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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 1, 2014 10:56:04 GMT -5
Aaron Rodgers is simply amazing. I think a few guys are better than him because of the career they built and, uhm, "intangibles" and stuff. Brady and Montana are the gold standard of the position, all things considered.
But if you look only into tools and performance, he's better than Manning, Brees and Marino. If I had to choose a guy to win a title, I'd still pick Brady. However, if you ask me who's the best QB in the game, you have to be a homer not to say Rodgers.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 1, 2014 17:20:46 GMT -5
I'm not just talking about the bottom-line yesterday. What the defense did was like giving up a ton of baserunners but only allowing four runs. Sure, that's "good enough to win," but it's a performance that makes you think worse about the defense today than you did Saturday. I still think they're a well above-average defense, but you saw the flaws out there (pass rush, coverage beyond the top two options, speed at linebacker). PS: the main reason they were on the field so long was because they were unable to get a third-down stop outside of the red zone. That's on the defense. This isn't entirely true. Obviously it's not all one versus the other but, Rogers made some great plays that you just have to tip your cap to and the offense not going anywhere the first couple drives was death on the defense. They were gassed. The offense needs to at least provide a breather. Not McDaniels finest day. |
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 1, 2014 21:13:37 GMT -5
The J-E-S-T are absolutely gashing the Fins on the ground. I hope McDaniels is taking notes.
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 4, 2014 12:44:23 GMT -5
Dobson to IR. Wonder whether we will pick up another receiver off waivers or the street, we're not exactly loaded with depth there.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 4, 2014 12:57:21 GMT -5
Dobson to IR. Wonder whether we will pick up another receiver off waivers or the street, we're not exactly loaded with depth there. What a bust. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 4, 2014 13:25:13 GMT -5
Belichick's inability to draft wideouts is astounding.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 5, 2014 11:12:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure if the numbers actually support this but what amazes me about BB drafts is that it SEEMS as though that 2nd year jump is where the big failure occurs. Even some of the questionable picks show signs that maybe we were wrong. But then the 2nd year comes (and BB continues to promote that as the year these players make the leap) and they end up such a disappointment.
Jermaine Cunningham, Tavon Wilson, Duron Harmon, Marcus Cannon, Darius Butler, Dobson, Boyce? Even Chung left and came back and is now contributing. They all showed various levels of promise their first year only to greatly underwhelm the next.
I'm thinking this plays similarly beyond my list. WR may be different and could easily be tied to poor drafting but I wonder if it's the year 1 to year 2 development that is really lacking.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 5, 2014 14:32:13 GMT -5
Drafts go through hot and cold streaks and it's easy to list "failures" and think they've drafted poorly, but you'd have to go back and compare to other teams as well to really have an idea.
Forget the rounds they were taken in. Here is what they have gotten from recent drafts. It's better to look at what you got rather than who failed.
2014 - way too early
Stork (baring injury a great get)
Easily (next year will tell but shown improvement and promise)
Fleming (been a great 6th olineman)
Moore (getting reps with 95 being hurt but could have a Collins type jump - not a player they usually go for has potential as an edge rusher)
White (juries out)
And of course Jimmy G the future ha
2013:
Collins
Ryan
Harmon
Collins looks like the only true starter but he looks like a difference maker and Ryan and Harmon are solid roster players.
Then Dobson, Buchanan and Boyce are all still potential players. Have good athletic skills. I still have faith in Dobson and especially Boyce.
2012 :
Jones
Hightower
Dennard
Wilson
Ebner
2011:
Solder
Ridley
Vereen
Mallet (not needed but saved $$ filling backup qb role)
Cannon (has struggled a lot this year but gave solid production and depth)
2010:
McCourty
Gronk
Spikes
Hernandez
Mesko
2009:
Edelman
Volmer
Chung
2008:
Mayo
Slater
The drafts from 2006-2008/9 were bad drafts. The 2010 and on drafts are solid to very good considering where they pick each year. The 2006-9 drafts are the biggest reason why the defense was so blah from 2008-2013. Sure Revis and Browner are the biggest changes but there is a young core that is the foundation.
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 6, 2014 11:16:55 GMT -5
Chandler Jones was available to the media this week and Mike Reiss predicts he'll be active against the Chargers. Should be able to get past the tackles easily enough but then Rivers is a beast to bring down...
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 6, 2014 14:33:56 GMT -5
Chandler Jones was available to the media this week and Mike Reiss predicts he'll be active against the Chargers. Should be able to get past the tackles easily enough but then Rivers is a beast to bring down... That'd be great if he were ready to play and it will be good if BB gets his snaps down to about 70% with ayers mostly filling in the other times... Will be good to get a rotation down that will Improve the pass rush |
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Post by jmei on Dec 7, 2014 20:52:48 GMT -5
2nd and goal from the one, getting chunk yards on the ground, and two pass attempts? Frustrating.
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Post by jmei on Dec 7, 2014 22:03:17 GMT -5
Just an awful, awful throw by Brady. Flat-footed, to a well-covered receiver, in field-goal range. Can't give away points like that.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 7, 2014 22:56:45 GMT -5
McDaniels blows... Time and time again his game plans suck yet everyone talks about him like he's awesome. He sucks... This is such a typical game of his. Nice play calling
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 7, 2014 22:59:27 GMT -5
Oh yea and was a bull crap penalty on that int return. That was not helmet to helmet such crap and if that's a penalty because of defenseless receiver they didn't call that and the NFL sucks
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Post by jmei on Dec 7, 2014 23:38:58 GMT -5
The defense won this one. The offensive line got dominated, but the coverage was elite and the front seven got a good amount of pressure from their A-gap blitz look and good individual efforts from the interior DLs.
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 8, 2014 0:28:17 GMT -5
Very sloppy game by both sides until the Pats pulled it together in the 4th quarter.
I can totally understand leaving Jonas Gray on the bench when Blount is ripping off 6+ yards per carry, but I really wonder why he didn't get some more carries in this game.
One thing that stood out to me was how consistent Brian Tyms was at getting upfield as a punt gunner. (Now we know why Don Jones was expendable.) If he can keep that up and never has a personal foul penalty for running his mouth again, I see him on the roster again next year.
Also, good to see Tavon Wilson getting consistent defensive snaps. Still drafted too high but at least he's not a total bust.
Too bad Bolden is only 5'11", he probably would have made a better defensive end than a running back.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 8, 2014 7:21:18 GMT -5
Hard to argue with Blount's effectiveness but he is NOT a short yardage back. He's big, but runs high and takes too long to accelerate. I can understand why they like him better overall than Gray, but not in those situations. I think they are very similar but are different enough to complement each other well if utilized properly. I'd like to see more Jonas near the goal line and on third and short situations.
Brady running for two first downs was great to see. The first one where he dove through the defenders was phenomenal, so many QBs would have slid and come up short. If he adds that to his game it will be a nice "weapon". And no I'm not talking about him running a lot, just in those situations. Before last night, you'd see him try and force a throw when the defense backs way off like that and the pocket opens up for him. I hope he remembers this and takes advantage.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 8, 2014 7:30:04 GMT -5
Also, time to go back and give more credit to those midseason trades for Ayers and Cassilas. Maybe they aren't "impact" players but they are legitimately good roster players in this system. Where would this defense be without them adding real depth with Jones and Hightower out.
I'm really hoping Ayers sees the situation he's in here and what BB has done for him and resigns here. Looking longer term, Ayers is young and very gifted (hence the draft stock) and he is still coming back from his knee injuries. All this means, I believe there is more untapped upside with him that's worth investing in. By investing I don't mean heavily just giving some years and mostly guaranteeing said lower money. He fits perfectly as an edge player who can both rush the passer/set the edge in the run game or drop into coverage. This team NEEDS. A rotation. Jones and Nink cannot play 90+% of the snaps. It's unhealthy and ineffective. He complements them well and could be an eventual Nink replacement.
Great pick up for basically nothing. Certainly got lucky but that's what happens to guys like BB. Often times you make your own luck.
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Post by jmei on Dec 8, 2014 9:02:28 GMT -5
Hard to argue with Blount's effectiveness but he is NOT a short yardage back. He's big, but runs high and takes too long to accelerate. I can understand why they like him better overall than Gray, but not in those situations. I think they are very similar but are different enough to complement each other well if utilized properly. I'd like to see more Jonas near the goal line and on third and short situations. Agree with this. Blount is big, but he runs like a scatback, relying more on his quickness and feet than Gray, who you know is going to hit the hole hard and fast. Blount is a more creative runner who will occasionally get you yards that aren't there, but he also gets taken down near the line of scrimmage a lot. |
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 10, 2014 14:16:16 GMT -5
Just in case anyone thought our owner is any better than the other owners...
Ian Rapoport @rapsheet
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27m 27 minutes ago
Kraft on why Goodell has appeals oversight: “We gave that a lot of thought. That’s 1 person who understands the best interests of the game.”
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 11, 2014 21:02:49 GMT -5
Just in case anyone thought our owner is any better than the other owners... Ian Rapoport @rapsheet · 27m 27 minutes ago Kraft on why Goodell has appeals oversight: “We gave that a lot of thought. That’s 1 person who understands the best interests of the game.” For what it's worth, how would you have had him respond? Throw the sitting commissioner under the bus? |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 11, 2014 21:07:21 GMT -5
Cannon 2/9m extension... Seems rich for a backup when Flemming has shown promise. Cannon is not a guard. I'm prediction Solder needs to restructure/ extend or may be a cut candidate. 7m cap hit is big for him they way he's played. He costs almost nothing vs cap if cut or traded.
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 11, 2014 21:39:11 GMT -5
Cannon 2/9m extension... Seems rich for a backup when Flemming has shown promise. Cannon is not a guard. I'm prediction Solder needs to restructure/ extend or may be a cut candidate. 7m cap hit is big for him they way he's played. He costs almost nothing vs cap if cut or traded. Fleming has done good work as a 6th OL but has not had any serious reps at tackle. Good tackles cost money and if one of them goes down and you only have two, then you are screwed (see: half the league this year). $4.5m for a good swing tackle is a solid investment. |
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Post by jmei on Dec 11, 2014 21:53:11 GMT -5
Fleming looks terrific as a run-blocker, but I'm not sure he has the athleticism to succeed in pass protection. Cannon is not great, but even average swing tackles are valuable. It's more than I would have offered, but I don't hate it.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 12, 2014 7:30:20 GMT -5
If Solder gets cut, would you put Cannon there or move Vollmer to LT with Cannon on the right?
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