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Post by TX on Apr 28, 2015 19:02:48 GMT -5
I'm really hoping the front office has a chat with farrell if he keeps this up. FO: 'We gave you 5 perfectly good 4-5 starters, why haven't you been able to succeed with them' Farrell: 'because they're perfectly good 4-5 starters so we're missing 3 better guys who will go a month between bad starts opposed to every other one' FO: 'and why is our 20 million dollar man so wretched?' Farrell: 'He's not wretched, this is who he is. This is always been who he is' FO: 'Let us guess: A perfectly fine 4th starter' Farrell: 'correct' |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2015 19:06:05 GMT -5
No. But I think a few DFAs are coming Gonna have to move some guys off the 40 man to bring in Hamels and Papelbon for the weekend. I kiiiiiiid... |
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Post by soxfan06 on Apr 28, 2015 19:09:35 GMT -5
Our pitching is truly unreal
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Post by benjaminbuttons on Apr 28, 2015 19:09:49 GMT -5
Sox are lucky to even be sitting where they are. I dunno how many games they've won due to other teams puking all over themselves defensively, but its a lot.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2015 19:09:58 GMT -5
Is it just me or are the hits off Mujica and Varvaro much harder than those off Buchholz?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 28, 2015 19:10:43 GMT -5
I'm really hoping the front office has a chat with farrell if he keeps this up. FO: 'We gave you 5 perfectly good 4-5 starters, why haven't you been able to succeed with them' Farrell: 'because they're perfectly good 4-5 starters so we're missing 3 better guys who will go a month between bad starts opposed to every other one' FO: 'and why is our 20 million dollar man so wretched?' Farrell: 'He's not wretched, this is who he is. This is always been who he is' FO: 'Let us guess: A perfectly fine 4th starter' Farrell: 'correct' Is John Farrell your father? You're the only person who seems to think he's an awesome manager. |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2015 19:11:17 GMT -5
Sox are lucky to even be sitting where they are. I dunno how many games they've won due to other teams puking all over themselves defensively, but its a lot. 6. So far. |
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 28, 2015 19:11:26 GMT -5
It's hilarious that only after the two walks and the two balks does Farrell get somebody warming in the pen. Well, jmei you need innings from someone. Who are you going to bring in other than wasting Tazawa or Ogando that you feel confident will do the job?..and for how many innings? Hey, we are not confident of starting or closing or stopping the bleeding. That is a true tri-fecta. For starters, Buch will be better (maybe), Kelly is a possible stud in the making and Porcello is a 4 or 5...consistent but not great. We took a chance that Porcello was evolving and tried to catch him on the upside. It may turn our to be a poor assessment at $20 per. The rest of the rotation could quite easily be discarded or sold for pennies. The bullpen was a cheaper effort ....spend on hope that if you sign enough cheapies, someone or a few would emerge due to presumed variance in that niche. But, had we signed Miller, that would certainly have helped pitching wise and as an asset if we needed to continue the re-structuring. He is now worth much more than Koji...especially going forward. "The ocean was angry that day, my friends." |
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 28, 2015 19:13:12 GMT -5
Farrell will go before Ben. Ben's philosophies align more with ownership and they haven't forgot how quickly he turned a train wreck into a World Series team, in spite of many of Farrell's questionable moves.
Yes, we don't have an ace. But we have plenty of trade chips and money to spend in the offseason. They aren't saddled with many bad contracts other than Craig and have room to manuever. This is a bridge year. Masterson and Buchholz can be let go after this season if necessary and they can go after other guys.
Sandoval and Hanley look pretty good at the plate and Hanley's D will get better in time. They are playing it safe for now and are unlikely to pursue foolish trades.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2015 19:13:20 GMT -5
It's hilarious that only after the two walks and the two balks does Farrell get somebody warming in the pen. Well, jmei you need innings from someone. Who are you going to bring in other than wasting Tazawa or Ogando that you feel confident will do the job?..and for how many innings? If it were up to jmei Buchholz would be eating those innings. Farrell should have thought about this question before hooking Buchholz. |
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2015 19:14:44 GMT -5
Sandoval and Hanley look pretty good at the plate We just haven't faced many LHPs recently, else you wouldn't be saying this about Sandoval. |
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 28, 2015 19:15:13 GMT -5
It's hilarious that only after the two walks and the two balks does Farrell get somebody warming in the pen. Well, jmei you need innings from someone. Who are you going to bring in other than wasting Tazawa or Ogando that you feel confident will do the job?..and for how many innings? Last series people were moaning and complaining of his slow hook. And now people are complaining about a quick hook. You can't complain about both. |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2015 19:15:52 GMT -5
Don't worry Dudes, we've got 5 innings to get 5 runs. Just gotta hold them. And Farrell's just getting to the better arms in the pen,
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2015 19:17:05 GMT -5
And Farrell's just getting to the better arms in the pen, You mean Breslow? |
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 28, 2015 19:18:14 GMT -5
I'm still a huge Ben fan and a mildly supportive Farrell guy. Indications were that we signed some steady # 3s, not a bunch of #5s. If you can call Buchholz steady ever. At least he's really good some of the time. My concern from day one with this team has been the pen. I still think the rotation pulls out of it, especially with 3 guys in Pawtucket who can maybe help us ready.
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Post by TX on Apr 28, 2015 19:18:50 GMT -5
FO: 'We gave you 5 perfectly good 4-5 starters, why haven't you been able to succeed with them' Farrell: 'because they're perfectly good 4-5 starters so we're missing 3 better guys who will go a month between bad starts opposed to every other one' FO: 'and why is our 20 million dollar man so wretched?' Farrell: 'He's not wretched, this is who he is. This is always been who he is' FO: 'Let us guess: A perfectly fine 4th starter' Farrell: 'correct' Is John Farrell your father? You're the only person who seems to think he's an awesome manager. There's a possibility I'm right and revered thoughts about our GM and the pitching staff he assembled are way off. |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2015 19:18:56 GMT -5
Well, jmei you need innings from someone. Who are you going to bring in other than wasting Tazawa or Ogando that you feel confident will do the job?..and for how many innings? Last series people were moaning and complaining of his slow hook. And now people are complaining about a quick hook. You can't complain about both. Small sample. |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2015 19:19:57 GMT -5
And Farrell's just getting to the better arms in the pen, You mean Breslow? I believe John calls him "The Breslow." |
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 28, 2015 19:20:14 GMT -5
Last series people were moaning and complaining of his slow hook. And now people are complaining about a quick hook. You can't complain about both. Small sample. Still people complained since last year of his slow hook. Now the same people are complaining about a quick hook. Can't have it both ways |
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Post by philarhody on Apr 28, 2015 19:21:20 GMT -5
Everyone needs to shut the f**k up. This organization is strong. We have the farm to trade for two "aces" if we wanted to. This **** is a process and our staff has been as unlucky as possible an 1/8th of the way through the season and yet we are right there in the most competitive division in baseball. So R-E-L-A-X. And shut the f**k up.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2015 19:21:48 GMT -5
I have in the past been guilty of complaining about slow hooks. I have since read the research ( mglbaseball.wordpress.com/ ), apologize for my past sins, and promise not to do it again (unless the pitchers are giving up too many walks / HRs). |
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2015 19:28:03 GMT -5
Everyone needs to shut the f**k up. This organization is strong. We have the farm to trade for two "aces" if we wanted to. This **** is a process and our staff has been as unlucky as possible an 1/8th of the way through the season and yet we are right there in the most competitive division in baseball. So R-E-L-A-X. And shut the f**k up. Wow - I didn't know my priest was on rhis forum. I guess it's true - baseball IS a spiritual experience. |
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 28, 2015 19:30:02 GMT -5
baseball is entertainment and this will be entertaining considering:
1. This was the game Steven Wright was supposed to go 5 innings in relief ... if he weren't on the way back to AAA.
2. Who knows which reinforcement we will see on WED
3. Holt, Leon, Nava, Craig ... never ever pitched. Which is a problem on a team like this. Jeff Bianchi would add value to this bench.
A very entertaining pitching staff.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2015 19:32:21 GMT -5
3. Holt, Leon, Nava, Craig ... never ever pitched. Which is a problem on a team like this. Jeff Bianchi would add value to this bench. Bring back the Mike Carp knuckleball! |
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Post by soxfan06 on Apr 28, 2015 19:33:35 GMT -5
Of course we only score 1 run with the bases loaded and no outs...god this damn team
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