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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 28, 2015 20:38:16 GMT -5
Touche on Brock. If he were a 2b I'd think of him more as an all-star. He doesn't have the power you normally associate with a corner OF, but the way the guy plugs in every hole is extremely admirable. Even though he's lefty, if Sandoval doesn't figure out his issues against lefties, I'd have no hesitation seeing Holt at 3b against a tough lefty, which is kind of a weird thing to say. So you think that Holt isn't as good as he could be if he only played 1 position instead of 7? I think with him, I throw away all the positional adjustments when judging him because he's SO valuable precisely because he's adequate to very good at 7 positions. That's not even remotely what I was saying., I'm saying if he started at any of the corner positions, you wouldn't look at him as an all-star type player. He doesn't have the power those positions demand. If he were strictly a 2b, he'd be one of the better 2b in the league, worthy of consideration. The fact that he is the supreme utility man makes him even more valuable for the Sox, especially when you consider that he would be the backup at any position, and so much better than "replacement level". I wasn't knocking him or touting his "all-star" credentials, only saying that his offense is more valuable for 2b than elsewhere which is kind of obvious.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 28, 2015 20:39:16 GMT -5
Meanwhile, kudos to Rodriguez, showing the other starters how it's done.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 28, 2015 20:40:04 GMT -5
This guy is a waste we got. Because he hits lefty? He's here? What a joke.
There you go to all the news people who question if the Sox can develope a pitcher.
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Post by hammerhead on May 28, 2015 20:42:23 GMT -5
A great comment from E-Rod that I heard Castiglione say on the pre-game was that E-Rod thought he should have been in the Big Leagues last season. There's nothing wrong with a little cockiness...
He's lost a little zip off the fastball here in the 6th
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 28, 2015 20:42:48 GMT -5
So, a guy with this much talent that pitches at the pace of Wade Miley? Yes, please!
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Post by jimed14 on May 28, 2015 20:43:30 GMT -5
ERod looks like everything I hoped for from Doubront - a David Price.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 28, 2015 20:43:59 GMT -5
Man, how can they realistically send Eduardo down after this? Changing your plans based on a 5-7 inning sample isn't really a good process, it's more the sort of thing Farrell would advocate for. ... but maybe I could forgive them just this once. No, but change your plan based on the skills and performance Rodriguez has shown since joining the organization, plus this start, plus the general ineptitude of the Red Sox rotation to this point in the season seems pretty reasonable.
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Post by youngbillrussell on May 28, 2015 20:44:47 GMT -5
Arguably the best start from a sox starter this season.
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Post by jmei on May 28, 2015 20:47:13 GMT -5
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Post by soxfan06 on May 28, 2015 20:49:48 GMT -5
Rusney has been JBJ 2014 bad since his call up.
Hopefully that changes soon.
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 28, 2015 20:49:54 GMT -5
Arguably the best start from a sox starter this season. Oh, I don't know, there have been a few very good ones from Buchholz for one. This one is very good, and no doubt it lets Rodriguez know that he belongs, but that consistency thing matters also, as others have mentioned. Add: Cleaning a small pond we have and I can barely go outside to do a little work, come back in and there are two outs. This kid is dealing. Coming to you from the great northwest
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Post by mgoetze on May 28, 2015 20:50:35 GMT -5
So guys do you remember when out of the first 20 or so pitchers we faced only one had a QS against us?
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Post by soxcentral on May 28, 2015 20:51:53 GMT -5
So, Joe Kelly has 3 options left according to this site.....just sayin'.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 28, 2015 20:52:29 GMT -5
So you think that Holt isn't as good as he could be if he only played 1 position instead of 7? I think with him, I throw away all the positional adjustments when judging him because he's SO valuable precisely because he's adequate to very good at 7 positions. That's not even remotely what I was saying., I'm saying if he started at any of the corner positions, you wouldn't look at him as an all-star type player. He doesn't have the power those positions demand. If he were strictly a 2b, he'd be one of the better 2b in the league, worthy of consideration.He plays in the same league as Cano, Pedroia, Altuve, Dozier and Kipnis. In no scenario is he worthy of all-star consideration.
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Post by m1keyboots on May 28, 2015 20:54:23 GMT -5
I would have to put it out there. Who didn't expect something like this through 6 innings with rodriguez's stuff/commamd? Then again I'm not ready to give up on key yet. Masterson was a train wreck. Kelly has had 4 outing where he's put it together or been great worth it to me for 900,000.
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Post by Guidas on May 28, 2015 20:55:07 GMT -5
Actually, I don't even need to see him hit to assert confidently that he will be an All Star outfielder. In Japan.
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Post by benjaminbuttons on May 28, 2015 20:57:37 GMT -5
Defense has to love playing behind this kid
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Post by redsox4242 on May 28, 2015 21:00:13 GMT -5
Great defense, ladies and gentlemen we have ourselves an ace. Rodriguez has a nasty slider!!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 28, 2015 21:07:20 GMT -5
That's not even remotely what I was saying., I'm saying if he started at any of the corner positions, you wouldn't look at him as an all-star type player. He doesn't have the power those positions demand. If he were strictly a 2b, he'd be one of the better 2b in the league, worthy of consideration.He plays in the same league as Cano, Pedroia, Altuve, Dozier and Kipnis. In no scenario is he worthy of all-star consideration. He'd be worthy of consideration. A 2b with an OPS around .825 merits consideration. He'd be on the outer edge of the discussion, and I wouldn't put him on the team, but he'd still be one of the better 2b in the league. Just because he'd be worthy of consideration doesn't mean that he should be an all-star.
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Post by benjaminbuttons on May 28, 2015 21:10:42 GMT -5
Was that a replay of the teixeira HBP that deflected off Hanigan from earlier in the year?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 28, 2015 21:16:30 GMT -5
He plays in the same league as Cano, Pedroia, Altuve, Dozier and Kipnis. In no scenario is he worthy of all-star consideration. He'd be worthy of consideration. A 2b with an OPS around .825 merits consideration. He'd be on the outer edge of the discussion, and I wouldn't put him on the team, but he'd still be one of the better 2b in the league. Just because he'd be worthy of consideration doesn't mean that he should be an all-star. An .825 OPS in just over 100 PAs, versus a .707 OPS for his career. This is a silly.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 28, 2015 21:16:58 GMT -5
i'd like to see E-Rod have a shot at a complete game. Does Farell recognize the history tonight? Don't take the kid out ...
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 28, 2015 21:17:07 GMT -5
Good to see the Sox regaining the ol' "other team plays like garbage" mojo ...
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Post by soxfan06 on May 28, 2015 21:17:20 GMT -5
Now that we are up at least 5, please don't waste a Tazawa appearance unless ABSOLUTELY necessary.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 28, 2015 21:19:20 GMT -5
He'd be worthy of consideration. A 2b with an OPS around .825 merits consideration. He'd be on the outer edge of the discussion, and I wouldn't put him on the team, but he'd still be one of the better 2b in the league. Just because he'd be worthy of consideration doesn't mean that he should be an all-star. An .825 OPS in just over 100 PAs, versus a .707 OPS for his career. This is a silly. C'mon Fenway. You know he was hitting well last year until he got hurt, and he's hitting well so far this year. If he played every day, he'd probably give you more of what you're seeing now, albeit with an OPS probably 50 - 75 points lower. As far as career value, to make an all-star team which I'm NOT suggesting that he should be on, a guy having a good half season should get consideration for the game. It doesn't have to be a career thing. Ortiz has had a great career, but would anybody consider him for the All Star game this year? Of course not.
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