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Jun 3, 2016 17:18:44 GMT -5
Post by ericmvan on Jun 3, 2016 17:18:44 GMT -5
I have another time travel sci-fi movie coming up soon to watch - Synchronicity. Have you seen it Eric? No, but I'm very curious about it. I cannot tell whether the negative reports are warranted or clueless; I'm hoping the latter. Let me know what you think!
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Jun 9, 2016 14:19:15 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Jun 9, 2016 14:19:15 GMT -5
Here's the trailer for Spaceman. Hope it's awesome.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 22, 2016 6:51:53 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 17, 2016 14:41:26 GMT -5
Awesome new series on Netflix - Stranger Things. A sci-fi throwback to the 80s with hints of ET, Goonies, Stand By Me, but much darker and scarier. Winona Rider is the mom and she's brilliant but the kids are even better. And the soundtrack is a huge bonus. I'm halfway through and will finish up today. Currently has a 9.3 on IMDB.
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Jul 29, 2016 11:20:06 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Jul 29, 2016 11:20:06 GMT -5
I have another time travel sci-fi movie coming up soon to watch - Synchronicity. Have you seen it Eric? No, but I'm very curious about it. I cannot tell whether the negative reports are warranted or clueless; I'm hoping the latter. Let me know what you think! Just watched it. It's worth watching, but not like Primer or anything. It has some cool 80s sci-fi music though that reminds me of Blade Runner. I have Primer as a 10 and would say this is a 7. The paradoxes in this one might be plot holes, but I'd have to watch it a few more times to figure it out.
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Oct 5, 2016 11:11:31 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Oct 5, 2016 11:11:31 GMT -5
This show is going to be so awesome. After watching episode 1, I cannot wait for more. I have the movie on my watch list too.
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Oct 6, 2016 0:01:41 GMT -5
Post by soxjim on Oct 6, 2016 0:01:41 GMT -5
In some deep true sense, there's no such thing as just a film. There are only combinations of a given film and the brains watching them. A film alone has no more meaning than a glassful of sand. It needs a watching brain to acquire meaning. To assess any film, you have to start with the general critical and audience reception. If that is overwhelmingly positive, and if the proponents can articulate what makes the film great beyond the level of mere passive enjoyment, I think that this establishes the film's greatness as an objective fact. Now, it is often interesting and insightful to look at the reactions of those who disagree, those for whom a film doesn't work. But it's also important to understand that when you're in that minority position, your resistance to the film is not about the film but about you and your brain and your mismatch to the film. The best critically regarded film of 2002, and one of the 10 most critically acclaimed of the 21st century, was Russian Ark. It's the only film I've ever given up on after 20 minutes because I was bored to the point of excruciation. But I don't deny or disagree that it's a masterpiece of some sort; I would only add the footnote that it doesn't work for people who have zero knowledge of Russian history and fine art (and that critics are overrating it somewhat because even the average movie lover is likely to have less such knowledge than them). More prosaically, The Godfather just misses my personal top 200 films, but that doesn't mean I think it's in any way overrated. That it's my #205 does not mean it shouldn't be the consensus #1. It is in fact very rare that you can point at a film that people think is great and make a rational argument that it actually isn't. (I think I've tried to do it just once: it's my Amazon review of We Need to Talk About Kevin.)When a film has a range of reactions, and the folks who love it can articulate why it's great per the above, then I think the film is, in one dimension, as great as they think it is, but it has to lose stature in degree to the narrowness of its appeal. I just gave Guy Maddin's new film, The Forbidden Room, a 10 at IMDB, and ranked it 3rd among my films of 2015. But it is obviously going to elicit that reaction from just a very small percentage of viewers. This sort of thing happens in every art form. Most people think John Coltrane's "Ascension" sounds like noise, but some of us think it's glorious music and would put it in our top 5 desert island disks. You cannot negate my reaction to "Ascension" or LOTR by saying it sounds like noise to you, or that they put you to sleep, and you can especially not argue against my explanation of their greatness with your reaction. Which, again, actually says nothing about the recording or the film, beyond "not everyone likes it"--which we already know. When you're in the minority on a film, it can be fascinating (both for you and its champions) to figure out why. That's how we learn how films and brains interact. But those conversations only happen when you acknowledge the majority reaction and are interested in introspecting about why you didn't share it. The reward, BTW, is that you get a better sense of what future films might disappoint you a bit. For instance, I am relatively cool towards not just The Godfather but The Dark Knight, The Prophet, and Sicario--all films that are largely studies of the nature of evil or sociopathy. It just doesn't seem to engage me as much as it does others (a theory I worked out with my godson is that I didn't have anyone who treated me with even a glimmer of meanness or cruelty growing up, so my brain just never got wired to work at understanding people like that). Neither did I but I like the "well acclaimed" movies of evil or sociopathy like Silence of the Lambs. I had noticed when I was young, the older people seemed to be more cranky regarding sports and movies and other things. Up until my 30's-- if there was a big blockkbuster that was pretty-well acclaimed I ended up really liking it too. However I find myself slipping as now I'm much older and when I went to see Lord of the Rings (and another sequel) along with Avatar - I walked out on all 3. What's good is I liked some of the recent movies that are thrillers so I haven't;t lost it completely yet. But I think I know what you're saying about "the reward." I disliked a lot "No Country for Old Men" because of the ending. I'll watch bits and pieces up to this day but won't watch the endings. I get why people like it. I get why people liked "The 300" which I hated. I get why Ghandi got Best Picture over Raiders of the Lost Ark though Raiders is my number 1 movie ever.
My friends tried to explain why Lord of the Rings was os special- one thing that stuck with me was one trying to explain the settings and costumes were spectacular etc. I don't rate that specific stuff and overall that doesn't do much for me. It's the characters I find fascinating. It could be just one cool Jack Nicholson line like in Prizzi's Honor "Do I ice her? DO I marry her?" Or all his over-the-top scenes and lines in The Shining. Or the batman movie in which Pane is telling batman how he "owns the dark" as he is giving Batman a complete beatdown. I generally ending up loving action thrillers or quality movies like the Martian Movie or Gravity. I don't care how they built the set in Lord of the Rings, I just found the characters boring and all the phony villain monsters and fake fights - just not for me. If others love it- I say fine - if so many did- that is there preference and the movie was great for them. What's odd for me is that for all of these fantasy movies which I tend to not like or dumb fight movies - these become very poular so they are in there own right "great" for the majority -- for me they are no darn good in my own world. And for this fantasy and fight stuff yet I loved Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. I loved it yet hate so many other movies that are similar to this. I find it fascinating hwo I can hate or like movies which I'd never thought before I went.
I hate Jim Carey other than his silly skits of Fire Marshall Bill - and the movie The Truman Show. Loved it!. And Tobey and Reese in Pleasantville. I can love non-action/ non-thriller movies too. And I enjoy being surprised. I wasn't certain that I'd love The Martian Movie. Loved it.
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Oct 31, 2016 11:26:03 GMT -5
Post by ericmvan on Oct 31, 2016 11:26:03 GMT -5
It's been a weak year for films, but the remaining slate (including two in theaters now) seems exceptionally strong. Here's a pretty comprehensive list.
The first five columns should be self-explanatory ("For." is Foreign). "Rel" is whether it's a Wide or Limited (possibly ramped up to wide later) release. "Stu" is the studio type: Major, Mini-Major, Subsidiary (major studio distribution of indie film), or Indie. Distributor is for true film geeks (A24, for instance, is a new-ish indie distributor with a tremendous track record, e.g. Room and Green Room). Finally, for films that have played festivals or opened internationally, the number of Rotten Tomatoes Reviews, their Average Score, and the IMDB rating for films with 1,000 votes or more.
Arrival is my most anticipated film of the last half-dozen or so years (partly because I'm friendly with the author of the story it's based on, but it also has amazing buzz). I'm seeing The Handmaiden Wednesday (unless there's a game 7) and Moonlight next Monday. As you can see by the ratings, Manchester by the Sea and La La Land (the current Best Picture favorite) have huge buzz, and I adore the previous films by their directors. I'm also very psyched about Loving, Nocturnal Animals, Jackie, Passengers, A Monster Calls, Toni Erdmann, 20th Century Women, and Paterson. And then you have the three studio tentpoles (Marvel, Harry Potter, Star Wars) which should be solid fun, and major films from nearly a dozen big-name directors.
Date Title Genre Director Know For Rel Stu Distributor RT# RTS IM 21-Oct The Handmaiden Drama Chan-wook Park Oldboy Lim Mini Amazon 100 8.2 8.0 21-Oct Moonlight Drama Barry Jenkins [2nd film] Lim Ind A24 106 9.0 8.6 4-Nov Doctor Strange Superhero Scott Derrickson Sinister Wide Maj Walt Disney 88 7.3 8.1 4-Nov Loving True Drama Jeff Nichols Take Shelter Lim Sub Focus 46 7.5 4-Nov Hacksaw Ridge True War Mel Gibson Braveheart Wide Mini Lionsgate 26 7.5 8.6 11-Nov Elle Drama Paul Verhoeven Total Recall Lim Sub Sony Classics 54 8.1 7.3 11-Nov Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk War Ang Lee Crouching Tiger ... Wide Maj Sony 17 4.9 11-Nov Arrival Sci-fi Denis Villaneuve Prisoners Wide Maj Paramount 51 8.7 8.5 18-Nov The Edge of Seventeen Dramedy Kelly Fremon Craig [1st film] Wide Mini STX 13 7.8 18-Nov Nocturnal Animals Drama Tom Ford A Single Man Lim Sub Focus 10 7.6 7.9 18-Nov Manchester by the Sea Drama Kenneth Lonergan You Can Count on Me Lim Ind Roadside Attr. 41 8.7 8.6 18-Nov Fantastic Beasts and Where ... Fantasy David Yates Harry Potter 5 - 8 Wide Maj Warner Bros 18-Nov Bleed for This True Sport Ben Younger Boiler Room Wide Mini Open Road 12 5.6 23-Nov Rules Don’t Apply Dramedy Warren Beatty Reds Wide Maj Fox 23-Nov Allied War Robert Zemeckis Forrest Gump Wide Maj Paramount 23-Nov Moana Animation Clements / Musker Alladin Wide Maj Walt Disney 25-Nov Miss Sloane Drama John Madden Shakespeare in Love Lim Mini Europacorp 25-Nov Lion Drama Garth Davis [1st film] Lim Mini Weinstein 24 6.6 25-Nov Evolution For. Horror Lucile Hadzihalilovic [2nd film] Lim Ind IFC 30 7.3 6.2 2-Dec Jackie Bio Pablo Larrain No Lim Sub Fox Searchlight 27 8.2 2-Dec Things to Come For. Drama Mia Hansen-Love Goodbye First Love Lim Ind Sundance Select 40 8.2 7.1 9-Dec La La Land Musical Damien Chazelle Whiplash Lim Ind Summit 52 8.8 8.6 9-Dec Office Chrsitmas Party Comedy Gordon / Speck Blades of Glory Wide Maj Paramount 16-Dec Neruda For. Bio Pablo Larrain No Lim Ind The Orchard 24 8.2 16-Dec The Founder Bio John Lee Hancock The Blind Side Lim Mini Weinstein 16-Dec Collateral Beauty Drama David Frankel The Devil Wears Prada Wide Maj Warner Bros 16-Dec Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Sci-fi Gareth Edwards Godzilla Wide Maj Walt Disney 16-Dec The Space Between Us Sci-fi Peter Chelsom Serendipity Wide Mini STX 21-Dec Patriots Day True Drama Peter Berg Lone Survivior Lim Mini CBS 21-Dec Julieta For. Drama Pedro Almodovar Talk to Her Lim Sub Sony Classics 84 7.5 7.2 21-Dec Passengers Sci-fi Morten Tyldum The Imitation Game Wide Maj Sony 21-Dec Sing Animation Garth Jennings The Hitchhiker's Guide Wide Maj Universal 23-Dec A Monster Calls Fantasy J.A. Bayona The Impossible Lim Sub Focus 48 7.4 7.7 23-Dec I, Daniel Blake Drama Ken Loach Kes Lim Ind Sundance Select 60 7.7 8.2 23-Dec Silence Historical Martin Scorsese Taxi Driver Lim Maj Paramount 23-Dec Why Him? Comedy John Hamburg I Love You, Man Wide Maj Fox 25-Dec Hidden Figures True Drama Theodore Melfi St. Vincent Lim Maj Fox 25-Dec Live By Night Crime Ben Affleck Argo Lim Maj Warner Bros 25-Dec Toni Erdmann For. Dramedy Maren Ade Everyone Else Lim Sub Sony Classics 37 8.3 8.3 25-Dec 20th Century Women Dramedy Mike Mills Beginners Lim Ind A24 16 8.4 25-Dec Fences Drama Denzel Washnington The Great Debaters Wide Maj Paramount 25-Dec Gold Drama Stephen Gaghan Traffic Wide Mini Weinstein 28-Dec Paterson Dramedy Jim Jarmusch Down by Law Lim Mini Amazon 36 9.1
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Dec 19, 2016 23:00:08 GMT -5
Post by soxjim on Dec 19, 2016 23:00:08 GMT -5
Rogue One was sensational.
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Dec 20, 2016 2:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Dec 20, 2016 2:23:53 GMT -5
Rogue One was sensational. Gotta see it. I thought they did a very solid job on the last one, getting back to compelling characters over f/x. Like you, I'm less impressed with the glitz (although I do appreciate good cinematography), and much more with complex, relatable (or fascinating) characters.
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Post by telson13 on Dec 20, 2016 2:25:31 GMT -5
"Black Mirror" on Netflix is a grab-bag, but generally quite good. Some interesting philosophical questions come up.
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Post by bigpupp on Dec 28, 2016 23:49:22 GMT -5
I stumbled on Black Mirror this past week and I agree. There are a couple duds but for the most part the entire series is amazing.
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Jan 4, 2017 14:44:00 GMT -5
Post by ericmvan on Jan 4, 2017 14:44:00 GMT -5
It's been a weak year for films, but the remaining slate (including two in theaters now) seems exceptionally strong. Here's a pretty comprehensive list. Arrival is my most anticipated film of the last half-dozen or so years (partly because I'm friendly with the author of the story it's based on, but it also has amazing buzz). I'm seeing The Handmaiden Wednesday (unless there's a game 7) and Moonlight next Monday. As you can see by the ratings, Manchester by the Sea and La La Land (the current Best Picture favorite) have huge buzz, and I adore the previous films by their directors. I'm also very psyched about Loving, Nocturnal Animals, Jackie, Passengers, A Monster Calls, Toni Erdmann, 20th Century Women, and Paterson. And then you have the three studio tentpoles (Marvel, Harry Potter, Star Wars) which should be solid fun, and major films from nearly a dozen big-name directors. Here's the scorecard so far. The two ranks are according to mentions on critics Top 10 lists (adding total votes and #1 votes), and my own. Title Ranks Moonlight 1 / 1 Manchester by the Sea 2 / 2 La La Land 3 / 4 Arrival 4 / 3 Toni Erdmann 6 / yet to open The Handmaiden 7 / 16 Elle 8 / 31. I didn't buy the bad guy's psychology, otherwise I might agree. Paterson 9 / yet to open Jackie 11 / 30 Loving 19 / 17 Nocturnal Animals 23 / 10 20th Century Women 25 / yet to open Silence 27 / yet to open Fences 29 / tbd. Waiting for an AMC gift card to arrive in the mail. Rogue One 36 / tbd. Waiting for the crowds at IMAX to thin! Things to Come 37 / 45 Hacksaw Ridge 39 / 42 The Edge of Seventeen 40 / 18 Moana -- / 28. 8.0 IMDB Doctor Strange -- / 23. 7.9 IMDB. Fantastic Beasts … -- / 34. 7.7 IMDB I've never had that kind of agreement with the top four films of the year, or in general for that matter. Other films: Lion, Patriots Day (both out already), Neruda, A Monster Calls, I Daniel Blake, and Hidden Figures (yet to open) all have good enough buzz that I plan to see them in the theater. Julieta just misses; I'll wait to rent. Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk, Bleed for This, Rules Don’t Apply, Allied, and Miss Sloane were all disappointing enough in terms of reviews and audience response that it's unclear I'll even rent them. Evolution seems worth it, though. The jury is till out on The Founder, Live By Night, and Gold, all still in limited release, but it's safe to say that they're all less good than hoped or expected. In general, the films from veteran big-name directors were much weaker than hoped (Gibson, Scorsese and Almodovar the exceptions). Collateral Beauty and Passengers have been huge disappointments. I single them out because I thought they'd hit my fantasy and sci-fi sweet spots. Neither Sing, Office Christmas Party or Why Him? seem to be worth it, but like all of these, I'll see what Netflix's prediction is for me. --- So, it looks like 9 of the top 11 films of the year were held until Oscar season, but it's actually 9 of 10, because the #10 film is the 7 1/2 hour TV documentary O.J.: Made in America, which was put into theaters just to qualify it for an Oscar and has been too good to ignore. I have it at 5. The #5 film of the year is Hell or High Water, which I have at 9.
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Jan 11, 2017 11:07:36 GMT -5
Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 11, 2017 11:07:36 GMT -5
I just want to point out that there's an outside shot that Deadpool gets nominated for Best Picture after being so nominated by the various guild award and the Golden Globes after you took me to task for opening the thread with the trailers. Ironically, I haven't even seen it yet.
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Jan 11, 2017 22:47:47 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Jan 11, 2017 22:47:47 GMT -5
It's been a weak year for films, but the remaining slate (including two in theaters now) seems exceptionally strong. Here's a pretty comprehensive list. Arrival is my most anticipated film of the last half-dozen or so years (partly because I'm friendly with the author of the story it's based on, but it also has amazing buzz). I'm seeing The Handmaiden Wednesday (unless there's a game 7) and Moonlight next Monday. As you can see by the ratings, Manchester by the Sea and La La Land (the current Best Picture favorite) have huge buzz, and I adore the previous films by their directors. I'm also very psyched about Loving, Nocturnal Animals, Jackie, Passengers, A Monster Calls, Toni Erdmann, 20th Century Women, and Paterson. And then you have the three studio tentpoles (Marvel, Harry Potter, Star Wars) which should be solid fun, and major films from nearly a dozen big-name directors. Here's the scorecard so far. The two ranks are according to mentions on critics Top 10 lists (adding total votes and #1 votes), and my own. Title Ranks Moonlight 1 / 1 Manchester by the Sea 2 / 2 La La Land 3 / 4 Arrival 4 / 3 Toni Erdmann 6 / yet to open The Handmaiden 7 / 16 Elle 8 / 31. I didn't buy the bad guy's psychology, otherwise I might agree. Paterson 9 / yet to open Jackie 11 / 30 Loving 19 / 17 Nocturnal Animals 23 / 10 20th Century Women 25 / yet to open Silence 27 / yet to open Fences 29 / tbd. Waiting for an AMC gift card to arrive in the mail. Rogue One 36 / tbd. Waiting for the crowds at IMAX to thin! Things to Come 37 / 45 Hacksaw Ridge 39 / 42 The Edge of Seventeen 40 / 18 Moana -- / 28. 8.0 IMDB Doctor Strange -- / 23. 7.9 IMDB. Fantastic Beasts … -- / 34. 7.7 IMDB I've never had that kind of agreement with the top four films of the year, or in general for that matter. Other films: Lion, Patriots Day (both out already), Neruda, A Monster Calls, I Daniel Blake, and Hidden Figures (yet to open) all have good enough buzz that I plan to see them in the theater. Julieta just misses; I'll wait to rent. Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk, Bleed for This, Rules Don’t Apply, Allied, and Miss Sloane were all disappointing enough in terms of reviews and audience response that it's unclear I'll even rent them. Evolution seems worth it, though. The jury is till out on The Founder, Live By Night, and Gold, all still in limited release, but it's safe to say that they're all less good than hoped or expected. In general, the films from veteran big-name directors were much weaker than hoped (Gibson, Scorsese and Almodovar the exceptions). Collateral Beauty and Passengers have been huge disappointments. I single them out because I thought they'd hit my fantasy and sci-fi sweet spots. Neither Sing, Office Christmas Party or Why Him? seem to be worth it, but like all of these, I'll see what Netflix's prediction is for me. --- So, it looks like 9 of the top 11 films of the year were held until Oscar season, but it's actually 9 of 10, because the #10 film is the 7 1/2 hour TV documentary O.J.: Made in America, which was put into theaters just to qualify it for an Oscar and has been too good to ignore. I have it at 5. The #5 film of the year is Hell or High Water, which I have at 9. I've heard incredible things about "Moonlight."
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Jan 15, 2017 10:15:10 GMT -5
Post by voiceofreason on Jan 15, 2017 10:15:10 GMT -5
"Black Mirror" on Netflix is a grab-bag, but generally quite good. Some interesting philosophical questions come up. With your recommendations I have watched Black Mirror and also come to the same conclusion, some good some not so good episodes. Just finished watching all 12 episodes of "Travelers" on Netflix. Both my girlfriend and I give it a solid B+ and will be looking forward to season 2. Good story line and good acting for the most part. Only 1 episode was a bit boring.
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Post by ericmvan on Jan 19, 2017 1:06:12 GMT -5
I've heard incredible things about "Moonlight." It generates one of two responses. Everyone is impressed by the quality of the filmmaking, and most are blown away. If Barry Jenkins doesn't win the Oscar for Best Director, it will be a major injustice. Some people go no further, and admire the movie without loving it. They don't make a deep emotional connection to the characters, which is very understandable considering that they are so different from the average viewer. Some people do make that connection, and are also blown away emotionally. Tears and stuff. I thought I was in the first camp through about 3/4 of the running time. Then came a scene that wiped me out, and in the end I was as moved as I have ever been in a theater. So I think it's safe to advertise that you might have that reaction. It'll either get you in your soul or it won't. If it falls short of that, it still gives you beautiful insight into the lives of others. There were 1003 critics who published a Top 10 list this year, and 620 included it, so I think that gives you the "blown away by the filmmaking" percentage. It was the #1 film of 155 critics, and that probably understates the "tears and stuff" percentage, because Manchester by the Sea and La La Land were also capable of wiping you out emotionally and stealing the #1 spot. Meanwhile, I've seen A Monster Calls, 20th Century Women, Lion, Rogue One, and Fences, and I'm seeing Silence, Hidden Figures, and Patriot's Day over the weekend.
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Nov 24, 2017 22:42:21 GMT -5
Post by ericmvan on Nov 24, 2017 22:42:21 GMT -5
This has been an incredible deep year for film so far. I count 37 titles that a film buff could absolutely give an A- or better grade to, or ****1/2 out of *****, or call "extraordinary," or give a 9 grade at IMDB. I've done so for 29 of them myself, and there are four more that just missed and four more that worked better for others. This Quora answer of mine ranks the year's best 52 movies so far based on the consensus of critics and film buffs. It has 73K views and 138 upvotes, so you have no excuse not to click on it now! The lists therein include 22 of my top 29 ( Blade Runner 2049 gets an A+ and those ranked 2 through 11 get an A), so all of those films are recommended without any hesitation, if you have broad tastes. Ditto for the four B++ films, ranked 30 to 38 (my other B++ films were a trio of documentaries, Obit., Abacus: Small Enough to Jail, and Rumble: The Indians Who Rocked the World; Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2; and a great combination zombie film and sci-fi puzzle movie, The Girl With All the Gifts). The four films with consensus scores of 8.2 or better that I didn't love include War For the Planet of the Apes (which I still thought was a must-see and a satisfying conclusion to the series, whose second installment I adored) and two documentaries, Kedi and (from the supplementary list) City of Ghosts. Both are tremendous in terms of content (cats and Syrian heroes), but the former ended up less than the sum of its parts for me, while the latter just missed a "loved it" because the documentary storytelling could be a bit stronger. And then there's Logan, the consensus #7 film so far and my #71 (of 75). I simply started tuning it out the umptieth time Wolverine put his claws through a bad guy's head. I maybe need to see it again when I'm in a different mood -- extreme violence usually doesn't bother me. Further down the list are movies from various genres that I don't love but that I found 100% entertaining, e.g. It and John Wick: Chapter 2. Now, here are the consensus ratings plus my ranking for the seven films that got an A- or better from me, but are not consensus faves. 7.8 Maudie (my #26) 7.6 Brigsby Bear (20) 7.4 mother! (3) 7.2 Colossal (11) 7.2 Personal Shopper (16) 6.2 The Bad Batch (18) (supplementary list) 7.4 Marjorie Prime (17) I'll 100% defend each one of these films as being better (and usually much better) than the consensus rating. mother!, Colossal, Personal Shopper (which I had to see twice to understand and love), and especially The Bad Batch were all widely misunderstood by audiences and some critics, largely because they're arthouse movies that were sold as straight genre fare. Maudie would be on the list if some critics hadn't gone in assuming it would be overly sentimental and seen the film they expected to see instead of the one on the screen, and some others didn't believe Ethan Hawke playing 100% against type (so much so that I couldn't place which familiar actor I was watching. I thought whoever it was, was tremendous). Audiences love it (7.7 at IMDB). Critics loved Marjorie Prime (pure arthouse sci-fi) but it hasn't found its audience yet. And too many critics missed the point of Brigsby Bear (it's not nearly as sentimental as they think), but audiences really like it (7.5 at IMDB). My ranking is a bit higher than it deserves because it's very much about the power of story, a theme I love ... it would make a great quadruple bill with Pan's Labyrinth, The Fall, and A Monster Calls, especially because it has more laughs and hugs than the other three combined. By a factor of maybe 10. I have brief reviews for a bunch of these which I might post later. And there's still highly acclaimed stuff I haven't seen yet and great stuff coming up.
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Nov 24, 2017 23:58:51 GMT -5
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Post by jiant2520 on Nov 24, 2017 23:58:51 GMT -5
Blade Runner was fantastic!!
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Nov 25, 2017 0:08:52 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Nov 25, 2017 0:08:52 GMT -5
I've got to see "Blade Runner." The original is still a masterpiece of sci-fi and film noir.
"Wind River" is excellent. Terrific acting and character-driven, with some sublime cinematography.
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Nov 25, 2017 12:46:30 GMT -5
Post by soxjim on Nov 25, 2017 12:46:30 GMT -5
Dunkirk was outstanding.
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Post by ericmvan on Nov 25, 2017 14:11:31 GMT -5
I've got to see "Blade Runner." The original is still a masterpiece of sci-fi and film noir. "Wind River" is excellent. Terrific acting and character-driven, with some sublime cinematography. The new Blade Runner is probably in the top 5 films of all time in the category "see this in the movie theater and don't wait for the disk." I think it's still playing in a few places. You should really hunt it down. If you can find it in IMAX (and hence its full aspect ratio), all the better. I've been working on an all-time top 40 science fiction films list, trying to get the ranking as fair as possible by looking at everyone else's collective opinion before adding my own. I said from the beginning that the challenge was to determine which film is #3, because 2001: A Space Odyssey is obviously #1 and Blade Runner is #2. And i said that this might never change, because I'm including influence in the ranking, and it's going to be hard to come up with a new film that could change the landscape of sf cinema the way those two films did. This may well be true. But I've swapped my top 2. #1 is now the combination of the two Blade Runners. Because they are seamlessly integrated thematically (as well as visually, which was the expected part), and the combination is more clearly than ever an exploration of Philip K. Dick's original thematic concerns in Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. The original screenplay was a passion project of Hampton Fancher, who loved the novel, but it was unclear from the first movie just how smitten he was the philosophical content versus the story (which is also terrific). The question asked by PKD in the novel is, what does it mean to be truly human? The answer Dick always gave was, true humans have empathy for others. But PKD's genius was not confined to using sf as a tool to explore questions like these (his other two big ones being "what is the nature of reality?" and "how should we deal morally with evil?"). He was also a visionary about the actual future. This is a guy who wrote, in the early 60's, about people being harangued by small drones with personally targeted advertising messages! In the novels, the messages are always personally embarrassing. He was accurately satirizing things that would not happen for another fifty or sixty years. But Dick died before the science of AI advanced very far. Unlike his advertising drones, his androids are fundamentally symbolic rather than hard science fiction. Hampton Fancher asked the question, if Phil Dick were alive and following the science of AI, would he have a second answer to the question "what does it mean to be truly human?" Blade Runner 2049 is about that answer, and it's completely brilliant about it. There's a major plot point directly related to the new thematic question that I didn't get until my third viewing. I rushed back to see it a 4th time (and the 3rd time in 8 days) to see how the movie played wit this knowledge (and ended up refining my take on just what was going on). I'll be busy or out of town until 12/5, but if I can find the film still playing when I come back (or in Palm Beach, FL), I think I'll see it again. The last time I saw a film 4 or 5 times in the theater, it was The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, and I think of Fancher's and Denis Villaneuve's accomplishment here is in a similar vein. Both are based on supremely great literature and both are insanely better than I dared hope.
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Nov 25, 2017 17:40:54 GMT -5
Post by ericmvan on Nov 25, 2017 17:40:54 GMT -5
It's being re-released on Friday in IMAX and 70mm formats, in part as a reminder to Oscar voters. I'm going to try to see it a 3rd time. On the big IMAX screen, it was maybe the most immersive movie experience I've ever had. Hmm .. none of the local IMAX theaters are selling tickets for this Friday, which would certainly be the case if they were extending Justice League. But they haven't announced Dunkirk yet. They have two weeks to fill before the new Star Wars opens.
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Nov 25, 2017 23:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Nov 25, 2017 23:06:19 GMT -5
I've got to see "Blade Runner." The original is still a masterpiece of sci-fi and film noir. "Wind River" is excellent. Terrific acting and character-driven, with some sublime cinematography. The new Blade Runner is probably in the top 5 films of all time in the category "see this in the movie theater and don't wait for the disk." I think it's still playing in a few places. You should really hunt it down. If you can find it in IMAX (and hence its full aspect ratio), all the better. I've been working on an all-time top 40 science fiction films list, trying to get the ranking as fair as possible by looking at everyone else's collective opinion before adding my own. I said from the beginning that the challenge was to determine which film is #3, because 2001: A Space Odyssey is obviously #1 and Blade Runner is #2. And i said that this might never change, because I'm including influence in the ranking, and it's going to be hard to come up with a new film that could change the landscape of sf cinema the way those two films did. This may well be true. But I've swapped my top 2. #1 is now the combination of the two Blade Runners. Because they are seamlessly integrated thematically (as well as visually, which was the expected part), and the combination is more clearly than ever an exploration of Philip K. Dick's original thematic concerns in Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. The original screenplay was a passion project of Hampton Fancher, who loved the novel, but it was unclear from the first movie just how smitten he was the philosophical content versus the story (which is also terrific). The question asked by PKD in the novel is, what does it mean to be truly human? The answer Dick always gave was, true humans have empathy for others. But PKD's genius was not confined to using sf as a tool to explore questions like these (his other two big ones being "what is the nature of reality?" and "how should we deal morally with evil?"). He was also a visionary about the actual future. This is a guy who wrote, in the early 60's, about people being harangued by small drones with personally targeted advertising messages! In the novels, the messages are always personally embarrassing. He was accurately satirizing things that would not happen for another fifty or sixty years. But Dick died before the science of AI advanced very far. Unlike his advertising drones, his androids are fundamentally symbolic rather than hard science fiction. Hampton Fancher asked the question, if Phil Dick were alive and following the science of AI, would he have a second answer to the question "what does it mean to be truly human?" Blade Runner 2049 is about that answer, and it's completely brilliant about it. There's a major plot point directly related to the new thematic question that I didn't get until my third viewing. I rushed back to see it a 4th time (and the 3rd time in 8 days) to see how the movie played wit this knowledge (and ended up refining my take on just what was going on). I'll be busy or out of town until 12/5, but if I can find the film still playing when I come back (or in Palm Beach, FL), I think I'll see it again. The last time I saw a film 4 or 5 times in the theater, it was The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, and I think of Fancher's and Denis Villaneuve's accomplishment here is in a similar vein. Both are based on supremely great literature and both are insanely better than I dared hope. I will take that advice and look for an IMAX. One of my favorite stories as a kid was Philip Dick's early short, Imposter. I know they did the Sinise vehicle, but I never saw it. The short story was perfect enough. At some point I'm going to read "A Scanner Darkly," which was a good film, but which I think must be a better novel. In the AI vein, I liked both "Her" (which I thought was a terrific prediction for the evolution of AI), and "Ex Machina," which despite a few plot holes, was quite good and sufficiently disturbing.
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Nov 25, 2017 23:13:04 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Nov 25, 2017 23:13:04 GMT -5
Re: your list, Eric, we're generally of similar tastes/opinions, which encourages me to see "Ghost Story" even more. However, I actually really liked the bleakness of "Logan," and I was supremely disappointed by "Get Out." The latter was, to me, a giant cliche in imaginative wrapping. While the acting was very good, and his friend excellent comic relief, I went in anticipating horror, and just felt totally deflated by the third act with the campiness. Never seemed to develop a consistent mood/tone to me, which is admittedly a major aspect of my horror sensibilities.
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