I always was and will be an advocate of the Peter Tosh school of marijuana laws. |
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Post by terriblehondo on Jun 16, 2014 18:55:12 GMT -5
You cannot fix stupid
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Post by onbase on Jun 16, 2014 19:36:12 GMT -5
That's really what it comes down to. I'm all for subjecting marijuana to the same regulations (and taxes) as alcohol, but when you have something to lose, breaking the law or the rules is ... stupid. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 17, 2014 5:25:11 GMT -5
That's really what it comes down to. I'm all for subjecting marijuana to the same regulations (and taxes) as alcohol, but when you have something to lose, breaking the law or the rules is ... stupid. Particularly when it's the third time. |
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 17, 2014 6:36:24 GMT -5
The question here isn't should weed be legal (do we know his suspension was weed?), not really sure this is the forum to debate that either. This was his third offense, it obviously wasn't a mistake.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 6:43:57 GMT -5
The question here isn't should weed be legal (do we know his suspension was weed?) No, we don't know that (at least I don't) but it's surely the most likely. And I don't really want to debate whether weed should be legal, I just want some help understanding why organisations like MLB and NFL care about it above and beyond what the law has to say. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Jun 17, 2014 6:52:22 GMT -5
It's irrelevant what drug it is. The fact is he had a chance at a professional career and at least partially threw that away or squandered it because of drug use. Maybe it's a problem he has, maybe he's just immature and can't prioritize. We really don't know and it doesn't really matter.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Jun 17, 2014 7:01:51 GMT -5
" ..... for it's one, two, three strikes you're out at the old ball gaaaaaaaaaame."
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Post by thebogeyman on Jun 17, 2014 7:47:49 GMT -5
I just want some help understanding why organisations like MLB and NFL care about it above and beyond what the law has to say. The law says that it is illegal, plain and simple. Sports organizations (and businesses in general) do not want to be in the business of legislating whether a drug is "bad enough" to be punishable because that is a slippery slope. It is much easier to say all illegal drugs are not allowed. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 17, 2014 7:49:39 GMT -5
Slippery slope arguments are a boogeyman.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 8:03:20 GMT -5
I just want some help understanding why organisations like MLB and NFL care about it above and beyond what the law has to say. The law says that it is illegal, plain and simple. Sports organizations (and businesses in general) do not want to be in the business of legislating whether a drug is "bad enough" to be punishable because that is a slippery slope. It is much easier to say all illegal drugs are not allowed. Yes, it is illegal. There are (federal/state) laws that prescribe a punishment. Why is that punishment not enough? Sports organizations don't want to be in the business of legislating drugs? Why are they doing it then? |
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 17, 2014 8:05:15 GMT -5
Ok, well in that sense why would other drugs like PEDs or heroin just follow the federal/state laws also?
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 17, 2014 8:11:35 GMT -5
PEDs are different because (at least in theory) they change the on-field balance. Players aren't suspended for using the drug itself, they're being suspended for cheating.
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