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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 5, 2014 8:00:00 GMT -5
He does have a pretty good hat-throwing routine but I have no reason to believe he would be a good manager otherwise, seeing as he was hand-picked by Farrell. Yes. Because he was hand picked by JF means he will be a ****ty manager. That makes perfect sense. And no he is not on the hot seat. Ok Larry, let's see what happens. You think there gonna do nothing if this team doesn't respond?
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 5, 2014 8:38:32 GMT -5
Chili Davis please. Unless they can get Manny Ramirez from the Cubs. Supposed to have found Jesus andt turned into a great coach and model citizen. And having read about his workouts and batting T work in the off season, he probably knows more about hitting than anyone else being considered for the job. Manny would become too much of a distraction for this market given his past history here. Show me a couple of years of finding Jesus and becoming a model citizen, rather than the one at Cubs AAA, and I might consider it.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 5, 2014 9:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 5, 2014 10:05:42 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what they do here.
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Post by moonstone2 on Oct 5, 2014 14:22:24 GMT -5
You know, MLB would probably have some better managers if teams didn't just interview the same 5-10 guys every time. To be fair, this seems more like Gammons spitballing who the candidates will be, as opposed to the conclusive list of guys they're interviewing. A large part of the complaining over the same guys showing up is just because the media reports this stuff, and they're the ones who keep bringing up the same names over and over again. The Rangers publicly announced whom they were interviewing. The reason it's always the same 5-10 guys is the same reason most publications have the same top 5-10 top prospects. This is a small industry and everyone knows who the top candidates are for the top jobs. Yes occasionally teams will hire a crony, as happened on Arizona, but guys like A.J. Proeller were at the top of everyone's list because they are good and everyone knows it. As far as the hitting coach job goes, I believe that organizations do better when they promote from within. That's why I hope Victor is given the job and I am surprised that he wasn't mentioned by Cafardo. Not sure why Brunansky or Valentin would be hired because although they played for Boston, neither Farrell or Cherrington knows them.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 7, 2014 12:42:02 GMT -5
“@bradfo: Might be on Red Sox radar RT @csnmooney Sources: Bill Mueller has resigned as Cubs hitting coach”
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Post by brianthetaoist on Oct 7, 2014 12:46:27 GMT -5
I really hope they get the guy who will get way too much credit if the Sox hit well instead of the guy who will get way too much blame if they don't.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 7, 2014 15:20:50 GMT -5
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Post by awall on Oct 7, 2014 19:36:59 GMT -5
Are we sure Mueller can't serve as hitting coach and still play 3B? (Mostly kidding). I would love to see him get the job.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Oct 7, 2014 19:41:13 GMT -5
Mattingly? He's going to get canned as LAD manager any minute now.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 8, 2014 12:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 10, 2014 15:45:03 GMT -5
Kevin long fired by yankees
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 10, 2014 16:09:36 GMT -5
Well, what makes a good hitting coach? Is beauty in the eye of the beholder? What qualities do the Red Sox value?
It seems that a lot of these guys are like managers...a certain job hopping aspect. Yup Long was fired. The Yankees, with all their money, spending and short porch barely hit better than the Sox. On the surface that would not be the proverbial ringing endorsement.
Also, what tangible value does a hitting coach provide? There are a million heralded golf teachers and when one reads their teachings, drills etc., the stuff makes sense. 'How to improve lag, increase swing speed, square the clubface, effect a full release'...on and on. Yes I know that there are some contradictions but the analysis that goes into it seems several parsecs beyond where baseball is. Is this an example where baseball is still anachronistic?
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Post by mgoetze on Oct 10, 2014 17:36:16 GMT -5
Also, what tangible value does a hitting coach provide? Well, someone's got to hold on to the challenge flag if Farrell, Lovullo and Butterfield get ejected (it actually happened once!)
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 11, 2014 8:14:27 GMT -5
Also, what tangible value does a hitting coach provide? Well, someone's got to hold on to the challenge flag if Farrell, Lovullo and Butterfield get ejected (it actually happened once!) Seems about as good a reason as any. It just appears that coaches in other sports are more advanced in teaching effective techniques, developing tools or teaching aids to enhance performance, than in baseball. Some explanations posted here have said 'well, they do have this stuff, it's just proprietary'....which is why you don't hear much. Maybe that is so in part but baseball is not the Pentagon. Techniques leak out. And, as all can see, hitting coaches make the rounds....Like managers 'they are hired to be fired.' With them goes that in-house instruction. My general feeling is that a hitting coach at the MLB level is basically someone a player can go to if the player feels he has a problem...not the other way around. The player is seen having made his way to the Bigs and has essentially arrived. He is bigger than the coach. John Valentin...? He developed the odd bob up and down stance that reportedly contributed to an offensive decline. My general belief is that I would like a batting coach to have been a batting coach...someone deeply steeped in technique rather than a former ballplayer or "lifer" who can accurately hit the spittoon from 10 feet. But, given that feeling, the coach probably should be personal and approachable. If he has good rapport, that is a plus. What he can effectively add beyond that is a question in my mind. When I look at Long...highly acclaimed before coming to the Yankees, I see declining performance in some of their premier hitters...Texiera being a classic example. True a lowering offensive tide across baseball sinks all the boats, but still.
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Post by cardsox on Oct 11, 2014 10:27:30 GMT -5
My preference, after this season, is someone who has had success working with young players before. I have no idea who that would be, but I have to feel our future depends on developing Xander and Mookie. They should be anchors for the next decade and we need them ASAP.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 11, 2014 11:22:13 GMT -5
My preference, after this season, is someone who has had success working with young players before. I have no idea who that would be, but I have to feel our future depends on developing Xander and Mookie. They should be anchors for the next decade and we need them ASAP. Joppie and Gedman seemed to have done pretty well for our young players... I wonder if they will be considered.
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Post by larrycook on Oct 11, 2014 22:32:19 GMT -5
Mueller and victor seems like a complimentary combination.
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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 12, 2014 16:02:22 GMT -5
What about the guy responsible for Mookie Betts? UL Washington. That story impresses me. Do you guys understand Mookie could be out of baseball right now. Instead they have a huge valuable chip.or how about Sox give up on Mookie and another team figures out the hitch and they have a top 20 talent. That attention to detail is so big to me. Just throwing another name out there.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 13, 2014 8:43:25 GMT -5
What about the guy responsible for Mookie Betts? UL Washington. That story impresses me. Do you guys understand Mookie could be out of baseball right now. Instead they have a huge valuable chip.or how about Sox give up on Mookie and another team figures out the hitch and they have a top 20 talent. That attention to detail is so big to me. Just throwing another name out there. Don't know the story about Mookie and U.L. Perhaps it was recounted here and I missed it. But, "attention to detail' is what I want too......as well as someone who is up to speed on cutting edge techniques/teaching and who is a good observer and can communicate well. PICARD EDIT: See blurb on Washington/Betts here.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 13, 2014 12:36:04 GMT -5
What about the guy responsible for Mookie Betts? UL Washington. That story impresses me. Do you guys understand Mookie could be out of baseball right now. Instead they have a huge valuable chip.or how about Sox give up on Mookie and another team figures out the hitch and they have a top 20 talent. That attention to detail is so big to me. Just throwing another name out there. Don't know the story about Mookie and U.L. Perhaps it was recounted here and I missed it. But, "attention to detail' is what I want too......as well as someone who is up to speed on cutting edge techniques/teaching and who is a good observer and can communicate well. PICARD EDIT: See blurb on Washington/Betts here. But will UL Washington teach hitters to hit with a toothpick in their mouth the way he did when he was a player?
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Post by jrffam05 on Oct 13, 2014 12:53:18 GMT -5
Kevin long fired by yankees I have no idea how to evaluate a hitting coach, but going on reputation, Long seems like a very good fit.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 13, 2014 18:37:31 GMT -5
“@bradfo: Red Sox interviewing internal and external candidates for hitting coach. Gedman, Hers and Sorrento (Angels) in this week. List forming”
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 13, 2014 18:37:45 GMT -5
“@peteabe: #RedSox do have an interest in former #Yankees coach Kevin Long.”
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 13, 2014 20:14:06 GMT -5
Will update when I hear more
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