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Post by telson13 on Oct 4, 2016 1:00:45 GMT -5
... I've looked at and analyzed a lot of pitch-fx data at the raw level, and in my experience there are more guys who throw both a 4-seamer and 2-seamer than guys who throw only one. You don't have to look further than Porcello to find a guy who makes devastating use of the distinction between them. ... That has been the big change over the last two years. I've been very impressed with the makeover. He labored through 2015, getting the location for the high fastball fine-tuned. This season, he figured out exactly where to throw it to make it too tempting to resist, and just a little too high to hit solidly, with a lot of swings and misses. No surprise that the last two years have seen his K/9 jump up over 7.5 which, for a pitcher who has relied primarily on a sinker, makes him devastating as you say. Just a great year for the guy, the control, the way he eats innings, the dominance he can achieve when he's locked in... He may not be an ace, whatever that is, but he's really been exceptional, a great pleasure to watch pitch. Funny, I think of Porcello in exactly the same way. He's become the prototypical 1a, very similar to Lester (who seems just a hair closer to a true 1 these days). Not an "ace," but a perfectly reasonable substitute most of the time. Now if Price sorts it out next year, and ERod takes the leap I think he will, that's going to be a ridiculous rotation. And really, maybe Porcello has that step left in him to become truly dominant. Whatever the case, a legitimate ace, a true 1a, and a young 1a/2 looks to be a pretty outstanding top-3. I like their playoff chances for the same reasons. Throw Wright and Pomeranz in that mix, and an unpredictably resurgent Buchholz? Wow.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 4, 2016 10:26:27 GMT -5
That has been the big change over the last two years. I've been very impressed with the makeover. He labored through 2015, getting the location for the high fastball fine-tuned. This season, he figured out exactly where to throw it to make it too tempting to resist, and just a little too high to hit solidly, with a lot of swings and misses. No surprise that the last two years have seen his K/9 jump up over 7.5 which, for a pitcher who has relied primarily on a sinker, makes him devastating as you say. Just a great year for the guy, the control, the way he eats innings, the dominance he can achieve when he's locked in... He may not be an ace, whatever that is, but he's really been exceptional, a great pleasure to watch pitch. Funny, I think of Porcello in exactly the same way. He's become the prototypical 1a, very similar to Lester (who seems just a hair closer to a true 1 these days). Not an "ace," but a perfectly reasonable substitute most of the time. Now if Price sorts it out next year, and ERod takes the leap I think he will, that's going to be a ridiculous rotation. And really, maybe Porcello has that step left in him to become truly dominant. Whatever the case, a legitimate ace, a true 1a, and a young 1a/2 looks to be a pretty outstanding top-3. I like their playoff chances for the same reasons. Throw Wright and Pomeranz in that mix, and an unpredictably resurgent Buchholz? Wow. Those who feel that DDo will trade a SP to fill a team need are overlooking the fact that there's no team need that big. I'm not sure there's a team with 6 starters and 7 position players as good as ours. The bullpen needs a piece or two, but you're not trading a SP to get them. The non-elite position players are the corner infielders, and you have OK in-house candidates in Sandoval, Shaw, and Holt and much more importantly, the best prospect in baseball less than a year away and another top 20-prospect a year behind him, a solid prospect less than a year away in Travis, plus your 11, 13, 14, and 15 prospects further off, from whom you may well get another player. You look to be one of the two best teams in MLB even with the ordinary 1B / 3B situation, so there's no need to put together, say, a Devers plus others for Freddie Freeman trade in order to get into contention or move from being just another contender to a favorite. Sox history has some trades that were bad when measured by WAR, but that no one regrets because they filled a short-term need beautifully. Mike Boddicker, Josh Beckett to begin with. The Sox are in a position to not have to make one of those trades. This is a lot of what Theo meant when he said "avoid the temptation to build an uber-team." We were a 98 to 105 win team this year against a neutral schedule. I believe that the carryover of the second-half/Bannister pitching boost is likely to be a wash against the decline from replacing Ortiz with Sandoval. Adding 3 or 4 wins by trading for Freeman is not going to measurably improve your odds of winning the WS, but would harm you in the long run. I need to work on more important stuff all winter. Looks like I picked the right time to give up following the Sox too closely.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 4, 2016 12:17:32 GMT -5
I think the sox will work out a deal with Chicago for Quintana this offseason. I actually believe Eddy Rodriguez will be a better pitcher, maybe as soon as next season. I'm really going to be pissed if they try to upgrade the rotation this winter. There is no need to throw away more prospects to upgrade a rotation of Price, Porcello, Wright, Erod, Pomeranz and Buchholz (with one of those as swing man).
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 4, 2016 12:19:37 GMT -5
... I've looked at and analyzed a lot of pitch-fx data at the raw level, and in my experience there are more guys who throw both a 4-seamer and 2-seamer than guys who throw only one. You don't have to look further than Porcello to find a guy who makes devastating use of the distinction between them. ... That has been the big change over the last two years. I've been very impressed with the makeover. He labored through 2015, getting the location for the high fastball fine-tuned. This season, he figured out exactly where to throw it to make it too tempting to resist, and just a little too high to hit solidly, with a lot of swings and misses. No surprise that the last two years have seen his K/9 jump up over 7.5 which, for a pitcher who has relied primarily on a sinker, makes him devastating as you say. Just a great year for the guy, the control, the way he eats innings, the dominance he can achieve when he's locked in... He may not be an ace, whatever that is, but he's really been exceptional, a great pleasure to watch pitch. If this is who Porcello is, he's as good as Lester was with us.
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Post by telson13 on Oct 4, 2016 22:34:00 GMT -5
Funny, I think of Porcello in exactly the same way. He's become the prototypical 1a, very similar to Lester (who seems just a hair closer to a true 1 these days). Not an "ace," but a perfectly reasonable substitute most of the time. Now if Price sorts it out next year, and ERod takes the leap I think he will, that's going to be a ridiculous rotation. And really, maybe Porcello has that step left in him to become truly dominant. Whatever the case, a legitimate ace, a true 1a, and a young 1a/2 looks to be a pretty outstanding top-3. I like their playoff chances for the same reasons. Throw Wright and Pomeranz in that mix, and an unpredictably resurgent Buchholz? Wow. Those who feel that DDo will trade a SP to fill a team need are overlooking the fact that there's no team need that big. I'm not sure there's a team with 6 starters and 7 position players as good as ours. The bullpen needs a piece or two, but you're not trading a SP to get them. The non-elite position players are the corner infielders, and you have OK in-house candidates in Sandoval, Shaw, and Holt and much more importantly, the best prospect in baseball less than a year away and another top 20-prospect a year behind him, a solid prospect less than a year away in Travis, plus your 11, 13, 14, and 15 prospects further off, from whom you may well get another player. You look to be one of the two best teams in MLB even with the ordinary 1B / 3B situation, so there's no need to put together, say, a Devers plus others for Freddie Freeman trade in order to get into contention or move from being just another contender to a favorite. Sox history has some trades that were bad when measured by WAR, but that no one regrets because they filled a short-term need beautifully. Mike Boddicker, Josh Beckett to begin with. The Sox are in a position to not have to make one of those trades. This is a lot of what Theo meant when he said "avoid the temptation to build an uber-team." We were a 98 to 105 win team this year against a neutral schedule. I believe that the carryover of the second-half/Bannister pitching boost is likely to be a wash against the decline from replacing Ortiz with Sandoval. Adding 3 or 4 wins by trading for Freeman is not going to measurably improve your odds of winning the WS, but would harm you in the long run. I need to work on more important stuff all winter. Looks like I picked the right time to give up following the Sox too closely. You and I nearly always agree on the perception of "need." For one, the Sox (as noted in the above article) were a third-order 103-win team this year. They're basically last year's Cubs. As big of a hit as losing Ortiz is to the offense, it's reasonable to think that the addition of a full year of Benintendi in LF will replace a fair portion of that "excess" offense (maybe a third, or half?), particularly if combined with a healthy Young. There's also the clear benefit defensively, which adds maybe a half to a full win. Secondly, the 4-5 starters for the first half+ of the year were historically bad. It's also reasonable to think that Rodriguez and Pomeranz will be substantially better in the first half (1-2 wins each) than what the Sox got this season. Wright may come back to earth a bit, but with Buchholz around, I don't see them losing more than maybe a win or two (at the extreme) from the 3 spot. They've got Kelly pitching very well out of the bullpen, and Barnes with a year more development. Hembree and Ross, too. Kimbrel and Price both had significantly off years results-wise, although not awful. Smith comes back mid-year. Shaw is serviceable at third, and Sandoval may be an option there or at DH. There's no real likely drop-off in offense or defense in the infield, just DH production. Even if Ortiz alone is responsible for contributing 50-60 additional runs over whoever becomes the DH, it's tough to imagine that they can't get half of those back with Benintendi in LF and continued development of all of their young players (although Leon's breakout probably artificially inflated the C line). Conversely, I can easily see their staff giving up 50-60 fewer runs next year. With some mild improvement in luck (24-20 in one run games versus 20-24), they're a 100-win+ team, easily, especially if Toronto loses two big bats and the O's and Yankees are a little worse, as might be expected. There is absolutely no *need* for a big DH bat. Unless they can get a steal on someone like Bautista who might take a pillow contract Beltre-style (unlikely but possible at his age), it's not worth the draft pick. Maybe a bullpen arm and re-sign Koji, and possibly Tazawa, depending on cost. They have no "needs," just some wants. They can bide their time and 1) see if Moncada is ready (making for a boost in offense and Shaw a potential trade chip), 2) see if Owens or Johnson can step up (making Buchholz or Pomeranz a trade chip), and 3) see if Kelly or Barnes breaks out, potentially making Kimbrel a trade chip. There's also the slim outside chance that Travis takes a big step forward, or Kopech does. Right now, their depth is a huge strength. It's arguable that their only "need" is to maintain it.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 5, 2016 0:26:13 GMT -5
If the Sox bring back Buchholz, Koji and Tazawa and let Abad and Zeigler walk, I could see them trading a Doubon caliber prospect for a pen lefty. Otherwise they look set to me.
Relative to team composition, the emergence of Hernandez as a viable backup utility infielder gives them a lot of flexibility.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 5, 2016 2:56:11 GMT -5
Those who feel that DDo will trade a SP to fill a team need are overlooking the fact that there's no team need that big. I'm not sure there's a team with 6 starters and 7 position players as good as ours. The bullpen needs a piece or two, but you're not trading a SP to get them. The non-elite position players are the corner infielders, and you have OK in-house candidates in Sandoval, Shaw, and Holt and much more importantly, the best prospect in baseball less than a year away and another top 20-prospect a year behind him, a solid prospect less than a year away in Travis, plus your 11, 13, 14, and 15 prospects further off, from whom you may well get another player. You look to be one of the two best teams in MLB even with the ordinary 1B / 3B situation, so there's no need to put together, say, a Devers plus others for Freddie Freeman trade in order to get into contention or move from being just another contender to a favorite. Sox history has some trades that were bad when measured by WAR, but that no one regrets because they filled a short-term need beautifully. Mike Boddicker, Josh Beckett to begin with. The Sox are in a position to not have to make one of those trades. This is a lot of what Theo meant when he said "avoid the temptation to build an uber-team." We were a 98 to 105 win team this year against a neutral schedule. I believe that the carryover of the second-half/Bannister pitching boost is likely to be a wash against the decline from replacing Ortiz with Sandoval. Adding 3 or 4 wins by trading for Freeman is not going to measurably improve your odds of winning the WS, but would harm you in the long run. I need to work on more important stuff all winter. Looks like I picked the right time to give up following the Sox too closely. You and I nearly always agree on the perception of "need." For one, the Sox (as noted in the above article) were a third-order 103-win team this year. They're basically last year's Cubs. As big of a hit as losing Ortiz is to the offense, it's reasonable to think that the addition of a full year of Benintendi in LF will replace a fair portion of that "excess" offense (maybe a third, or half?), particularly if combined with a healthy Young. There's also the clear benefit defensively, which adds maybe a half to a full win. Secondly, the 4-5 starters for the first half+ of the year were historically bad. It's also reasonable to think that Rodriguez and Pomeranz will be substantially better in the first half (1-2 wins each) than what the Sox got this season. Wright may come back to earth a bit, but with Buchholz around, I don't see them losing more than maybe a win or two (at the extreme) from the 3 spot. They've got Kelly pitching very well out of the bullpen, and Barnes with a year more development. Hembree and Ross, too. Kimbrel and Price both had significantly off years results-wise, although not awful. Smith comes back mid-year. Shaw is serviceable at third, and Sandoval may be an option there or at DH. There's no real likely drop-off in offense or defense in the infield, just DH production. Even if Ortiz alone is responsible for contributing 50-60 additional runs over whoever becomes the DH, it's tough to imagine that they can't get half of those back with Benintendi in LF and continued development of all of their young players (although Leon's breakout probably artificially inflated the C line). Conversely, I can easily see their staff giving up 50-60 fewer runs next year. With some mild improvement in luck (24-20 in one run games versus 20-24), they're a 100-win+ team, easily, especially if Toronto loses two big bats and the O's and Yankees are a little worse, as might be expected. There is absolutely no *need* for a big DH bat. Unless they can get a steal on someone like Bautista who might take a pillow contract Beltre-style (unlikely but possible at his age), it's not worth the draft pick. Maybe a bullpen arm and re-sign Koji, and possibly Tazawa, depending on cost. They have no "needs," just some wants. They can bide their time and 1) see if Moncada is ready (making for a boost in offense and Shaw a potential trade chip), 2) see if Owens or Johnson can step up (making Buchholz or Pomeranz a trade chip), and 3) see if Kelly or Barnes breaks out, potentially making Kimbrel a trade chip. There's also the slim outside chance that Travis takes a big step forward, or Kopech does. Right now, their depth is a huge strength. It's arguable that their only "need" is to maintain it. I have the Sox as a third-order 105.6 win team this year; BP underestimates strength of schedule adjustment by not using iteration. I don't think Tazawa is coming back here. I bet Billy Beane signs him to a nothing contract with a promise that he'll start, and then deals him at the deadline when it turns out he's been a solid #3 all along. I think they want to re-sign Koji, and pick up a LHR to team with Ross. There's one other offseason move that's really obvious (yeah, so obvious I just figured it out!), and that's to sign Martin Prado to replace Aaron Hill. Hill actually has a very small platoon split; the idea with him was that he was a flyball hitter who should benefit from Fenway. Prado doesn't hit RHP well enough to take 3B time away from Shaw or Sandoval (there's no 3B I could find who is likely to be available who does), but he's a real-lfe lefty-masher, with a 130 / 99 career wRC+ split in 1500+ PA vs. LHP. The splits are much bigger over the last five years, 149 vs. 93 in 809 PA, with 83 BB and 62 SO. He's a good defender, too. You should be able to get him on a Chris Young sort of two-year deal. He becomes a bench piece; eventually you trade either Shaw or Sandoval when it's Moncada time.
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Post by radiohix on Oct 5, 2016 3:16:45 GMT -5
I have the Sox as a third-order 105.6 win team this year; BP underestimates strength of schedule adjustment by not using iteration. I don't think Tazawa is coming back here. I bet Billy Beane signs him to a nothing contract with a promise that he'll start, and then deals him at the deadline when it turns out he's been a solid #3 all along. I think they want to re-sign Koji, and pick up a LHR to team with Ross. There's one other offseason move that's really obvious (yeah, so obvious I just figured it out!), and that's to sign Martin Prado to replace Aaron Hill. Hill actually has a very small platoon split; the idea with him was that he was a flyball hitter who should benefit from Fenway. Prado doesn't hit RHP well enough to take 3B time away from Shaw or Sandoval (there's no 3B I could find who is likely to be available who does), but he's a real-lfe lefty-masher, with a 130 / 99 career wRC+ split in 1500+ PA vs. LHP. The splits are much bigger over the last five years, 149 vs. 93 in 809 PA, with 83 BB and 62 SO. He's a good defender, too. You should be able to get him on a Chris Young sort of two-year deal. He becomes a bench piece; eventually you trade either Shaw or Sandoval when it's Moncada time. Not gonna happen since he signed an extension with the Marlins few weeks agoAlso, I NEED one of these suits ASAP! http://instagr.am/p/BLKVygBAynd
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 5, 2016 9:48:01 GMT -5
I have the Sox as a third-order 105.6 win team this year; BP underestimates strength of schedule adjustment by not using iteration. I don't think Tazawa is coming back here. I bet Billy Beane signs him to a nothing contract with a promise that he'll start, and then deals him at the deadline when it turns out he's been a solid #3 all along. I think they want to re-sign Koji, and pick up a LHR to team with Ross. There's one other offseason move that's really obvious (yeah, so obvious I just figured it out!), and that's to sign Martin Prado to replace Aaron Hill. Hill actually has a very small platoon split; the idea with him was that he was a flyball hitter who should benefit from Fenway. Prado doesn't hit RHP well enough to take 3B time away from Shaw or Sandoval (there's no 3B I could find who is likely to be available who does), but he's a real-lfe lefty-masher, with a 130 / 99 career wRC+ split in 1500+ PA vs. LHP. The splits are much bigger over the last five years, 149 vs. 93 in 809 PA, with 83 BB and 62 SO. He's a good defender, too. You should be able to get him on a Chris Young sort of two-year deal. He becomes a bench piece; eventually you trade either Shaw or Sandoval when it's Moncada time. Not gonna happen since he signed an extension with the Marlins few weeks agoWell, he reportedly agreed to sign an extension (which is why Cott's Contracts doesn't list it), but it's a credible report. Didn't know he was a clubhouse leader. Darn. Now I gotta try to find an alternative who's better than Hill.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 5, 2016 10:06:58 GMT -5
I have the Sox as a third-order 105.6 win team this year; BP underestimates strength of schedule adjustment by not using iteration. I don't think Tazawa is coming back here. I bet Billy Beane signs him to a nothing contract with a promise that he'll start, and then deals him at the deadline when it turns out he's been a solid #3 all along. I think they want to re-sign Koji, and pick up a LHR to team with Ross. There's one other offseason move that's really obvious (yeah, so obvious I just figured it out!), and that's to sign Martin Prado to replace Aaron Hill. Hill actually has a very small platoon split; the idea with him was that he was a flyball hitter who should benefit from Fenway. Prado doesn't hit RHP well enough to take 3B time away from Shaw or Sandoval (there's no 3B I could find who is likely to be available who does), but he's a real-lfe lefty-masher, with a 130 / 99 career wRC+ split in 1500+ PA vs. LHP. The splits are much bigger over the last five years, 149 vs. 93 in 809 PA, with 83 BB and 62 SO. He's a good defender, too. You should be able to get him on a Chris Young sort of two-year deal. He becomes a bench piece; eventually you trade either Shaw or Sandoval when it's Moncada time. Not gonna happen since he signed an extension with the Marlins few weeks agoAlso, I NEED one of these suits ASAP! http://instagr.am/p/BLKVygBAynd Apparently they were purchased for everyone by noted clubhouse guy... Hanley Ramirez? gordonedes.com/2016/10/04/487/What a difference a year makes, eh?
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Post by 0ap0 on Oct 5, 2016 10:48:28 GMT -5
Somebody please tell him about the bottom button...
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Post by telson13 on Oct 6, 2016 17:21:53 GMT -5
You and I nearly always agree on the perception of "need." For one, the Sox (as noted in the above article) were a third-order 103-win team this year. They're basically last year's Cubs. As big of a hit as losing Ortiz is to the offense, it's reasonable to think that the addition of a full year of Benintendi in LF will replace a fair portion of that "excess" offense (maybe a third, or half?), particularly if combined with a healthy Young. There's also the clear benefit defensively, which adds maybe a half to a full win. Secondly, the 4-5 starters for the first half+ of the year were historically bad. It's also reasonable to think that Rodriguez and Pomeranz will be substantially better in the first half (1-2 wins each) than what the Sox got this season. Wright may come back to earth a bit, but with Buchholz around, I don't see them losing more than maybe a win or two (at the extreme) from the 3 spot. They've got Kelly pitching very well out of the bullpen, and Barnes with a year more development. Hembree and Ross, too. Kimbrel and Price both had significantly off years results-wise, although not awful. Smith comes back mid-year. Shaw is serviceable at third, and Sandoval may be an option there or at DH. There's no real likely drop-off in offense or defense in the infield, just DH production. Even if Ortiz alone is responsible for contributing 50-60 additional runs over whoever becomes the DH, it's tough to imagine that they can't get half of those back with Benintendi in LF and continued development of all of their young players (although Leon's breakout probably artificially inflated the C line). Conversely, I can easily see their staff giving up 50-60 fewer runs next year. With some mild improvement in luck (24-20 in one run games versus 20-24), they're a 100-win+ team, easily, especially if Toronto loses two big bats and the O's and Yankees are a little worse, as might be expected. There is absolutely no *need* for a big DH bat. Unless they can get a steal on someone like Bautista who might take a pillow contract Beltre-style (unlikely but possible at his age), it's not worth the draft pick. Maybe a bullpen arm and re-sign Koji, and possibly Tazawa, depending on cost. They have no "needs," just some wants. They can bide their time and 1) see if Moncada is ready (making for a boost in offense and Shaw a potential trade chip), 2) see if Owens or Johnson can step up (making Buchholz or Pomeranz a trade chip), and 3) see if Kelly or Barnes breaks out, potentially making Kimbrel a trade chip. There's also the slim outside chance that Travis takes a big step forward, or Kopech does. Right now, their depth is a huge strength. It's arguable that their only "need" is to maintain it. I have the Sox as a third-order 105.6 win team this year; BP underestimates strength of schedule adjustment by not using iteration. I don't think Tazawa is coming back here. I bet Billy Beane signs him to a nothing contract with a promise that he'll start, and then deals him at the deadline when it turns out he's been a solid #3 all along. I think they want to re-sign Koji, and pick up a LHR to team with Ross. There's one other offseason move that's really obvious (yeah, so obvious I just figured it out!), and that's to sign Martin Prado to replace Aaron Hill. Hill actually has a very small platoon split; the idea with him was that he was a flyball hitter who should benefit from Fenway. Prado doesn't hit RHP well enough to take 3B time away from Shaw or Sandoval (there's no 3B I could find who is likely to be available who does), but he's a real-lfe lefty-masher, with a 130 / 99 career wRC+ split in 1500+ PA vs. LHP. The splits are much bigger over the last five years, 149 vs. 93 in 809 PA, with 83 BB and 62 SO. He's a good defender, too. You should be able to get him on a Chris Young sort of two-year deal. He becomes a bench piece; eventually you trade either Shaw or Sandoval when it's Moncada time. Love the Prado idea. Perfect placeholder with value as a trade chip once Moncada is ready.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 7, 2016 0:54:45 GMT -5
I have the Sox as a third-order 105.6 win team this year; BP underestimates strength of schedule adjustment by not using iteration. I don't think Tazawa is coming back here. I bet Billy Beane signs him to a nothing contract with a promise that he'll start, and then deals him at the deadline when it turns out he's been a solid #3 all along. I think they want to re-sign Koji, and pick up a LHR to team with Ross. There's one other offseason move that's really obvious (yeah, so obvious I just figured it out!), and that's to sign Martin Prado to replace Aaron Hill. Hill actually has a very small platoon split; the idea with him was that he was a flyball hitter who should benefit from Fenway. Prado doesn't hit RHP well enough to take 3B time away from Shaw or Sandoval (there's no 3B I could find who is likely to be available who does), but he's a real-lfe lefty-masher, with a 130 / 99 career wRC+ split in 1500+ PA vs. LHP. The splits are much bigger over the last five years, 149 vs. 93 in 809 PA, with 83 BB and 62 SO. He's a good defender, too. You should be able to get him on a Chris Young sort of two-year deal. He becomes a bench piece; eventually you trade either Shaw or Sandoval when it's Moncada time. Love the Prado idea. Perfect placeholder with value as a trade chip once Moncada is ready. Alas, it's been reported that he's agreed to a 3-yr extension with the Marlins, who view him as a clubhouse leader. My list of potential platoon partners other than Hill, which I'll look into at some point soon: Tyler Saladino, Darwin Barney, Eduardo Nunez, Hernan Perez, Adam Rosales, Jeffry Marte, Sean Rodriguez, David Freese, Yunel Escobar, Eugenio Suarez, Marwin Gonzalez. That's basically every R or S hitter who played 10+ games at 3B this year with more than 1.0 WAR / 150 games who is not set to start for a contender, other than Javier Baez, the A's surprise breakout Ryon Healy, Maikel Franco who the Phils will give more chances to, and Jung Ho Kang and Yangervis Solarte, who I already looked at and didn't have the right platoon split.
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Post by bluechip on Oct 7, 2016 5:49:54 GMT -5
Somebody please tell him about the bottom button... I bet his belt is a different color than his shoes, too.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 8, 2016 17:58:38 GMT -5
Love the Prado idea. Perfect placeholder with value as a trade chip once Moncada is ready. Alas, it's been reported that he's agreed to a 3-yr extension with the Marlins, who view him as a clubhouse leader. My list of potential platoon partners other than Hill, which I'll look into at some point soon: Tyler Saladino, Darwin Barney, Eduardo Nunez, Hernan Perez, Adam Rosales, Jeffry Marte, Sean Rodriguez, David Freese, Yunel Escobar, Eugenio Suarez, Marwin Gonzalez. That's basically every R or S hitter who played 10+ games at 3B this year with more than 1.0 WAR / 150 games who is not set to start for a contender, other than Javier Baez, the A's surprise breakout Ryon Healy, Maikel Franco who the Phils will give more chances to, and Jung Ho Kang and Yangervis Solarte, who I already looked at and didn't have the right platoon split. Can we spin off a thread called Who Platoons at 3B in 2017? When you eliminate Prado from the picture, you get another another clear first choice: Sean Rodriguez. He's a lefty killer, with a career regressed 9.6% platoon split (from 17.2% raw), which corresponds to a .332 vs. .303 wOBA based on his ROS projection at end of year, or .383 vs. .349 based on his .363 wOBA of last year. He can play anywhere and has been average or a bit above in 652 career innings at 3B. Another interesting FA is Adam Rosales, coming off an inexplicable .340 wOBA with the Padres (versus a .293 ROS projection). He has a smaller split (7.6%) and is four years older, and is about as good defensively. If his breakout was for real and all of Rodriguez's good year was a mirage, he might be the better option. OTOH, if Rosales' breakout was all a mirage, he's not better than Hill.
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Post by orion09 on Apr 19, 2019 18:32:37 GMT -5
Posting this tweet again. E-Rod's thrown a few sliders in 2019 (4.26%, according to Brooks Baseball), but this filthy weapon from Spring Training has been AWOL so far. Hoping he'll start throwing a few of these:
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