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Post by soxfanatic on Mar 11, 2015 11:36:05 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 25 sec. #Phillies are taking a lot of looks at #RedSox 3B prospect Garin Cecchini. Another one today.
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Post by mgoetze on Mar 11, 2015 13:01:14 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 25 sec. #Phillies are taking a lot of looks at #RedSox 3B prospect Garin Cecchini. Another one today. Hamels for Cecchini straight up? Yeah I would probably do that.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 11, 2015 13:47:21 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Mar 11, 2015 14:37:24 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 25 sec. #Phillies are taking a lot of looks at #RedSox 3B prospect Garin Cecchini. Another one today. Hamels for Cecchini straight up? Yeah I would probably do that. keep racking up those RBI's Garin. God knows those are the kind of stats RAJ is looking at
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Post by larrycook on Mar 11, 2015 20:15:24 GMT -5
Betts appears to pick up the ball early and he has good hand/eye coordination. Tough to strike out. I can not wait to see how he responds to however major league pitchers attack him.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 11, 2015 22:09:01 GMT -5
Betts has a master plan, and that's amazing for one so young. Watching him control the plate, foul off pitches he can't deal with, realign what to expect pitch-to-pitch, and then tatoo stuff that comes into his wheelhouse - a surprisingly broad area in the right half of the plate - is amazing. They attacked last year, and he repelled like a pro.
There were hints of this. He showed up at the AFL two years back, actually eager to see new breaking pitches, to experience them so he could start to figure out how to hit them. A lot of players might want to do that, but it requires physical tools that not everyone has, the hand/eye coordination that you mention, pitch selection and strike zone judgement that has to happen in a few tenths of a second, and a lightning quick bat. He looks to have all those.
The scout's quote is funny in that he sounds almost offended that anyone would even ask the question "Are you kidding me?". He thinks Betts is the real deal. From the few looks I've gotten, I think he has it nailed.
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Post by dcsoxfan on Mar 11, 2015 22:26:31 GMT -5
I wonder to what degree players like Betts who have close relatives (in this case Terry Schumpert) who were major league players have an advantage over others. Specifically, I suspect they are exposed to a more sophisticated approach to the game at a younger age. In much the same way as children who receive formal language or musical training at a very young age are more likely to excel, I suspect early exposure to formalized baseball instruction would result in substantial advantages as well.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Mar 11, 2015 23:36:53 GMT -5
I don't know why everyone is talking about Betts like he's some sort of kid or something. He's a grizzled veteran -- heck, he's in the older half of the 40-man roster.
Think about this for a moment. Over half the 40-man roster has been added since last July. Eight months ago. I wonder how often such a drastic roster turnover happens -- more than one would think, maybe?
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Post by ericmvan on Mar 12, 2015 1:52:15 GMT -5
Betts has a master plan, and that's amazing for one so young. Watching him control the plate, foul off pitches he can't deal with, realign what to expect pitch-to-pitch, and then tatoo stuff that comes into his wheelhouse - a surprisingly broad area in the right half of the plate - is amazing. They attacked last year, and he repelled like a pro. There were hints of this. He showed up at the AFL two years back, actually eager to see new breaking pitches, to experience them so he could start to figure out how to hit them. A lot of players might want to do that, but it requires physical tools that not everyone has, the hand/eye coordination that you mention, pitch selection and strike zone judgement that has to happen in a few tenths of a second, and a lightning quick bat. He looks to have all those. The scout's quote is funny in that he sounds almost offended that anyone would even ask the question "Are you kidding me?". He thinks Betts is the real deal. From the few looks I've gotten, I think he has it nailed. Here's a tweak to some fun facts I posted earlier: Top 12 seasons in aWAR/G (minimum 200 PA), rookies age 21 and under with less than 1500 PA in the minors: 11.3 Mike Trout 6.9 Ted Williams 6.4 Albert Pujols 6.1 Frank Robinson 5.8 Jayson Heyward 5.8 Stan Musial 5.8 Mookie Betts
5.7 Vada Pinson 5.7 Richie Ashburn 5.5 Rogers Hornsby 5.1 Bryce Harper 5.1 Joe Morgan
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Post by mgoetze on Mar 12, 2015 6:11:56 GMT -5
I wonder to what degree players like Betts who have close relatives (in this case Terry Schumpert) who were major league players have an advantage over others. On a related note, the broadcast yesterday had some interesting tidbits about Travis Shaw and his dad Jeff Shaw. Good thing the game was on YES, because I bet Don & Jerry wouldn't have had anything half as interesting to say.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 12, 2015 6:30:57 GMT -5
I wonder to what degree players like Betts who have close relatives (in this case Terry Schumpert) who were major league players have an advantage over others. On a related note, the broadcast yesterday had some interesting tidbits about Travis Shaw and his dad Jeff Shaw. Good thing the game was on YES, because I bet Don & Jerry wouldn't have had anything half as interesting to say. That sounds pretty slanted to me. Fact is, since it was on YES instead of NESN, right now we have no idea what color running shoes Don & Jerry were wearing in the hotel lobby.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 12, 2015 9:02:17 GMT -5
I can't remember a season like this where I felt so confident on the 25 man roster at this point. Assuming the saw health from here on out, which I realize isn't a guarantee. The only real questions were the back of the bullpen and the outfield. Rusney is ticketed for AAA if the others are healthy. It's where he should start anyways to get regular ABs and let stuff sort out. Him or Mookie are the only options for AAA and Mookie needs to start no doubt. I'm not in favor of trading Craig to dump him. I believe in him and while he doesn't fit this roster well, he could be exactly what they need as soon as next year as a fill in for losing Napoli or even Ortiz protection.
Ross and Ogando will be in the pen if they are healthy as will Koji, Tazawa, Mujica (why trade him?), Varvaro and Breslow.
Breslow is the one I don't think should be given a spot, but I have no doubt he has/will be.
It's good there are a lot of new faces and young kids to pay attention to this year.
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Post by graveline on Mar 12, 2015 11:21:53 GMT -5
is anyone down in the fort have access to the minor league rosters/workout groups sheet that they give out? if so, can you please scan and post? many thanks
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 12, 2015 11:35:23 GMT -5
From Speier's 108-stitches:
But Thurston’s contract is atypical. He’s been signed as a player/coach who will be part of the staff of manager Billy McMillon in Double A Portland. For now, he’s focused primarily on coaching, and Thurston said that he assumes that his playing career is indeed over. His goal is to become a big league coach, and after the Sox had called him in recent winters to see if he’d be interested in joining them, Thurston said that he felt ready to start the transition this season. Thurston has played 184 career big league games in parts of seven seasons.
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Post by okin15 on Mar 12, 2015 12:37:07 GMT -5
Rusney is ticketed for AAA if the others are healthy. It's where he should start anyways to get regular ABs and let stuff sort out. Him or Mookie are the only options for AAA and Mookie needs to start no doubt. I'm not in favor of trading Craig to dump him. I believe in him and while he doesn't fit this roster well, he could be exactly what they need as soon as next year as a fill in for losing Napoli or even Ortiz protection. Craig has options left and is inside the period where he would have to give permission. He would be past that period at some point mid-year if he stays in the bigs for a while. Can someone confirm or correct me on this? If everyone is healthy I think that both Craig and Rusney could use some rides on the Pawtucket shuttle in order to get regular at-bats. I don't argue that Castillio seems headed there initially.
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Post by sittingstill on Mar 12, 2015 15:21:02 GMT -5
is anyone down in the fort have access to the minor league rosters/workout groups sheet that they give out? if so, can you please scan and post? many thanks It has been a while since I've seen those sheets around. Not sure I've seen them since they moved to jetBlue.
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Post by okin15 on Mar 12, 2015 16:26:26 GMT -5
Did Ramirez get any OF chances today? He needs some game-day practice in the field.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 12, 2015 16:37:52 GMT -5
is anyone down in the fort have access to the minor league rosters/workout groups sheet that they give out? if so, can you please scan and post? many thanks It has been a while since I've seen those sheets around. Not sure I've seen them since they moved to jetBlue. 1) Kelly, they definitely still have them. You typically have to get them from a guy on a cart I think? They definitely have them though. 2) Since the MiL position players don't even report until tomorrow, the rosters wouldn't even be out yet.
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 12, 2015 16:45:35 GMT -5
Saw the Sox play today on a whim at beautiful old McKecknie Field in Bradenton.
Quick hits:
Papi looks in damned good shape and hit a typical tower job over the 400 foot sign in dead center against a pretty strong cross breeze.
Panda looks better physically in person and was pretty damned agile at third fielding a high chopper by going airborne and landing like a cat. He also came in on a tapper and displayed a quick release and strong arm nabbing the runners in both cases. He hit a HR matching Papi's trajectory but over the 375' sign in right center. Both were no-doubters.
Hanley is not 240 lbs. He looks jacked top and bottom but not really heavy. He raked a bullet down the LF line that was somehow caught on a stagger. The fielder must have been playing Hanley strongly to pull. As Hanley was going back to the dugout he stopped, stared out at the left-fielder and jokingly motioned him to play more straight away so he could have gotten a hit. He does have something of a swagger and did not run balls out to first. Ok, yup it is spring and we don't want him to pull a hammy.
JBJ made a nice running catch coming in from center, raked a line drive hit over second base and hit a high drive to the warning track in dead center that probably would have been out had the wind not been blowing as strongly.
Napoli has a new body. Wow. What a difference....much leaner but not skinny. He looks 5 years younger.
The stadium had a clock that displayed a countdown of time between innings but none other.
There was no radar gun reading that I could see but Buch enjoyed good results following the first three batters who hit sharp liners.
Rodriguez punched out 4 in his 2 2/3 innings on what seemed a variety of offerings.
Swihart displayed a strong arm to second on a stolen base but the throw was high as he had to hustle to retrieve a boxed ball. He probably would have had the runner despite that had the throw been accurate.
The temp was 84 at game time, the sausages and onions primo and the ambience unbeatable. The fan loyalties seemed about 70% pro-Sox.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Mar 12, 2015 17:12:03 GMT -5
Any insight into how Xander Bogaerts defense has looked so far this spring???
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 12, 2015 17:21:55 GMT -5
Xander had no plays today that were worth mentioning. Hanley had a couple of easy plays in left. One was a very high fly that caused perhaps momentary fan anxiety as it appeared that he may have lost the ball for a second but then he casually made the catch. All is well.
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Post by sittingstill on Mar 12, 2015 18:04:47 GMT -5
It has been a while since I've seen those sheets around. Not sure I've seen them since they moved to jetBlue. 1) Kelly, they definitely still have them. You typically have to get them from a guy on a cart I think? They definitely have them though. I know they have rosters, but workout groups?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 12, 2015 18:08:01 GMT -5
1) Kelly, they definitely still have them. You typically have to get them from a guy on a cart I think? They definitely have them though. I know they have rosters, but workout groups? Oh, didn't realize that was a thing. Half of my job every year when we're down there is figuring out what field everyone's on.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 13, 2015 7:31:00 GMT -5
Just an observation. If, as it currently looks, Castillo and Bradley start off in Pawtucket, our back up center fielder for a day here and there, is coming off of back surgery.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 13, 2015 7:34:54 GMT -5
Just an observation. If, as it currently looks, Castillo and Bradley start off in Pawtucket, our back up center fielder for a day here and there, is coming off of back surgery. This is over-rated. Who cares? The solution is a phone call away. If Mookie were out for any extended time they can get a center fielder the next day. Plus, it's more of an advantage to not have them with the team. Maybe it will stop Farrell from ever sitting Mookie. Those extra games he plays far outweighs a few innings here and there where someone else plays. Plus, if Vic is playing it's because he's healthy and can easily fill in center. If he's not then he's on the DL and Castillo is on the team.
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