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Midseason Top 50 Prospect Lists
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Post by kman22 on Jul 7, 2014 19:59:38 GMT -5
Will be nice when we eventually trade for Josh Bell. And/or Joc Pederson. With Jansen struggling, I wonder what it would take beyond Koji. They could use Miller, actually, to give them a second LHR after Howell. Yes please. Miller and Uehara can call me for a ride to the airport. Nice to see potentially three top 15 prospects even after Bogaerts and JBJ graduated. The Cubs have three of the top 7 prospects, all left side of the infield. Sure they have nothing on the mound, but a major deal should be very easy for them to swing.
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Post by jmei on Jul 7, 2014 20:07:25 GMT -5
The Cubs could very well accommodate all their left-side guys. Bryant in RF, Baez at 3B, Russell at SS, Alcantara at 2B. That doesn't account for Castro, but all it takes is for one of those guys to suffer an injury or bust, and suddenly things aren't so crowded anymore.
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Post by kman22 on Jul 7, 2014 20:26:17 GMT -5
The Cubs could very well accommodate all their left-side guys. Bryant in RF, Baez at 3B, Russell at SS, Alcantara at 2B. That doesn't account for Castro, but all it takes is for one of those guys to suffer an injury or bust, and suddenly things aren't so crowded anymore. To clarify, I was envious, not saying they have an issue.
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Post by nexus on Jul 7, 2014 22:01:29 GMT -5
Braden Shipley 36 Clint Frazier 42 Austin Meadows 43 I am not connecting the dots here. Three random 1st rounders from '13 draft, one of whom was selected before the Red Sox pick.
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Post by zil on Jul 7, 2014 22:12:15 GMT -5
Braden Shipley 36 Clint Frazier 42 Austin Meadows 43 Frazier went before we picked so who cares? Ball seems to be getting on track and High School arms take a long time to develop. It's way too early to start moaning about the pick.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 7, 2014 22:15:54 GMT -5
Having two of ba's top 15 at the mid season mile post is very nice. And a compliment to the front office.
They are very high on Owens and I still can not figure out what kind of pitcher he will become.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 8, 2014 4:30:48 GMT -5
General consensus is that Taveras has no shot to stick in cf, based on what I've read. Again, only what I've read though. - Oscar Taveras fantasy owner (Also, from a moderating standpoint, discussing guys on these lists is groovy, but let's all just make sure we continue to stay away from the dark, shadowy place of making trade proposals) If Taveras and Piscotty are both RF, then one of them is definitely a piece they'd be willing to use to get pitching. So if we're going to dream big, let's add Taveras to the list of guys they could target, joining Pederson and Bell. Piscotty, as a RH bat, is less attractive relative to his talent, but it still on the list.
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Post by stevedillard on Jul 8, 2014 6:33:16 GMT -5
Braden Shipley 36 Clint Frazier 42 Austin Meadows 43 Frazier went before we picked so who cares? Ball seems to be getting on track and High School arms take a long time to develop. It's way too early to start moaning about the pick. Deep draft, with 2013 picks #2 ,3 ,4 ,5, 8, 9 and 15 all there
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Post by nexus on Jul 8, 2014 8:18:38 GMT -5
Frazier went before we picked so who cares? Ball seems to be getting on track and High School arms take a long time to develop. It's way too early to start moaning about the pick. Deep draft, with 2013 picks #2 ,3 ,4 ,5, 8, 9 and 15 all there If that was your point, you're still missing 12, 16, 22, and 36. Much of this list is projection/tools v. results. The '13 class represents the least amount of data among the group who is eligible. Naturally, you want to hold onto the belief that the scouting reports will eventually translate into results, but right now it's too early to state this class was deep.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 8, 2014 9:28:42 GMT -5
Baseball Propectus' Midseason top 50 list: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24076 (sub. required) Podcast discussing the Midseason Top 50: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2407922. Blake Swihart (#73 preseason; excerpt: "The previous gaze off into the horizon of a potential first-division regular is rapidly becoming a reality, which is driving this prospect’s sizable jump up the rankings.") 40. Henry Owens (#69 preseason; excerpt: "This isn’t a front-of-the-rotation arm, but one with the stuff and poise to be successful in a starter’s role over the long run.") Michael Chavis is mentioned as a 2014 draftee who would be in the mix for this winter's top 101. If Michael Chavis is in the mix, Devers has to be as well. Obviously will depend on how well (or poorly) the two hit the rest of the year.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 8, 2014 14:26:28 GMT -5
BA had an interesting article up earlier today scouting prospects beyond their top 50 Risers:Manuel Margot, of, Red Sox: Scouts watching Margot in the South Atlantic League expected to see an impressive array of tools, as Margot can run, has plenty of athleticism and power potential. But it’s his impressively mature set of skills (good reads in center field, improving approach at the plate) that stands out nearly as much. Margot gives away very few at-bats, rarely strikes out and uses the whole field. He’s a toolsy 19-year-old who is showing that he could be the rare four-tool prospect (his power potential is average at best) whose skills are as good or even better than his tools. Deven Marrero, ss, Red Sox: Marrero earns his reputation with his glove, which is spectacular, but he also has hit quite well this year. He goes the opposite way often, and put together a .287/.368/.429 line with Double-A Portland before getting bumped to Triple-A Pawtucket. Regardless, there are questions as to whether he’ll hit long term. He’s still probably a bottom-of-the-order hitter, but scouts are more convinced nowadays that he’ll hit enough to be a regular while providing plus defense at shortstop. Falling star:Trey Ball, lhp, Red Sox: The adjustment period for a high school pitcher making the jump to five-man rotations and full-season ball is often a difficult one. But Ball’s struggles are hard to excuse as just the normal hiccups of a pitcher learning a new routine. The seventh pick in last year’s draft has been way too hittable for low Class A Greenville. Opponents are hitting .346 against Ball this year. Lefties are batting .407/.456/.661 and Ball is striking out less than six hitters per nine innings. Ball’s delivery gives scouts some concerns, but it’s his lack of premium stuff that has been more worrisome. His fastball has backed up significantly. He’s showing a lack of arm speed and currently has no pitch that is even flashing plus. Sleeper:Carlos Asuaje, 2b, Red Sox: Asuaje is a utilityman even in low Class A. He’s already played second, third, shortstop and left field this year while the Red Sox move him around to ensure he gets regular at-bats. That’s useful training for Asuaje’s ceiling because he doesn’t really project as a regular at any one spot, but his projectable bat with surprising pop combined with a tick above-average speed makes him a potentially useful role player if he can continue to add to his versatility. Frank Montas was also in the 'risers' category. www.baseballamerica.com/minors/prospects-watch-beyond-top-50/
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 9, 2014 2:59:33 GMT -5
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Post by sammo420 on Jul 9, 2014 6:07:37 GMT -5
He was my preferred 1B target over Napoli this past off season, oh well.
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Post by zil on Jul 9, 2014 6:30:21 GMT -5
Napoli is doing fine this year and Cron never draws walks. Who exactly should we have traded to get Mr. .311 OBP?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 14, 2014 13:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by cologneredsox on Jul 15, 2014 5:00:39 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 15, 2014 6:10:12 GMT -5
Owens not Webster just missed.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 15, 2014 7:06:39 GMT -5
Owens not Webster just missed. And Mookie would have been third.
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Post by cologneredsox on Jul 15, 2014 7:09:17 GMT -5
Owens not Webster just missed. Whoops. I shouldn't be posting here while working, multitasking is just not my thing...
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 17, 2014 8:35:16 GMT -5
I don't have insider but Keith Law has posted his top 50.
Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp 11m Law's rankings mirror those of BA, BP in that Owens and Swihart are clearly the best two Red Sox prospects left in the minors.
Marc Normandin ?@marc_Normandin 11m @brianmacp As well as Betts having theoretically ranked higher than the rest on all three.
Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp 16m .@keithlaw on Boston's Blake Swihart: "He's their catcher of the future, perhaps as soon as this time next year.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jul 17, 2014 9:30:06 GMT -5
I think Mookie should be a top 5 guy. At least fangraphs got it right.
( assuming reports are true of where Mookie would have been if he were eligible ).
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Post by ctfisher on Jul 17, 2014 10:35:23 GMT -5
I don't have insider but Keith Law has posted his top 50. Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp 11m Law's rankings mirror those of BA, BP in that Owens and Swihart are clearly the best two Red Sox prospects left in the minors. Marc Normandin ?@marc_Normandin 11m @brianmacp As well as Betts having theoretically ranked higher than the rest on all three. Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp 16m .@keithlaw on Boston's Blake Swihart: "He's their catcher of the future, perhaps as soon as this time next year. Owens at 23, Swihart at 27. Owens: "Owens doesn't throw hard, mostly 90-92 but up to 94 whenever he needs it, succeeding with tremendous deception in his delivery and one of the minors' best changeups, which has made him more effective against right-handed hitters than lefties throughout his pro career. His breaking ball is soft but good enough to get some lefties out, although it could be a solid-average pitch for him if he tightens it up and gets more velocity on it. He doesn't have the high ceiling of the arms above him on this list. But if his fastball command improves, he'll be a #2 or very good #3 starter for the Sox." First time I've heard a professional evaluator say that he's got a good shot to be a #2
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 17, 2014 15:29:13 GMT -5
Maybe getting into semantics, but let's be careful: "could be if he does things he hasn't done yet" isn't "a good shot." Improving fastball command isn't a development gimme or anything.
Still probably the highest projection we've seen lately though.
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Post by jclmontana on Jul 17, 2014 16:26:52 GMT -5
Maybe getting into semantics, but let's be careful: "could be if he does things he hasn't done yet" isn't "a good shot." Improving fastball command isn't a development gimme or anything. Still probably the highest projection we've seen lately though. Perhaps this is also semantics, but Owens clearly has improved his command, it is a thing that he has done, or his standing in the industry would not have improved so much in the past year.
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Post by redsox1534 on Jul 17, 2014 16:39:00 GMT -5
Braden Shipley 36 Clint Frazier 42 Austin Meadows 43 Ya I saw that as well. Balls still very young and learning. To early to judge yet tho. I was a Clint Frazier supporter big time best player in draft for my money. Didnt want Meadows. Shipley was an option for me. WOuld of gone SHipley before Ball. I like Ball and support the pick but wasnt my first choice or 10th.
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