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Post by jioh on Feb 1, 2013 8:42:01 GMT -5
I thought the writeup on Moran (who I should mention plays where I teach) was more positive. Might not stay at 3b, but he's the "college game's best pure hitter" and "The best position prospect in college baseball" with "a smooth lefthanded swing and ... a patient, up-the-middle approach" which could be great for Fenway. How much power he shows in his junior year will be important; halfway through his soph year he RyanSweeneyed a door and broke his hand. I do agree that it's easy to see him going a little later than 7, but if he steps up this year he could be a good pick. Bryant who has more power may not have as good a hit tool, and Wilson who has more athleticism might never hit. Moran on the Cape in 2012: 6 hrs, 18 bb, 32 k www.pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=318310[/quote]I could see that and didnt realize he put up better power numbers on the Cape. Im just extremely skeptical with BA's collage coverage to begin with. They are extremely slanted towards the ACC and UNC in particular due to their Durham headquarters. [/quote] Very very rough quick calc on Moran's Cape stats = 314/380ish/500ish, not including 1 for 5 in all-star game
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 1, 2013 18:06:04 GMT -5
I like Dominic Smith the 1B from California HS. He has pretty LH swing and a a tall slender frame to get stronger.
The draft is definitely looking like its getting stronger at least in my eyes guys are starting to rise and thats a good thing cause maybe we get Clint Frazier to drop. Jonathan Denney and Smith keeps rising so I'm getting excited that we'll get an elite talent at 7th.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 2, 2013 13:37:12 GMT -5
Baseball America posted their top 50 with little blurbs. Surprises to me: Jonathan Denney at 7th he's moving up fast may catch up to Frazier/Meadows by draft time. Seems like a Marlins draft pick because of their Oklahoma connections. Dominic Smith at 8th I already posted about him above. J.P. Crawford(SS) at 9th, I've generally seen him in the teens in other lists but from the vids I like the swing kind of looks like a young Jimmy Rollins. They also posted their top 50 per college class and the Sophomore class looks good up top and I've been doing research into the 2014 HS class and there is premium talent there too so you know, if the ship is starting to rock early just let it go. Top 50 Draft: www.baseballamerica.com/online/draft/early-draft-preview/2013/2614605.htmlTop 50 College: www.baseballamerica.com/online/college/season-preview/2013/2614610.html
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 2, 2013 19:21:52 GMT -5
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Post by lennsakata on Feb 2, 2013 22:40:16 GMT -5
Just curious as to what people think of Reese McGuire? Obviously there is a full season that will better determine his draft stock but I keep reading good defense behind the dish and a 1st round calibre bat (at least with this seemingly weaker draft). The strength of this draft appears to be a HS catchers but it seems like he's the cream of the crop...again, there will obviously be plenty of time for clarity in the coming months...mostly curious if people really like the bat that much? Despite believing Swihart is going to develop nicely I'm always up for adding good bats at premium defensive positions.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 2, 2013 22:46:28 GMT -5
I mostly have read the same thing (good defense, good bat) and generally like his swing but I think we can get a more premium talent at 7th, Jonathan Denney has been rising and has good defense behind the dish and an even stronger bat potentially.
I also kind of fear HS catchers as they don't have a strong track record of working out.
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Post by remember04 on Feb 3, 2013 4:51:27 GMT -5
Just curious as to what people think of Reese McGuire? Obviously there is a full season that will better determine his draft stock but I keep reading good defense behind the dish and a 1st round calibre bat (at least with this seemingly weaker draft). The strength of this draft appears to be a HS catchers but it seems like he's the cream of the crop...again, there will obviously be plenty of time for clarity in the coming months...mostly curious if people really like the bat that much? Despite believing Swihart is going to develop nicely I'm always up for adding good bats at premium defensive positions.The position the Rangers are in with Profar and Andrus doesn't exactly suck but I'd still be disapointed if we went that route.
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Post by jdb on Feb 3, 2013 14:23:20 GMT -5
Anyone formed an opinion on what position Trey Ball plays in the pros? I saw MLB.com previews gave him a Shawn Green comp at the plate but a power LHP might be too good to pass up.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 3, 2013 15:06:51 GMT -5
Anyone formed an opinion on what position Trey Ball plays in the pros? I saw MLB.com previews gave him a Shawn Green comp at the plate but a power LHP might be too good to pass up. He's a guy that I'm keeping an eye on because the Red Sox kind of have a thing for two-way players. He's really a two-way guy all the way and is projection on both side because of he's frame 6'6 190 you can dream on his power(Both in a pitching sense and hitting). I really don't have a strong opinion on which way he should go, I kind of like him more as a hitter but I think he'll probably go higher as a pitcher because lefties with strong stuff are rare. You probably have seen it but for those who haven't: Pitching: Hitting:
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 3, 2013 20:52:50 GMT -5
I just want the Red Sox to draft the best pitcher available. I'm not really inclinded to take a high upside bat. Sure hitting on that bat would be great, but I'd much rather stockpile arms and this is the highest they've picked and hpefully will pick for a while. This is the best chance to possible grab a future Ace. If it's not available, then you shouldn't draft a lower ceiling arm, just do get an arm, but all things being close to equal, give me the pitching.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 3, 2013 23:13:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't be targeting an specific area I would be targeting an elite talent and taking advantage of the opportunity to pick high. If we get one of the top pitchers(Manaea, Stanek) then fine but before I would consider another pitcher I would consider Frazier, Meadows or even Bryant.
Its all semantics at this point lets see how things develop.
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Post by bluechip on Feb 4, 2013 0:00:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't be targeting an specific area I would be targeting an elite talent and taking advantage of the opportunity to pick high. If we get one of the top pitchers(Manaea, Stanek) then fine but before I would consider another pitcher I would consider Frazier, Meadows or even Bryant. Its all semantics at this point lets see how things develop. That is how I think as well. Right now the college pitching in this draft looks strong, while the college hitting is weak, but a lot could change in the next couple of months.
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Post by jrffam05 on Feb 4, 2013 10:35:59 GMT -5
Just for context, where would some of these top names start day one on our rankings of top prospects?
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Post by borisman on Feb 4, 2013 16:45:29 GMT -5
Since we have such a high pick my guess would be around 4, depending on how the killer B's are performing. After that it all falls on the prospect after he is signed and plays at one of the affiliates. Let's hope he finishes the season second behind X-man.
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Post by texs31 on Feb 7, 2013 10:02:14 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 7, 2013 13:02:22 GMT -5
Some say he's a big talent others don't. In a follow up tweet someone asked Nathan Rode he's projection and he said 2-4 round.
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Post by ramireja on Feb 7, 2013 18:50:19 GMT -5
I like Dominic Smith the 1B from California HS. He has pretty LH swing and a a tall slender frame to get stronger. I've got a fascination with Smith too. I wouldn't mind the Sox picking up a guy who would be open to signing for say 500,000 below slot to ramp up the 2nd round pick or later. I wonder if someone targeted in the 10-15 range would do so.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 7, 2013 18:59:51 GMT -5
I've got a fascination with Smith too. I wouldn't mind the Sox picking up a guy who would be open to signing for say 500,000 below slot to ramp up the 2nd round pick or later. I wonder if someone targeted in the 10-15 range would do so. I wouldn't like passing up on talent just to save a few bucks to use later specially in a draft that is not that deep. At 7 is the chance for the Red Sox to finally get an elite talent I wouldn't gamble with that.
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Post by remember04 on Feb 7, 2013 19:32:00 GMT -5
For whatever reason the site has been quoting people without the last ] for maybe about a week now.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 8, 2013 15:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by flsoxman44 on Feb 8, 2013 16:01:09 GMT -5
I can't wait for this Draft..
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Post by remember04 on Feb 8, 2013 16:09:00 GMT -5
Now there's a way of thinking about things
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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 8, 2013 17:54:52 GMT -5
Good article by MacPherson. It describes a lot about what goes into the scouting routine. Hope the Sox have enough scouts to evaluate not only the top prospects, but the middle and late rounders as well.
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Post by remember04 on Feb 8, 2013 20:13:32 GMT -5
Good article by MacPherson. It describes a lot about what goes into the scouting routine. Hope the Sox have enough scouts to evaluate not only the top prospects, but the middle and late rounders as well. I think that's where we pick the local kids. The ones you don't have to travel to far to check out in person. I think a lot of the late round surprises occur when you check out a local team or are scouting another player and somebody else you didn't expect shows you something.
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Post by zman on Feb 9, 2013 0:51:58 GMT -5
Long-time reader, first-time poster...
Can someone please explain the widespread love for Clint Frazier? Bat speed is great and all, but since when does bat speed correlate to Major League success? Or his impressive 60 time for that matter?
The most important thing is his swing, especially looking at him as a possible top of the draft pick. He does some good things moving the barrel and squaring the ball up, but he has a lower half that needs a lot of work. Nearly all great hitters work into the ground, while Frazier comes straight up out of it. The minor leagues are littered with players like him that never learned to use their legs properly. Not saying it can't be done, but shouldn't a project be saved for later in the draft?
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