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Post by m1keyboots on Aug 9, 2015 23:52:25 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does he have a hitch in his swing, where he's always fouling balls off, or just ahead and grounding out. At least from the video I've seen...can't wait til salem where I can watch him live (btw Stravis really impressed me, even with what looked like average or slightly better speed and a great arm)
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 10, 2015 0:13:20 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does he have a hitch in his swing, where he's always fouling balls off, or just ahead and grounding out. At least from the video I've seen...can't wait til salem where I can watch him live (btw Stravis really impressed me, even with what looked like average or slightly better speed and a great arm) I am not huge on calling out guys for hitches like some are. Take Yaz for instance. He had that huge hitch, or holding the knob of the bat abobe his head, then bringing it down to get into swinging position as the pitch was about to be thrown, until he broke his hamate bone during the '72 season. Didn't stop him from hitting... Well you get the point.
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Post by m1keyboots on Aug 10, 2015 0:25:06 GMT -5
Is it just me, or does he have a hitch in his swing, where he's always fouling balls off, or just ahead and grounding out. At least from the video I've seen...can't wait til salem where I can watch him live (btw Stravis really impressed me, even with what looked like average or slightly better speed and a great arm) I am not huge on calling out guys for hitches like some are. Take Yaz for instance. He had that huge hitch, or holding the knob of the bat abobe his head, then bringing it down to get into swinging position as the pitch was about to be thrown, until he broke his hamate bone during the '72 season. Didn't stop him from hitting... Well you get the point. Yeah, and obviously we keep hearing about his quick hands and beautiful swing. Yaz, though, HOF. It's like, would you want to teach someone to swing at pitches like Vlad, bc he can barrel them up and send them to all fields? But I get your point
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Post by arzjake on Aug 10, 2015 17:37:54 GMT -5
19 years old in Single A OBPCT .330 .350 Encouraging signs. Ive seen him play 14 games. If there is a hitch, its no worse than Travis. Great young players. Keep are fingers crossed they develop as projected.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 2, 2016 11:07:44 GMT -5
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Post by larrycook on Mar 2, 2016 23:43:38 GMT -5
If he stays healthy, he could have a breakout year. The tools are there, but something always seems to keep him from putting it all together.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Mar 3, 2016 4:54:13 GMT -5
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Post by azblue on Mar 3, 2016 10:47:13 GMT -5
Watching that link, it would never have occurred to me that anyone would question the loft in his swing.
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Post by dnfl333 on May 7, 2016 21:13:29 GMT -5
Buried behind a 25 year old Marrero who cannot hit his weight.
I ask Sox Prospects, where is the Longhi love?
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Post by radiohix on May 7, 2016 21:43:01 GMT -5
Buried behind a 25 year old Marrero who cannot hit his weight. I ask Sox Prospects, where is the Longhi love? I'm a BIG Longhi fan but I'm cool with him being behind Marrero. The logic behind the ranking is simple: Marrero plays awesome defense at SS and is in AAA while Longhi is a 1st baseman who's not crushing A+ ball.
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 7, 2016 21:57:34 GMT -5
Buried behind a 25 year old Marrero who cannot hit his weight. I ask Sox Prospects, where is the Longhi love? If he drives the balls more often he would be ranked higher. Now his GB% is 56.4%.
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Post by cdj on May 8, 2016 10:12:09 GMT -5
Buried behind a 25 year old Marrero who cannot hit his weight. I ask Sox Prospects, where is the Longhi love? Marrero can probably come up and be close to a replacement level player with his glove alone right now, Longhi is putting together a "solid" year in A ball. The ceiling for Longhi is definitely higher unless Marrero start hitting out of nowhere, but the floor for Marrero is MUCH higher.
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Post by dnfl333 on May 8, 2016 10:46:21 GMT -5
Does anyone think the power will come with more development?
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Post by telson13 on May 8, 2016 11:33:35 GMT -5
Does anyone think the power will come with more development? Possibly. His in-game power isn't very good, but the raw power's there. Salem is a pretty tough HR park, and he's age-advanced. But he's probably a 15-20 HR guy if he develops, which isn't particularly good for 1b. He's got the arm for OF, but not much of a track there to MLB with the Sox. The team obviously likes his potential, though, because he signed for $400,000, which was late 3rd/4th round money at the time. Edit: oops, $440k looking at his profile page. He's a ways away, but there's definitely talent there.
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Post by radiohix on May 8, 2016 11:45:54 GMT -5
Does anyone think the power will come with more development? If development means adding loft to his swing like JimEd14 suggested, then yeah because when you're hitting more than 56% of your balls on the ground like he's doing, you won't hit for much power (See: Anderson, Lars)
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 8, 2016 14:34:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Longhi's got some solid power, solid swing, solid pitch recognition ... he's a solid hitting prospect. And it's well within the realm of possibility that he adds some in-game power, starts hitting some home runs as he gets a little older. He hit a pretty scorching line drive double the one game I saw him, although it was overshadowed a bit by Benintendi and Devers hitting two of the more impressive home runs I've seen from Red Sox prospects. I like his swing.
He's not someone I'm excited about at this point, but I think he's a real prospect. You have to dream on him a little bit to get him there, but you can look at him and see a future as a good major league hitter.
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Post by sox fan in nc on May 9, 2016 10:14:52 GMT -5
I've never seen him play. Reading everything in these posts, he sounds like a younger version of Sam Travis. Similar floors/ceilings? Won't hurt him that he can play a little OF.
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Post by jmei on May 9, 2016 10:56:32 GMT -5
I've never seen him play. Reading everything in these posts, he sounds like a younger version of Sam Travis. Similar floors/ceilings? Won't hurt him that he can play a little OF. Significantly lower floor-- Longhi doesn't have Travis' hit tool. Maybe a higher ceiling with the ability to play corner outfield, but overall a worse prospect than Travis because his hit tool is worse and he's farther away from the majors.
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 9, 2016 13:00:46 GMT -5
I don't think anything else really matters while he is hitting 60% grounders in Salem. Until he starts hitting the ball in the air he's a middling, pretty unintriguing guy.
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Post by dnfl333 on May 11, 2017 20:17:05 GMT -5
All this prospect does at age 21 in AA ball is consistently get on base. Slow start in Portland but since has turned it on.
Bat speed, plate coverage and discipline and ability to adjust from Lowell to now AA ball in 3 years is a very good sign of what is to come.
The player is a Top 10 prospect. Chatham has zero ML at bats while Johnson at age 26 is at best a mop up pitcher when rosters expand.
Give the player some love.
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Post by telson13 on May 11, 2017 23:18:24 GMT -5
All this prospect does at age 21 in AA ball is consistently get on base. Slow start in Portland but since has turned it on. Bat speed, plate coverage and discipline and ability to adjust from Lowell to now AA ball in 3 years is a very good sign of what is to come. The player is a Top 10 prospect. Chatham has zero ML at bats while Johnson at age 26 is at best a mop up pitcher when rosters expand. Give the player some love. I like that he's made AA by 21, but a .315 OBP and an isoD of .040 doesn't fit the "all he does is get on base" part of your argument. He's got a sub-.700 OPS, too, which reasonably concerns people because he's not supplementing the low OBP with power. He definitely needs to add some loft if he wants to move up, or find another way to add value offensively, because his defensive value is relatively limited.
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Post by jondrink on May 12, 2017 8:55:31 GMT -5
Need to check fielding stats Best defensive 1B in South Atlantic League 2015 @19 yrs Best Defensive 1B in Carolina League @ 20 yrs Baseball America vote I mean last year 856 touches 1 error that in my book is pretty good defensively. Lol 21 in AA is very young, power, loft will come not worried.
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Post by telson13 on May 12, 2017 10:20:10 GMT -5
Need to check fielding stats Best defensive 1B in South Atlantic League 2015 @19 yrs Best Defensive 1B in Carolina League @ 20 yrs Baseball America vote I mean last year 856 touches 1 error that in my book is pretty good defensively. Lol 21 in AA is very young, power, loft will come not worried. I didn't say he wasn't a good defender. He's a first baseman. His OF experience should help, but 1b/COF is the bottom end of the spectrum in terms of defensive value. Noticed what James Loney is up to these days? Longhi needs to hit, at least at league average, to be an MLB regular even if he's an outstanding defender. Travis Shaw was an above-average *third baseman* (substantially more valuable defensively than 1b) and was a roughly league average offensively during his time with the Sox (WRC+ a hair under 100), and he got shipped out (with prospects, including Dubon) for a now-injured reliever. Many here were happy to see him go. Longhi has some upside, but he's far from sure to reach it. His age advancement is nice, but he's still got a lot of work to do.
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Post by telson13 on May 12, 2017 10:29:38 GMT -5
Need to check fielding stats Best defensive 1B in South Atlantic League 2015 @19 yrs Best Defensive 1B in Carolina League @ 20 yrs Baseball America vote I mean last year 856 touches 1 error that in my book is pretty good defensively. Lol 21 in AA is very young, power, loft will come not worried. Also, FLD% and BA awards (which are voted on by polling managers etc) aren't great sources for a player's defensive ability. Ryan Lavarnway won best defensive catcher in the IL, for example. And a player who makes 5 errors on 1000 touches is better than a guy who makes 1 on 856, if they're seeing all the same plays, because the first guy got you 140 more outs. Nobody here is "knocking" Longhi. We all (barring any NY lurkers) want him to succeed. Who doesn't like the late-round success story? For my part, I'm just trying to be realistic about it.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 12, 2017 12:59:44 GMT -5
There's very little difference between, say 6 and 14 right know. Heck, Longhi was 9 in the season opening ranking. Worrying too much about 9 or 10 versus 11 is worrying disproportionately about a very narrow distinction, imo.
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