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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 11, 2015 15:39:50 GMT -5
.091/.444/.091 for Hanigan In other words, there is no reason for Hannigan to bat in a close and late game as he cant hit. Either Swihart or another catcher outside the system will be the full time catcher by June 15.
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 11, 2015 15:51:29 GMT -5
Two observations after five games
1- I feel a lot better about the rotation than I did a couple months ago. Might even go on a limb and say its the best in the AL east. Everybody looked solid. If (and its a big if) they all stay healthy, I don't think we have much to worry about.
2- The Yankees are downright awful. Unless they can somehow find a time machine, I can't see the being anything better than a 75 win team. MAX. I know, they alway seem to pull the rabbit out of the hat and stay competitive, but they struggle in all assets of the game.
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Post by soxfan06 on Apr 11, 2015 15:52:45 GMT -5
.091/.444/.091 for Hanigan In other words, there is no reason for Hannigan to bat in a close and late game as he cant hit. Either Swihart or another catcher outside the system will be the full time catcher by June 15. In other words...relax. It's 5 games in and he already has 7 BB.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 11, 2015 16:04:45 GMT -5
Who had Kelly throwing the best start of the first week? If you did, tough luck, he was second to Buchholz. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Nah, given the context (opponent, fact that they needed him to go deep), Kelly's start and it's not close, imo. But yeah, point about the first turn being great - I agree.
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Post by jimoh on Apr 11, 2015 16:07:27 GMT -5
.091/.444/.091 for Hanigan In other words, there is no reason for Hannigan to bat in a close and late game as he cant hit. Either Swihart or another catcher outside the system will be the full time catcher by June 15. Napoli .000 .133 .000. There is no reason for Napoli to bat in a close and late game as he can't hit. Either Shaw or another 1b outside the system will be the full time 1b by June 15. And Shaw is much better prepared to hit mob pitching than Swihart.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 11, 2015 17:00:45 GMT -5
It's very, very early in the season, so there are a few things to keep in mind as this moves on. On the upside: - Regression will kick in, as it always does. That means that Holt won't hit .667 for the year, or Bogaerts .391. It also means that Hanigan won't end up .091 anymore than Napoli will go hitless.
- If Joe Kelly is your 5th starter, you may have better things to worry about than your rotation. Masterson was solid, Miley was fantastic till he got gassed, and even Porcello looked good till he made the wrong pitch to Francouer.
- The team has tremendous depth, with guys like Nava, Holt and even Craig. And how bad would we feel if they were "forced" to bring up Castillo, or if we had to watch Bradley tool around the outfield, or even Brentz swing for the fences?
Is it the perfect team? There are always holes, and this one is no exception. Their primary catching option is out for the season, there's still uncertainty in the bullpen despite some decent performances, and they haven't played the best teams in the division yet, let alone the league. But it's a good start, even if it's just a start.
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Post by radiohix on Apr 11, 2015 17:20:57 GMT -5
![](http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1768107/douchebros.gif) It's always a pleasure to the MFY...Always!
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 11, 2015 17:24:40 GMT -5
An important disclaimer: it's still early. Even more important disclaimer: the lineups the Sox have faced have been bad (or worse). It's tough to know for sure what they have yet ...
That said, Miley looked better than I expected. He throws harder than I really thought he did, and he's got good stuff. Buchholz looked like Good Clay, and we know that guy can get anyone out. I'm still concerned about Masterson against an MLB lineup, but he seems to think as he gets going in the season, he'll add a few MPH to his fastball. And Kelly's got all the ability in the world.
The rest of the team that's on display has been as advertised: powerful and DEEP. That team they put out there was sooooo much better than the one the Yankees could put out there. This is important because today's game was a microcosm of what happens to a team over the course of a season ... the extreme length of yesterday's game forced the teams to rely on their depth just like the extreme length of the season does. And I would argue that this Sox team is just better than any other team when you start getting into the 23-28th men on the team. It's great to see them start well, but in a way, this is a team designed for July and August.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 11, 2015 17:47:20 GMT -5
An important disclaimer: it's still early. Even more important disclaimer: the lineups the Sox have faced have been bad (or worse). This is the most important thing to keep in mind. Let's see how our pitchers fare against teams like the Blue Jays before getting all ecstatic.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 11, 2015 18:07:44 GMT -5
In other words, there is no reason for Hannigan to bat in a close and late game as he cant hit. Either Swihart or another catcher outside the system will be the full time catcher by June 15. In other words...relax. It's 5 games in and he already has 7 BB. Actually Hannigan has 5 BB to date, but I agree that it is early. He was acquired to backup Vasquez who is lost for the season. He has had an OPS of 542 and 647 the last two seasons which is why I suggested that he is not an offensive theat and should be pitch hit for, particularly when you have such a deep bench of guys like Nava, Holt, Craig, etc. I do believe that the Red Sox will need a full time catcher by June 15.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 11, 2015 18:19:25 GMT -5
With the first pick in the 2016 MLB Draft the New York Yankees select...
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Apr 11, 2015 18:34:04 GMT -5
With the first pick in the 2016 MLB Draft the New York Yankees select... Early returns show that the Phillies may compete with the Yankees for that pick.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 11, 2015 19:08:49 GMT -5
In other words, there is no reason for Hannigan to bat in a close and late game as he cant hit. Either Swihart or another catcher outside the system will be the full time catcher by June 15. Napoli .000 .133 .000. There is no reason for Napoli to bat in a close and late game as he can't hit. Either Shaw or another 1b outside the system will be the full time 1b by June 15. And Shaw is much better prepared to hit mob pitching than Swihart. Napoli can't hit? I'm going to remind you how dumb of a comment that is in about 30 days.
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Post by danr on Apr 11, 2015 19:12:18 GMT -5
This may be the worst Yankee team in any living person's memory. I don't see how they can correct things in the near term. I think they and Tampa will compete vigorously for last place in the East.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 11, 2015 19:12:49 GMT -5
He was joking. Look at the context
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 11, 2015 19:25:32 GMT -5
He was joking. Look at the context Ok. Sarcasm meter not working. I'll blame it on Clode.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 11, 2015 19:45:32 GMT -5
I'm watching the replay now. Kelly's fastball looks nasty on tv. It's almost like my eyes play tricks on me watching it, It looks slower than the gun readings just by how much it moves. He doesn't command it well, but that's probably the only thing holding him back from his cy young prediction. As long as he's keeping it low and in the strike zone he should be a solid starter.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 11, 2015 19:48:15 GMT -5
This may be the worst Yankee team in any living person's memory. I don't see how they can correct things in the near term. I think they and Tampa will compete vigorously for last place in the East. I dunno, man ... there were some BAD Yankee teams in the late 80s before Gene Michael rescued that team during Steinbrenner's suspension. I think it was the 1990 team that lost 90+ games. I've been as harsh as anyone about this current Yankee organization, but they still have a ways to fall before they get that low. If Tanaka gets hurt, though, all bets are off. Any scenario that yields even a marginally competitive team this year starts with good health and production from Tanaka and at least a couple of Pineda, Sabathia, and Eovaldi. That's doubtful enough as it is (Sabathia looks cooked), but if Tanaka's elbow gives out, that team could fall pretty far.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 11, 2015 20:02:47 GMT -5
Rusney Castillo Pulled from game
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 11, 2015 21:43:50 GMT -5
.091/.444/.091 for Hanigan In other words, there is no reason for Hannigan to bat in a close and late game as he cant hit. Either Swihart or another catcher outside the system will be the full time catcher by June 15. When an average or subpar hitter is walked 37% of the time, it's very unusual for him to be hitting for any kind of average. It takes pitches in the zone to get hits on. In this SSS, the .444 OBP more than outweighs the .091 SA in terms of average catcher offense.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 11, 2015 22:27:48 GMT -5
Overall, it looks like Redsox starters have some decent control this year. I don't see a lot of walks coming from this group and they generally are keeping the ball down in the zone. They should keep the ball in the park most games and within range of a quality start. With this lineup that means a lot of wins in itself.
The excess OF talent has got to be getting other teams attention. Having Castillo in AAA for long just seems unfair.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 12, 2015 6:31:01 GMT -5
An important disclaimer: it's still early. Even more important disclaimer: the lineups the Sox have faced have been bad (or worse). This is the most important thing to keep in mind. Let's see how our pitchers fare against teams like the Blue Jays before getting all ecstatic. I wonder when we'll get a chance to watch the Sox play a team w playoff aspirations? Hmm, what about that National team coming to town for the home opener. Do they count?
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 12, 2015 6:38:02 GMT -5
I wonder when we'll get a chance to watch the Sox play a team w playoff aspirations? Hmm, what about that National team coming to town for the home opener. Do they count? Well, I hear they have some injuries presently, and even when fully healthy their roster is not really built to provide a DH, so they're not quite as hard a test as the Blue Jays are, but perhaps a good warmup thereto.
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Post by GyIantosca on Apr 12, 2015 7:49:59 GMT -5
This is the difference between the Sox and others we play a 19 inning game and Farrell can use his bench the next day game with good quality players and easily win. So far the bullpen is a little shaky and I don't know when Khoji comes back what he does closing.
I think they have good young kids that can close. I hope someone pans out with the PawSox.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 12, 2015 9:16:38 GMT -5
I wonder when we'll get a chance to watch the Sox play a team w playoff aspirations? Hmm, what about that National team coming to town for the home opener. Do they count? Well, I hear they have some injuries presently, and even when fully healthy their roster is not really built to provide a DH, so they're not quite as hard a test as the Blue Jays are, but perhaps a good warmup thereto. The Nationals rotation is far superior to the Jays though.
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