atzar
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Post by atzar on Aug 29, 2014 19:50:18 GMT -5
I was looking at Tony C's numbers yesterday. Damn you forget how good he was and he was 19 when he started. I like Mookies swing the best of all the kids. Of them all he is the one I really want them to keep. When Xander is right I still like his swing better than any of our young guys. Really like Mookie too though. Hope they find an everyday spot for him on this team.
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 29, 2014 19:52:04 GMT -5
Ranaudos Breaking ball is ridiculous tonight! Isn't it great to pitch with a 7 run lead?
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Post by terriblehondo on Aug 29, 2014 19:56:44 GMT -5
I was looking at Tony C's numbers yesterday. Damn you forget how good he was and he was 19 when he started. I like Mookies swing the best of all the kids. Of them all he is the one I really want them to keep. I still get sad at what might have been for Tony C. I was listening on the radio the night he got hit. I swear to this day it sounded like the crack of the bat. Still makes me sick. Then to top it off right after he gets the announcer job with the Sox he has the heart attack. I was so happy he got that job. Talk about star crossed. He kept getting the rug pulled out from under him.
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Post by terriblehondo on Aug 29, 2014 20:03:18 GMT -5
I was looking at Tony C's numbers yesterday. Damn you forget how good he was and he was 19 when he started. I like Mookies swing the best of all the kids. Of them all he is the one I really want them to keep. When Xander is right I still like his swing better than any of our young guys. Really like Mookie too though. Hope they find an everyday spot for him on this team. It is longer than Mookies and shorter should mean less holes. That being said X should have more power. Time will tell. I do wish Mookie was a bit larger physically but I think it will play.
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Post by widewordofsport on Aug 29, 2014 20:05:01 GMT -5
The FB isn't good enough, but I see Ranaudo, a big guy with a good curve, and see a guy like Beckett, who could add in a pitch each time through the lineup. I'm guessing that's what the FO saw when they drafted him. I've always liked him better than Barnes b/c I thought his FB was better than Barnes' curve, but it'll be interesting to see what he ends up as.
As for Betts, I think he's hitting his way right out of Boston. Can't imagine them keeping and stashing him after he builds that value (though I wish they would).
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 29, 2014 20:07:53 GMT -5
Great catch Mookie!
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Post by larrycook on Aug 29, 2014 20:21:43 GMT -5
Ranaudo giving up a two run tater.
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 29, 2014 20:31:44 GMT -5
Let's get someone up in the bullpen. Raunados had runners on base the past 3 innings. Don't just leave him in their for the hell of it
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radiohix
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Post by radiohix on Aug 29, 2014 20:39:16 GMT -5
No very impressed by what I've seen so far from Ranaudo: nibbling, so-so velocity, average secondary stuff, line drives and flyballs... I'll take Webster over him.
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 29, 2014 20:41:16 GMT -5
Nava 3-3 tonight! He is having a hell of a game and a 2nd half! Don't trade Nava.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 29, 2014 20:49:26 GMT -5
Nava 3-3 tonight! He is having a hell of a game and a 2nd half! Don't trade Nava. His only real value is as a platoon player and with Gomes out of the picture, we have no reason to keep him.
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Post by larrycook on Aug 29, 2014 20:50:27 GMT -5
Ranaudo up to 99 pitches.
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Post by nationinthesouth on Aug 29, 2014 20:56:28 GMT -5
Nava 3-3 tonight! He is having a hell of a game and a 2nd half! Don't trade Nava. I was just thinking how good his numbers look based on the start he had. I would actually love to see him traded so that he had a chance to be at least a regular fourth outfielder in another org. He has Oakland A written all over him.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 29, 2014 21:20:38 GMT -5
Please don't trade Mookie or the two catchers. Try Mookie on the left side, or hold him at AAA next year and see what happens. The Sox sent Holt down at the beginning of the year because they didn't think the D was good enough at SS. His SS D is better than Xander. Mookie has shown a decent arm in the out field. I'd at least like to see him fail at 3b or SS before they move him. Who you talking to? None of us have much to say about it, and honestly I doubt he's going anywhere. He's 21 years old and plays like he's 27. Tell me again why they should trade him for a $30 million/yr contract?
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 29, 2014 21:27:18 GMT -5
Please don't trade Mookie or the two catchers. Try Mookie on the left side, or hold him at AAA next year and see what happens. The Sox sent Holt down at the beginning of the year because they didn't think the D was good enough at SS. His SS D is better than Xander. Mookie has shown a decent arm in the out field. I'd at least like to see him fail at 3b or SS before they move him. Who you talking to? None of us have much to say about it, and honestly I doubt he's going anywhere. He's 21 years old and plays like he's 27. Tell me again why they should trade him for a $30 million/yr contract? I agree 100 percent Norm, Especially with the way Mookie has been contributing offensively/Defensively. Mookie has made some outstanding catches in his short time in CF.
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 29, 2014 21:33:43 GMT -5
Please don't trade Mookie or the two catchers. Try Mookie on the left side, or hold him at AAA next year and see what happens. The Sox sent Holt down at the beginning of the year because they didn't think the D was good enough at SS. His SS D is better than Xander. Mookie has shown a decent arm in the out field. I'd at least like to see him fail at 3b or SS before they move him.[/quote ]Who you talking to? None of us have much to say about it, and honestly I doubt he's going anywhere. He's 21 years old and plays like he's 27. Tell me again why they should trade him for a $30 million/yr contract? Mostly talking to sox management. As for here ,amfox and a few other regular posters , I don't remember the posting names, said he was gone.
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Post by redsox4242 on Aug 29, 2014 21:46:09 GMT -5
SOX WIN!
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Post by larrycook on Aug 29, 2014 21:52:12 GMT -5
Did we win or did Tampa beat themselves?
I think. Tampa errored their way to a well earned defeat.
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 30, 2014 5:31:11 GMT -5
I was looking at Tony C's numbers yesterday. Damn you forget how good he was and he was 19 when he started. I like Mookies swing the best of all the kids. Of them all he is the one I really want them to keep. Tony C. had a great rookie year....24 hrs. and hit .290. I am not certain that he (few others) could have done that in today's baseball world. I never saw him play but Harry Agganis was another star-crossed Sox player from yesteryear.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 30, 2014 5:51:55 GMT -5
I was looking at Tony C's numbers yesterday. Damn you forget how good he was and he was 19 when he started. I like Mookies swing the best of all the kids. Of them all he is the one I really want them to keep. Tony C. had a great rookie year....24 hrs. and hit .290. I am not certain that he (few others) could have done that in today's baseball world. I never saw him play but Harry Agganis was another star-crossed Sox player from yesteryear. He didn't have a serious injury like Tony C. But, a back problem kept him from becoming a good player. I always thought Tim Naehring was going to be a very good player.
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 30, 2014 6:04:41 GMT -5
Tony C. had a great rookie year....24 hrs. and hit .290. I am not certain that he (few others) could have done that in today's baseball world. I never saw him play but Harry Agganis was another star-crossed Sox player from yesteryear. He didn't have a serious injury like Tony C. But, a back problem kept him from becoming a good player. I always thought Tim Naehring was going to be a very good player. Well Agganis died from a pulmonary embolism following a prolonged bout with pneumonia at age 25. As my dad told the story, he was hospitalized for a week or so, came back to play too soon and relapsed. In the course of treatment the embolism formed and killed him. He was a sort of Tony C. too in that, known as the Golden Greek, he was a media and bobby-soxer darling. As for Ranaudo, he does not yet impress me as a go-to guy....more like a back-end starter....In fact all the guys we have brought up so far (not finished products I know) appear in that mode save perhaps RDLR. In contrast, I really like what I have seen from Greene of the Yankees who came out of nowhere. Our rotation is a bit behind the days of Pedro, Shilling, Lester etc. not to mention our batting order.
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Post by danr on Aug 30, 2014 11:06:55 GMT -5
I think I saw Tony C's last HR in 1975 in Baltimore. He had been out of baseball for three years when the Sox brought him back. He hit .123 with two HRs. I was in the press box in Baltimore when he hit one, and I think it was his last one. He was released by the Sox late in the season, his career over at the age of 30.
He played only five full seasons 64-66 and 69-70. He was hit with that pitch in 67 and missed all of 68. In 1970 he hit 36 HRs for the Sox, the most of any season, and had a slash line of .266/.324/,498. The Sox then traded him to the Angels after the season. The next year, 1971, he only played in 74 games with the Angels, and hit only 4 HRs and batted .222. As I recall there was quite a bit of controversy over the trade and his subsequent performance.
His career: 876 games, 3,590 ABs, 166 HRs, .265/.327/.476/.803
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Post by terriblehondo on Aug 30, 2014 11:57:03 GMT -5
I was looking at Tony C's numbers yesterday. Damn you forget how good he was and he was 19 when he started. I like Mookies swing the best of all the kids. Of them all he is the one I really want them to keep. Tony C. had a great rookie year....24 hrs. and hit .290. I am not certain that he (few others) could have done that in today's baseball world. I never saw him play but Harry Agganis was another star-crossed Sox player from yesteryear. 19 yr 24hrs in 111 games arm broken by pitch 20 yr 32hrs lead the league in homers 138 games wrist broken by pitch 21 yr 28hrs in 150 games 22 yr 20hrs in 95 games hit in eye by pitch and ruined his career. All that before the mound was lowered because of pitching dominance. I have no doubt that he would have been a star today.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 30, 2014 12:01:02 GMT -5
Nava 3-3 tonight! He is having a hell of a game and a 2nd half! Don't trade Nava. His only real value is as a platoon player and with Gomes out of the picture, we have no reason to keep him. Sure because there's no other right-handed bats on the team that he could compliment.
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Post by ethanbein on Aug 30, 2014 12:15:04 GMT -5
Against right handed pitchers, none of our outfielders has a higher career wRC+ (124) than Daniel Nava. Even with the logjam, he's still probably our best outfielder 2/3 of the time, especially with what looks like improved defense.
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