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Post by grandsalami on Dec 5, 2015 15:38:45 GMT -5
Buster Olney @buster_ESPN 14m14 minutes ago Diamondbacks have pushed on Shelby Miller in talks with Braves; ATL seemingly focused on OFers, especially Pollock, possible expanded deal.
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 5, 2015 17:39:24 GMT -5
D-Backs looking to be the Padres of '14 this year.
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Post by xanderdu on Dec 5, 2015 17:59:36 GMT -5
Buster Olney @buster_ESPN 14m14 minutes ago Diamondbacks have pushed on Shelby Miller in talks with Braves; ATL seemingly focused on OFers, especially Pollock, possible expanded deal. Be nice if we could get in here and get Pollock somehow. Miller alone isn't worth Pollack. Maybe Kelly and Bradley for Pollock on a straight up deal? Maybe send a piece to AZ to balance the trade for the snakes, with Bradley to Atlanta, and Sox get Pollock? I can dream, can't I?
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Post by xanderdu on Dec 5, 2015 18:03:34 GMT -5
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 16m16 minutes ago #Cubs are actively exploring a trade for one of the top closers, baseball sources say. Can't imagine the Reds or Pirates trading withing the division, so this likely mean Giles, Robertson, or Miller. A trade with the Yankees makes a lot of sense actually.
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 5, 2015 18:56:40 GMT -5
Would you rather have Samardzjia for 5y/$90m or Porcello for 4y/$82.5m?
Steamer projects them to pitch about equally well next year, and Samardzjia is 4 years older...
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Post by iakovos11 on Dec 5, 2015 19:04:26 GMT -5
I think the problem with Porcello is that they messed with his pitch mix last year. Not sure who is responsible for that. He seemed to get back on track at the end of the year. I think he'll be fine this year.
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Post by humanbeingbean on Dec 5, 2015 19:38:09 GMT -5
I think the problem with Porcello is that they messed with his pitch mix last year. Not sure who is responsible for that. He seemed to get back on track at the end of the year. I think he'll be fine this year. Definitely won't hurt that he'll be pitching behind Price.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 5, 2015 19:41:58 GMT -5
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick 16m16 minutes ago #Cubs are actively exploring a trade for one of the top closers, baseball sources say. Can't imagine the Reds or Pirates trading withing the division, so this likely mean Giles, Robertson, or Miller. A trade with the Yankees makes a lot of sense actually. I can see it if the Cubs' package for Chapman is the best. The Reds won't be competing in 2016 anyways. And Chapman might not even be a Cub in 2017 in this scenario.
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Post by xanderdu on Dec 5, 2015 19:48:22 GMT -5
Always been a Porcello fan, and was very happy when we got him last year. He seems to be back on track and we should expect 200 quality innings from him in 2016. I wonder if Nieces departure was Porcello related? I really think he just thought he had to become that guy to earn his extension. Big money plays mind games with a lot of these guys
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 5, 2015 20:15:56 GMT -5
I think the problem with Porcello is that they messed with his pitch mix last year. Not sure who is responsible for that. He seemed to get back on track at the end of the year. I think he'll be fine this year. Definitely won't hurt that he'll be pitching behind Price. It also definitely won't help. To be more precise, it's completely irrelevant.
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Post by humanbeingbean on Dec 5, 2015 20:17:07 GMT -5
Definitely won't hurt that he'll be pitching behind Price. It also definitely won't help. To be more precise, it's completely irrelevant. Not having to be one of "five aces" should ease some pressure off him, but maybe I overestimate that sort of impact.
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Post by iakovos11 on Dec 6, 2015 9:56:38 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 6m6 minutes ago Source: #Orioles, O’Day in agreement on four-year deal, pending physical. @jonheymancbs reported O’s were likely.
Wow.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 6, 2015 11:49:49 GMT -5
O'Day to O's, 4/31.
Madson to Oakland, 3/22.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 6, 2015 11:59:30 GMT -5
Madson's contract is a surprise, he's 35 with a history of arm issues.
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Post by mattpicard on Dec 6, 2015 12:00:48 GMT -5
Yuck to both of those, especially Madson. Dude is 35 and, before 2015, hadn't pitched in MLB since 2011. Billy Beane's made some pretty questionable moves these last couple seasons.
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Post by soxfanatic on Dec 6, 2015 12:03:34 GMT -5
Yeah that Madson deal is a head scratcher. It's not like the A's are going anywhere.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 6, 2015 12:14:58 GMT -5
It's like they sign these guys just to soak up payroll. Can't actually afford anyone good, plus no one wants to play there, but they don't want to go full Marlins and just never pay anyone, so Butler and Madson it is.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Dec 6, 2015 12:15:45 GMT -5
O'Day's deal is a year too long, but it's a solid AAV.
Madson's deal on the other hand... Vomit. How does he get that deal? Seems more like a 2/10-12 type to me.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Dec 6, 2015 12:16:25 GMT -5
Maybe folks just aren't taking into account just how much money these teams have when reviewing these contracts. Or maybe you'll see a big spike in the proportion of players salaries related to revenue ahead of he CBA. Or maybe the union told these misers to statrt ponying up or they can expect a big battle.
Whatever it may be, people may want to reeveluate their overall interpretation of the market.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 6, 2015 12:20:55 GMT -5
O'Day's deal is a year too long, but it's a solid AAV. Madson's deal on the other hand... Vomit. How does he get that deal? Seems more like a 2/10-12 type to me.I mean, that's actually a higher AAV that what he got, and I suspect Oakland has a pay a bit of a premium to convince guys to play in that garbage dump of a park so that Beane can trade them five minutes later.
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Post by soxfanatic on Dec 6, 2015 12:27:10 GMT -5
O'Day's deal is a year too long, but it's a solid AAV. Madson's deal on the other hand... Vomit. How does he get that deal? Seems more like a 2/10-12 type to me.I mean, that's actually a higher AAV that what he got, and I suspect Oakland has a pay a bit of a premium to convince guys to play in that garbage dump of a park so that Beane can trade them five minutes later. No it's not.
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Post by ramireja on Dec 6, 2015 12:27:19 GMT -5
O'Day's deal is a year too long, but it's a solid AAV. Madson's deal on the other hand... Vomit. How does he get that deal? Seems more like a 2/10-12 type to me.I mean, that's actually a higher AAV that what he got, and I suspect Oakland has a pay a bit of a premium to convince guys to play in that garbage dump of a park so that Beane can trade them five minutes later. Um....check your math again
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 6, 2015 12:40:05 GMT -5
I mean, that's actually a higher AAV that what he got, and I suspect Oakland has a pay a bit of a premium to convince guys to play in that garbage dump of a park so that Beane can trade them five minutes later. Um....check your math again
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 6, 2015 13:37:23 GMT -5
Well then. Tweet from O'Day:
Contrary to the news, I have not reached an agreement with the O's yet. I am flattered by all the attention, but reports are premature.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 6, 2015 13:42:01 GMT -5
Dewey defeats Truman.
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