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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 4, 2015 15:35:26 GMT -5
Jacob Turner to the White Sox, 1/1.5M. Wouldn't have minded taking a flier, but not the best situation for doing so at the moment.
Oliver Perez to the Nats for 2/7.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Dec 4, 2015 15:52:35 GMT -5
If you're just concerned about two-strike counts, 50.4% of league-wide PAs get there while 55.6% of Middlebrooks' PAs get there. So yeah, looks like your intuition is correct. WMB strikes out a lot. I'm fairly confident that is going to be correlated to getting to 2 strike counts at a better-than-average clip pretty much all the time since you gotta get to 2 before you get to 3.
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 4, 2015 17:39:07 GMT -5
John Lackey to the Cubs.
2/$32M
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 4, 2015 20:07:35 GMT -5
Greinke to Arizona, in a shocker.
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Post by iakovos11 on Dec 4, 2015 20:13:24 GMT -5
WOW! Dodgers & Giants let him get away.
Curious that they didn't get Cueto, but then went all out to get Greinke. Wonder if that was strategic somehow - or just stupid doubling down. 6 year contract - let's see how stupid the money is.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Dec 4, 2015 20:13:35 GMT -5
Greinke to Arizona, in a shocker. Can't wait to hear the money Arizona had to pay to convince him to go there.
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Post by mredsox89 on Dec 4, 2015 20:15:41 GMT -5
WOW! Dodgers & Giants let him get away. Curious that they didn't get Cueto, but then went all out to get Greinke. Wonder if that was strategic somehow - or just stupid doubling down. 6 year contract - let's see how stupid the money is. Wasn't Cueto the one who said no to the supposed 6/120 deal with Zona?
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 4, 2015 20:27:29 GMT -5
Greinke to Arizona, in a shocker. Can't wait to hear the money Arizona had to pay to convince him to go there. assuming it's something along the lines of 6 years 31-33 per
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 4, 2015 20:28:24 GMT -5
Kinda bummed to see Greinke go to such a garbage franchise.
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Post by thursty on Dec 4, 2015 20:33:11 GMT -5
damn - player opt-outs are bad for a team
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Post by steveofbradenton on Dec 4, 2015 20:34:54 GMT -5
That is a shocker about Greinke going to the D-Backs. I really like several of their players, and that will certainly make them interesting. WOW!
Maybe for a Cueto, etc. they will have a bidding war for their signature. The Dodgers especially, and the Giants, are going to be really busy this weekend.
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 4, 2015 20:37:19 GMT -5
“@bnightengale: Zack Greinke receives about $195 million on six year deal from #Dbacks”
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Post by heisenberg on Dec 4, 2015 20:38:07 GMT -5
As much as I'd have liked to see Greinke go to the Giants, I think that team will still win the NL West.
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 4, 2015 20:42:27 GMT -5
Andrew Baggarly @extrabaggs 3m3 minutes ago If Greinke indeed was chasing absolute top dollar, he escapes California's 13.3% top tax rate. Arizona at just 4.54%.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 4, 2015 20:44:28 GMT -5
FAKE! NM
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 4, 2015 20:46:13 GMT -5
Giles for McCullers and Singleton He was the guy we were supposed to get for margot and guerra right? lol Thank god for Dombrowski edit: Evan Drellich says deal is close, those are the guys going back Fake account dude
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Post by heisenberg on Dec 4, 2015 20:50:58 GMT -5
Andrew Baggarly @extrabaggs 3m3 minutes ago If Greinke indeed was chasing absolute top dollar, he escapes California's 13.3% top tax rate. Arizona at just 4.54%. The disparity isn't as great as people make it out to be. He has to pay state income tax in all of the jurisdictions in which he plays: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_taxIn the NL West, he'll still be playing something like 27 games in California - All of which will result in taxable income owed to California.
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 4, 2015 20:54:35 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Sources: Greinke deal is six years, $206M. Deferrals expected.
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Post by radiohix on Dec 4, 2015 20:54:23 GMT -5
6 years, $ 195206mm, or $32.5mm per year David Price for 3 years/93 millions looks like a very good deal.
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Post by heisenberg on Dec 4, 2015 20:58:16 GMT -5
6 years, $ 195206mm, or $32.5mm per year David Price for 3 years/93 millions looks like a very good deal. Greinke's actually going to receive $34 1/3 million / year while Price is "only" getting $30 million / year (Assuming he opts out - Which Greinke kind of just assured that Price will do).
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Post by xanderdu on Dec 4, 2015 20:59:42 GMT -5
6/195 for Greinke
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Post by radiohix on Dec 4, 2015 21:08:31 GMT -5
David Price for 3 years/93 millions looks like a very good deal. Greinke's actually going to receive $34 1/3 million / year while Price is "only" getting $30 million / year (Assuming he opts out - Which Greinke kind of just assured that Price will do). yeah, you're right, I went with the AAV forgetting that he gets paied 30 million/year for the first 3 years but the point of my comment was that this deal makes the opt out of Price a certainty barring injuries of course.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 4, 2015 21:23:01 GMT -5
Andrew Baggarly @extrabaggs 3m3 minutes ago If Greinke indeed was chasing absolute top dollar, he escapes California's 13.3% top tax rate. Arizona at just 4.54%. The disparity isn't as great as people make it out to be. He has to pay state income tax in all of the jurisdictions in which he plays: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_taxIn the NL West, he'll still be playing something like 27 games in California - All of which will result in taxable income owed to California. 27 is a lot less than 100. Now multiply that by 6. Its about 600 games in California vs 162. California also has a higher cost of living in general, on top of that. During the Lester negotiations, it even leaked out that the high tax rate and cost of living turned him off about going to San Francisco. They're also saying 6/206 now for Greinke. I don't see how the Dodgers or Giants realistically beat that with taxes and cost of living factored in.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Dec 4, 2015 21:25:35 GMT -5
The owners are flush with money. I hope the union grinds the sh*t out of them during the next CBA.
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Post by heisenberg on Dec 4, 2015 21:43:35 GMT -5
The disparity isn't as great as people make it out to be. He has to pay state income tax in all of the jurisdictions in which he plays: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_taxIn the NL West, he'll still be playing something like 27 games in California - All of which will result in taxable income owed to California. 27 is a lot less than 100. Now multiply that by 6. Its about 600 games in California vs 162. California also has a higher cost of living in general, on top of that. During the Lester negotiations, it even leaked out that the high tax rate and cost of living turned him off about going to San Francisco. They're also saying 6/206 now for Greinke. I don't see how the Dodgers or Giants realistically beat that with taxes and cost of living factored in. Greinke always struck me as the type who thinks he's smarter than he is. Let's say for a minute that he didn't want to come to San Francisco because of the high cost of living. Did it ever occur to the man that any house he buys here will appreciate far more and far more quickly than any house he'll buy in Arizona? His property appreciation here would likely outstrip any additional income tax he'd be paying. Honestly, these discussions of a few million dollars shouldn't be impacting his decision - Given the size of the contract.
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