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Post by mgoetze on May 30, 2015 20:28:38 GMT -5
... I don't know who is on this FOX crew but the color guy is a good change of pace. Eric Karros. Who just said, "You used to go to the games just to watch Tom Goodwin run." Right. I assure you, not even Goodwin's mother went to any games to watch him run. Then again earlier he said "When you're going to arbitration you need that hit and that RBI" so at least he realizes that he needs to justify the bad stats he is using.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 30, 2015 20:29:25 GMT -5
I don't know about the rest of the year but right now they need to change that front office because this offseason is very important. They have a lot of decisions to make and they need to a new GM to do it. This offseason is gonna be very important if this keeps up. We already know nothing is gonna change unless they promote a couple more guys or trade deadline but I don't want to make a deal for the sake of it.
Thank god they are not tied up in a lot of contracts. They have three Pablo,Hanley and Porcello over two years. Miley is cheap to me. But we can't have a bad offseason it will kill us, we are clearing more money we'll see. It just sucks it really does when other teams are doing more with less.
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Post by grandsalami on May 30, 2015 20:31:02 GMT -5
P.S. if the Red Sox had decided to DFA the entire starting rotation on Opening Day and merely promoted the Pawsox starters to Boston how would their record differ? The same
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 30, 2015 20:32:05 GMT -5
I don't know about the rest of the year but right now they need to change that front office because this offseason is very important. They have a lot of decisions to make and they need to a new GM to do it. This offseason is gonna be very important if this keeps up. We already know nothing is gonna change unless they promote a couple more guys or trade deadline but I don't want to make a deal for the sake of it. Thank god they are not tied up in a lot of contracts. They have three Pablo,Hanley and Porcello over two years. Miley is cheap to me. But we can't have a bad offseason it will kill us, we are clearing more money we'll see. It just sucks it really does when other teams are doing more with less. Well said. I don't trust Cherington's judgement any more. Someone else should be making these crucial decisions.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 20:32:54 GMT -5
Billy Beane might be the only man who could fix a mess of an organization like the Red Sox are at present. Unfortunately, he's already said "no" once before and now he's a part owner of the A's. Dave Dombrowski would be a great get as well. But, he currently holds every title imaginable with the Tigers.
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Post by mgoetze on May 30, 2015 20:38:26 GMT -5
The front office haters really need to show their posts from before the season warning us that the offense would be horrible and score less than 4 runs per game.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 30, 2015 20:40:50 GMT -5
because this offseason is very important. How on earth can you know this right now? The outcomes for this season literally still range anywhere between winning the World Series and finishing in last place in the AL. IT'S MAY.
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Post by mgoetze on May 30, 2015 20:41:20 GMT -5
Ross to Pawtucket after this game?
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Post by johnmark on May 30, 2015 20:41:55 GMT -5
Wright and Rodriguez is a start. I say call Johnson up to go with Clay and pick a 5th and see what happens. The staff that Ben put together is not as talented as who they have/have in the minors.
i think the more likely route they will go is to call up Craig and activate Victorino and hope for a turnaround into the staff.
With the 7th pick in the 2016 MLB draft the Red Sox select.....
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 20:42:55 GMT -5
because this offseason is very important. How on earth can you know this right now? Shouldn't EVERY offseason be very important? Or, was this supposed to be a "bridge year" and management just forgot to tell the fans?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 30, 2015 20:46:19 GMT -5
How on earth can you know this right now? Shouldn't EVERY offseason be very important? Or, was this supposed to be a "bridge year" and management just forgot to tell the fans? Fair point on the first part - would've been a much better point to make. No idea what the point of the second part is (seems ton contradict the first part).
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Post by cheers on May 30, 2015 20:46:56 GMT -5
I'm not arguing against both a 2 AB sample and a 3 AB sample being relatively meaningless. And I never argued against sabermetric standards et al. Look again which sentence of yours I didn't agree with. The argument a 3 AB sample a year ago means more than a 2 AB sample today (or the other way around) just came off totally wrong to me, and I stand by that. As much as I respect your knowledge of sabermetric aspects and value what info it can give, recently I really am perplexed how radical you use these infos as the only truth. While I love how this game get's analyzed with the numbers and how much info they provide, I really think sometimes it get's forgotten that it's still being played by human beings and sudden changes in performance (outside normal regression or progression norms) can happen. It seems to me that every single little move that's made or not made get's analyzed how it stands sabermetricely. I think many of the decisions aren't being made only based on sabermetric evaluations, and I think that's not necessary a mistake. You have to find the right mix .this... mgoetze's grasp of numbers is exceptional. His interpretation of said numbers isn't quite infallible. Occasionally, stats are misleading, and easily manipulated. Perhaps, not so occasionally. No, I'm not going to give stats to support my statement.
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Post by grandsalami on May 30, 2015 20:50:07 GMT -5
The front office haters really need to show their posts from before the season warning us that the offense would be horrible and score less than 4 runs per game.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 30, 2015 20:50:09 GMT -5
Good to see the boys plan to compete until the last out tonight.
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Post by redsox4242 on May 30, 2015 20:50:35 GMT -5
Ross to Pawtucket after this game? Lets hope so....
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Post by Guidas on May 30, 2015 20:51:25 GMT -5
The front office haters really need to show their posts from before the season warning us that the offense would be horrible and score less than 4 runs per game. Hey, I picked this team to win 84 games and I was ridiculed pretty widely for it, but even I'm not calling for a new GM. And I won't. Unless they have another losing season.
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Post by mgoetze on May 30, 2015 20:58:06 GMT -5
Why was Barnes in this game? Breslow has only pitched one inning in the last 4 days!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 20:59:50 GMT -5
Shouldn't EVERY offseason be very important? Or, was this supposed to be a "bridge year" and management just forgot to tell the fans? Fair point on the first part - would've been a much better point to make. No idea what the point of the second part is (seems ton contradict the first part). That actually IS the point. Is there any front office in all of baseball that suffers more from what best could be diagnosed as cognitive dissonance? Two years after dumping $250 million worth of headache we take on $400 million in new headache. For years we'd been looking for a good defensive shortstop. We sign and develop one, only to trade him away. It's appropriate that Bryce Brentz is part of this organization - Since shooting yourself in the foot seems to have become a Red Sox tradition.
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Post by mgoetze on May 30, 2015 21:00:53 GMT -5
The front office haters really need to show their posts from before the season warning us that the offense would be horrible and score less than 4 runs per game. Hey, I picked this team to win 84 games and I was ridiculed pretty widely for it, but even I'm not calling for a new GM. But as I remember it that was more because you don't believe a good offense can compensate mediocre pitching rather than thinking the offense would suck, or am I mischaracterizing your position?
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Post by benjaminbuttons on May 30, 2015 21:05:06 GMT -5
Cy Kelly starts tomorrow, let's see if he can save his job...
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Post by mgoetze on May 30, 2015 21:07:29 GMT -5
There's still this to be said in favor of Wade Miley - the game lasted less than 3 hours.
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Post by Guidas on May 30, 2015 21:11:54 GMT -5
Hey, I picked this team to win 84 games and I was ridiculed pretty widely for it, but even I'm not calling for a new GM. But as I remember it that was more because you don't believe a good offense can compensate mediocre pitching rather than thinking the offense would suck, or am I mischaracterizing your position? Correct. I assumed the putricity of the pitching could not be surmounted by career average performances by the offense. But I also believe if a team with this payroll has three out of four losing seasons the GM should lose his job. The manager too. Even if that outlier year was a World Seies win. But we're not there yet, and hopefully won't be.
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Post by grandsalami on May 30, 2015 21:15:02 GMT -5
“@alexspeier: Red Sox get shut out in their penultimate May game, have major league-worst 79 runs and 2.8 R/G this month. No other team averages <3/game.”
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Post by Guidas on May 30, 2015 21:21:07 GMT -5
I'll add that when both Friedman and Maddon were available in the off-season I advocated for acquiring both, most strongly for Maddon. If I was in John Henry's position and this ends up being another losing season in Oct I'd fire Cherrington and Farrell, fly to Cali, offer Beane twice his current salary and increase his ownership position by 1% (although even matching it by giving him that piece of Boston over Oakland would likely nearly double his equity value). Beane's daughter's an adult now so "watching her grow up" should be less of an issue, now.
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Post by mgoetze on May 30, 2015 21:23:39 GMT -5
I'll add that when both Friedman and Maddon were available in the off-season I advocated for acquiring both, most strongly for Maddon. If I was in John Henry's position and this ends up being another losing season in Oct I'd fire Cherrington and Farrell, fly to Cali, offer Beane twice his current salary and increase his ownership position by 1% (although even matching it by giving him that piece of Boston over Oakland would likely nearly double his equity value). Beane's daughter's an adult now so "watching her grow up" should be less of an issue, now. Oh man... Beane would totally drive this board crazy. Can you imagine what people would be screaming here if the Sox pulled off something like the Donaldson trade?
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