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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 19, 2015 18:14:05 GMT -5
Didn't Washington Nationals take the same risk as Boston would by taking Lucas Giolito who needed Tommy John surgery 2012 1rd 16 overall there next pick 80 2rd Tony Renda 2B. Now Giolito Rank 6 best prospect top 100 MLB. Tommy John surgery isn't a death sentence as it once was. With Fulmer and Tate gone before the Red Sox pick 7th I think Brady Aiken is a risk worth taking since the Red Sox farm system is ranked 2 in MLB. While I agree with... buttclown ... this is at least a fair response to the point I was making regarding risk aversion. Giolito was more highly regarded pre-TJ though - he had been viewed as a slam-dunk 1-1 before the TJ, iirc (I'm sure I'll be corrected if that's not the case), whereas Aiken was the 1-1 in a year without a certain top guy. Even healthy he was no sure bet to go 1-1 this year.
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Post by jdb on May 19, 2015 18:17:52 GMT -5
I believe Aikens UCL is smaller than normal and it would have more risk going forward.
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Post by myleskennefick on May 19, 2015 19:04:44 GMT -5
I like the idea of drafting Aiken if the medicals check out, but think the discussion on this board about his development would drive me nuts. I see how frequently he's been brought up in this thread and how much hang wringing there's been about Ball, and can't imagine what it would be like to follow Aiken's development on the board.
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Post by jrffam05 on May 19, 2015 19:30:32 GMT -5
Wasn't the Aiken hype that he was the most advanced hs pitcher most scouts ever seen?
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Post by James Dunne on May 19, 2015 21:20:10 GMT -5
You know, I still can't believe the Astros didn't draft Rodon. He was the consensus 1-1 ever since he was a Freshman, and he's already a good major leaguer.
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Post by scottysmalls on May 19, 2015 22:06:30 GMT -5
You know, I still can't believe the Astros didn't draft Rodon. He was the consensus 1-1 ever since he was a Freshman, and he's already a good major leaguer. I don't know about good major leaguer just yet. But clearly in retrospect I'm sure the Astros wish they would have taken him instead.
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Post by mjammz on May 20, 2015 12:21:01 GMT -5
This Aiken discussion is really getting tired.
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Post by ramireja on May 20, 2015 12:31:02 GMT -5
This Aiken discussion is really getting tired. Yeah but what IF his medicals look great?!?!?!
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Post by jimed14 on May 20, 2015 13:10:25 GMT -5
This Aiken discussion is really getting tired. Yeah but what IF his medicals look great?!?!?! We could trade him for Grady Sizemore if he's healthy.
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Post by soxfanatic on May 21, 2015 7:46:25 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on May 21, 2015 8:29:45 GMT -5
Has Benintendi to TB at pick 13 and another forum favorite Nikorak falling to the Yankees at pick 30. No Aiken or Matuella in the first 30 picks.
Add: Law mentioned Cameron as an option at pick 6 but noted rumor is he wants more than the money available at pick 6 slot. Would guess if drafted at 7 he would take the full slot and sign vs going to college. If not people would get their wish that want the team to punt the pick to next year.
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Post by ethanbein on May 21, 2015 8:56:58 GMT -5
Can someone more knowledgeable explain the appeal of Daz Cameron? From what I've read, he has no standout tool, more above average everywhere, which makes him more low upside, but yet he's still a risky high school kid. Seems like several teams are interested in him in the top 10 but passing on Fulmer for him seems a bit odd to me.
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 21, 2015 9:32:24 GMT -5
The only thing that I read at one point was that he has decent to average all around tools. Nothing sexy. Seems like a reach at 7. Plus I've also read that he isn't even top 25 pick worthy. We will see won't we
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Post by jrffam05 on May 21, 2015 9:32:52 GMT -5
Can someone more knowledgeable explain the appeal of Daz Cameron? From what I've read, he has no standout tool, more above average everywhere, which makes him more low upside, but yet he's still a risky high school kid. Seems like several teams are interested in him in the top 10 but passing on Fulmer for him seems a bit odd to me. I don't have more knowledge than you, but I agree the Cameron pick would seem underwhelming. By the same sense, what you're saying about Cameron is similar to what they said about Meadows 2 years ago. McDaniel sold me on Fulmer, especially in this class. Outside of Tate who won't drop to #7 I'd hope they'd take Fulmer if available. ADD: could I ask someone with an ESPN Insiders subscription where Fulmer went in Law's mock?
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 21, 2015 9:39:46 GMT -5
Can someone more knowledgeable explain the appeal of Daz Cameron? From what I've read, he has no standout tool, more above average everywhere, which makes him more low upside, but yet he's still a risky high school kid. Seems like several teams are interested in him in the top 10 but passing on Fulmer for him seems a bit odd to me. I don't have more knowledge than you, but I agree the Cameron pick would seem underwhelming. By the same sense, what you're saying about Cameron is similar to what they said about Meadows 2 years ago. McDaniel sold me on Fulmer, especially in this class. Outside of Tate who won't drop to #7 I'd hope they'd take Fulmer if available. ADD: could I ask someone with an ESPN Insiders subscription where Fulmer went in Law's mock? PLEASE! I'm super curious myself.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 21, 2015 9:45:45 GMT -5
Heads up on Fullmer. Vandy plays Texas A&m in the SEC Tourney at 4:30. SEC Network. Fullmer starting for the Commodores.
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Post by ethanbein on May 21, 2015 9:51:14 GMT -5
ADD: could I ask someone with an ESPN Insiders subscription where Fulmer went in Law's mock? He has him going 8th to the White Sox, saying his sources say he won't make it past there.
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Post by jdb on May 21, 2015 9:52:41 GMT -5
Fulmer went 8 in it. It looks like Law and Crawford have both mocked Cameron to us now.
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 21, 2015 9:58:12 GMT -5
If we are going HS OF..I'd much rather Tucker. Seems like his in game power potential seems more likely to be realized. Plus he is also fast. A nice power-speed combo guy. But Damn If Fulmer is there at 7 We better snag him haha. What is the infatuation with Cameron btw?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 21, 2015 10:01:42 GMT -5
PSA: Fulmer has one "L"
- The Clay Buchholtz Society for Spelling
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Post by mookiemagicfan on May 21, 2015 10:18:44 GMT -5
PSA: Fulmer has one "L" - The Clay Buchholtz Society for Spelling Glad I am ok there.
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Post by bentossaurus on May 21, 2015 10:40:49 GMT -5
PSA: Fulmer has one "L" - The Clay Buchhol tz Society for Spelling You are forgiven my child.
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Post by mjammz on May 21, 2015 10:47:48 GMT -5
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 21, 2015 10:49:29 GMT -5
It must be ordained. Missing L's. The Pats draft a kid in the first Malcom not Malcolm Brown. Missing an L. Sox will have to see that and draft a kid in the first who is missing an L too:)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 21, 2015 11:05:19 GMT -5
PSA: Fulmer has one "L" - The Clay Buchhol tz Society for Spelling You are forgiven my child.
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