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2014-15 Offseason Non-Sox thread
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 2, 2014 11:43:35 GMT -5
So I guess we're using this thread as the general MLB catch-all?
Anyway, Jays claimed Justin Smoak on waivers from Seattle, declined his option (he remains on the roster as arb-eligible), and then traded Adam Lind to Milwaukee for Marco Estrada.
Brewers desperately needed 1B help. Might've (and still could be) a landing spot for Shaw if he hits well this year, perhaps?
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Post by wcsoxfan on Nov 2, 2014 12:01:09 GMT -5
So I guess we're using this thread as the general MLB catch-all? Anyway, Jays claimed Justin Smoak on waivers from Seattle, declined his option (he remains on the roster as arb-eligible), and then traded Adam Lind to Milwaukee for Marco Estrada. Brewers desperately needed 1B help. Might've (and still could be) a landing spot for Shaw if he hits well this year, perhaps? Thanks for update - but I'm not sure I get the Shaw reference, can you elaborate? (do you think Travis Shaw will be traded to the Brewers?) Blue Jays have been busy: Think this assures Melky goes back to Toronto. Don't see a team giving him as high a AAV AND be willing to give up the draft pick. Maybe 13-14 mil over 3 years type of extension. I like Santos as a 'spaghetti on the wall' RP pickup. His performances are volatile, but when he's good, he can be very good (or has been previously at least). espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11802384/toronto-blue-jays-trade-adam-lind-milwaukee-brewers-marco-estrada
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 3, 2014 18:05:22 GMT -5
And the twelve players who recived qualifying offers are...... Max Scherzer and Victor Martinez (Tigers), James Shields (Royals), Ervin Santana (Braves), David Robertson (Yankees), Francisco Liriano and Russell Martin (Pirates), Hanley Ramirez (Dodgers), Pablo Sandoval (Giants), Michael Cuddyer (Rockies), Nelson Cruz (Orioles) and Melky Cabrera (Blue Jays).
Big surprise is Cuddyer, mildly surprised by Liriano and Cabrera the rest was expected.
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 3, 2014 18:20:59 GMT -5
And the twelve players who recived qualifying offers are...... Max Scherzer and Victor Martinez (Tigers), James Shields (Royals), Ervin Santana (Braves), David Robertson (Yankees), Francisco Liriano and Russell Martin (Pirates), Hanley Ramirez (Dodgers), Pablo Sandoval (Giants), Michael Cuddyer (Rockies), Nelson Cruz (Orioles) and Melky Cabrera (Blue Jays). Big surprise is Cuddyer, mildly surprised by Liriano and Cabrera the rest was expected. Seriously, I can't believe it. The Rockies, who have Morneau, Dickerson, Blackmon, Cargo (plus Stubbs and Barnes for LHP), lock themselves into massively overpaying a to-be 36-year-old who is an awful defensive outfielder. Yes, he can still rake, but this isn't the direction the Rockies should be going, no matter how much the players and coaches love Cuddy. And poor Cuddyer -- this essentially traps him from going anywhere else at a decent rate. It was made clear that the Mets were seriously interested in nabbing him on a two year deal, but no way I can see them, or anyone else, really, giving up their pick for him.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Nov 3, 2014 18:29:25 GMT -5
Yeah the only thing I could see is maybe they turn around and trade him after he accepts, which he has to unless he planning on waiting until June. But that made no sense to me either.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 3, 2014 18:30:23 GMT -5
And the twelve players who recived qualifying offers are...... Max Scherzer and Victor Martinez (Tigers), James Shields (Royals), Ervin Santana (Braves), David Robertson (Yankees), Francisco Liriano and Russell Martin (Pirates), Hanley Ramirez (Dodgers), Pablo Sandoval (Giants), Michael Cuddyer (Rockies), Nelson Cruz (Orioles) and Melky Cabrera (Blue Jays). Big surprise is Cuddyer, mildly surprised by Liriano and Cabrera the rest was expected. I'd agree on Cuddyer. The big reason isn't his hitting - he's been useful to Colorado - but his durability. He'll be 36 before the season starts, and he's only played in a little more than half the Rockies' games over that period - only 49 games last year. It's a bit to pay for someone who may just take it, and sit on the bench a good portion of the time. All that said, it probably pencils out money wise if he keeps hitting at a .900+ OPS clip.
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 3, 2014 18:53:06 GMT -5
And the twelve players who recived qualifying offers are...... Max Scherzer and Victor Martinez (Tigers), James Shields (Royals), Ervin Santana (Braves), David Robertson (Yankees), Francisco Liriano and Russell Martin (Pirates), Hanley Ramirez (Dodgers), Pablo Sandoval (Giants), Michael Cuddyer (Rockies), Nelson Cruz (Orioles) and Melky Cabrera (Blue Jays). Big surprise is Cuddyer, mildly surprised by Liriano and Cabrera the rest was expected. I'd agree on Cuddyer. The big reason isn't his hitting - he's been useful to Colorado - but his durability. He'll be 36 before the season starts, and he's only played in a little more than half the Rockies' games over that period - only 49 games last year. It's a bit to pay for someone who may just take it, and sit on the bench a good portion of the time. All that said, it probably pencils out money wise if he keeps hitting at a .900+ OPS clip. Very useful, for sure, but to commit over $15 million to a guy who may not even play 100 games, or start everyday? I would be pretty surprised if he reaches the two-WAR mark in 2015. Also, considering their other players, Cuddyer is a guy who really should be on the bench in away games vs. RHP's. Did some poking around and thought I'd share this: 9 out of the top 24 leaders in home BABIP in 2013-2014 are Colorado Rockies, including the top 4 (Cuddyer (.406), Tulo, Barnes, Stubbs). Coors never ceases to amaze.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 3, 2014 19:03:02 GMT -5
Cuddyer is probably a better player than Kendrys Morales. So there's that.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 5, 2014 8:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 5, 2014 8:59:54 GMT -5
Don't know why I'm annoyed every single year about the Gold Glove awards... I should accept it by now.
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Post by jmei on Nov 5, 2014 20:29:04 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on Nov 6, 2014 12:01:24 GMT -5
Interesting line from this piece. While this speaks to the willingness to offer the higher deals to minor league free agents it just as much speaks to their willingness to outspend on the international market. They will no doubt be hard to beat on Moncada if he becomes available this international signing period. It will make the Angels high dollar signing seem a pittance.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 6, 2014 13:04:23 GMT -5
Interesting line from this piece. While this speaks to the willingness to offer the higher deals to minor league free agents it just as much speaks to their willingness to outspend on the international market. They will no doubt be hard to beat on Moncada if he becomes available this international signing period. It will make the Angels high dollar signing seem a pittance. Thanks for posting that link, jmei. Read it yesterday and I was going to do the same, for exactly the reasons taftreign does: as an indication of how the MFY's money can distort different markets for talent and exploit existing inefficiencies. I think the scramble for international talent will be a circus before the loopholes are all closed. I agree that 1/2 billion figure is a real eye opener. That said, if Moncada is as much of a game-changer as a lot of scouts seem to think, I don't see NY as the only player by any means. There will be quite a few teams throwing their financial weight around before all is said and done. We'll see how close to the wire this comes, what with the June deadline. Moncada's agents have to be scrambling like mad to get the biggest players involved at this point. Someone wrote that in the international thread I believe, and it's right on.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 6, 2014 13:22:12 GMT -5
FWIW, the Red Sox have been one of the better-paying teams for MLFAs for a long time as well, based on what I've heard.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 7, 2014 18:29:57 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 7, 2014 22:59:22 GMT -5
Perhaps more importantly, Dodgers pulled Red Sox scout Galen Carr away. Gammons mentioned losing "three top evaluators" to the Dodgers and Marlins. One is apparently Carr. Tom Battista isn't one of them (he went to the Braves, although this could just be Gammo-twitter speak and he may be including him in there.
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Post by jmei on Nov 8, 2014 10:16:09 GMT -5
I've always thought that if I ran a big-market organization, I'd spend a little above-market to lure away top scouts from outside the organization.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Nov 8, 2014 10:28:00 GMT -5
I've always thought that if I ran a big-market organization, I'd spend a little above-market to lure away top scouts from outside the organization. Yeah, me, too ... I'd track the results of the other scouts and try like mad to poach. Then I'd be pretty strict on holding my in-house scouts and development staff to performance metrics. Hire the best people, pay them well, and hold them accountable ... just basic good management for an organization with resources. I'd also spend more on the minor leagues infrastructure, giving better workout facilities and especially nutritional programs (like high-quality catered meals) to all of the affiliates. This seems like such a no-brainer to me that I don't know why a team like the Sox expects their players to live on the tiny meal stipends they get. Maybe there's more here than I think, but my limited experience and knowledge seems like the approach in this area is pretty outdated.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Nov 10, 2014 15:42:50 GMT -5
Marc Carig ?@marccarig Mets announce they’ve signed Michael Cuddyer to a two-year contract. Well then.
Translation: Mets lose 15th overall pick for Cuddyer. Also, the Mets probably are out on Cespedes.
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Post by mredsox89 on Nov 10, 2014 15:45:04 GMT -5
Marc Carig ?@marccarig Mets announce they’ve signed Michael Cuddyer to a two-year contract. Well then. Is this as absurd as it seems? Giving up a pick for a 35 year old on a two year deal who will be lucky to hit 2 WAR in either season? The only way this even remotely makes sense IMO is if they end up signing one of the top flight QO guys and Cuddyer essentially costs them their second pick
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Nov 10, 2014 15:45:08 GMT -5
Marc Carig ?@marccarig Mets announce they’ve signed Michael Cuddyer to a two-year contract. Well then. Translation: Mets lose 15th overall pick for Cuddyer. First headscratcher of the offseason. Good for Cuddyer, I thought that tag was going to kill his options. Now the need to get cespedes so they can fill their roster with HR derby contestants.
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Post by mattpicard on Nov 10, 2014 15:57:28 GMT -5
Marc Carig ?@marccarig Mets announce they’ve signed Michael Cuddyer to a two-year contract. Well then. Translation: Mets lose 15th overall pick for Cuddyer. First headscratcher of the offseason. Good for Cuddyer, I thought that tag was going to kill his options. Now the need to get cespedes so they can fill their roster with HR derby contestants. Except, unfortunately for us, this will take them out of the running for Cespedes. They'll run a Granderon/Lagares/Cuddyer outfield, with Cuddy likely grabbing some time at first against LHP's. Pretty shocked about this signing. Can't wait to see what the AAV is.
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Post by mgoetze on Nov 10, 2014 16:01:07 GMT -5
Is this as absurd as it seems? Yes.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Nov 10, 2014 16:14:03 GMT -5
Jack Curry ?@jackcurryyes David Robertson has turned down the Yankees qualifying offer.
Never good seeing the Yanks get extra picks.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 10, 2014 16:20:17 GMT -5
Jack Curry ?@jackcurryyes David Robertson has turned down the Yankees qualifying offer. Never good seeing the Yanks get extra picks. We'll see where he lands. Presumably, he's looking for a multi-year deal in the $12-$14 m/year range. Seems a bit stiff for a 1-inning guy and I'll be interested to see who gives it to him.
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