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Jan 18, 2018 1:04:44 GMT -5
Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 18, 2018 1:04:44 GMT -5
Until last season, you needed to pay attention to every character in GOT. Even the small ones come back up years later. For the first 3 years I rewatched every season before the new one. You would always catch stuff you missed and get back into the story after 9 and 1/2 months. It just got to be too much, so I had to stop. Can't spend a month rewatching the series every year. Heck by now it might take 2 months, unless you have a ton of free time. The point being that almost nothing in GOT is just filler. It all has meaning and tons of little hints towards the future episodes. The good news is that (from what I read), you will have plenty of time to do it. The 8th and final year won't be airing until 2019. The bad news is that it won't air until 2019. I just finished the first 7 years, liked it a lot. My favorite character is the Imp but the Dragon queen is great eye candy. Funny that they left it with her and her brother as lovers, incest seemed to be a theme throughout. A wild guess is that they will find out she isn't a Tagaryen and everyone will live happily ever after. As Jiant points out she is his Aunt based on what we know and because of the fire and Dragons I don't see how she can't not be Targaryen. The Imp is my guy though. Wouldn't be the same show without him. So after just watching all 7 seasons, what did you think about season 7? Tons of action, just seems they crammed 10 episodes into 7. The sense of time just disappeared. It drove me nuts. Looking at the map of Westros and the 7 Kingdoms, things just couldn't happen like that. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 18, 2018 1:07:10 GMT -5
Sure have, good show. Just a level below the really good shows in my opinion. I'm also enjoying knightfall which is on right after the Vikings. Have you seen the 13th Warrior? If you like Viking stuff that has to be one of the best Viking movies ever made. The one with Antonio Banderas? I saw that a while back, I liked it. Yea. It's getting old now, seen it listed as one of the biggest flops ever. I like it though, seen it more than I should. Right up there with King Arthur with Clive Owen. |
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Jan 18, 2018 1:37:14 GMT -5
Post by tizzle on Jan 18, 2018 1:37:14 GMT -5
Eric, curious what you thought of Last Jedi? I find the imbd reviews interesting. It currently gets a 7.6 score but if you read the user reviews, the vast majority of them are awful, with almost all of them under 5. I haven't seen it yet. Hate going to the theater anymore... Checking into this thread for the first time in forever ... The Last Jedi is in some ways my favorite Star Wars movie, and I'll have to rewatch The Empire Strikes Back for the first time since 1984 in order to confirm that it's overall #2. ( A New Hope didn't stand up as well as I thought it would.) I saw it twice in the span of five days, the second time with an out-of-town friend and his wife and his kid -- and he and the kid were also seeing it for the second time. In terms of non-sfx visual appeal, I think that just the battle scene in Snoke's chamber exceeds everything in all the other movies combined. Fanboys who would have been perfectly content to see the same story repeated in every movie (as long as the world was expanded with new stuff), and have a very rigid idea of what's allowed in the universe, hate this film, not because they don't think it was good, because they don't like what happened. There were things that delighted me because they surprised me, but these fans don't want any actual surprises. SPOILERS START: They especially hate that the crazy plan didn't work. Of course, because it didn't, we will never be sure again whether the crazy plan in every future Star Wars movie will work or not. Fanboys think it's too dark (e.g., the situation the Resistance is in at the end), and yet compared to the average film it's still hugging puppies. SPOILERS END Basically, this was a film targeted at the huge amount of viewers who love the movies but are not obsessed with them, and its purpose was to make our interest in the series permanent by being unpredictable. Nothing kills a franchise more than being predictable. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, though I lean towards Empire as the best still. And I don't want to give short shrift to Rogue One, which might have been the emotional highpoint of the SW movies. But yeah, the criticism of Last Jedi is kinda sad. People can't deal with a character arc for Luke that's anything but making him the chosen one, and that's where a lot of the hate comes from. |
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Jan 18, 2018 2:01:06 GMT -5
Post by ericmvan on Jan 18, 2018 2:01:06 GMT -5
Checking into this thread for the first time in forever ... The Last Jedi is in some ways my favorite Star Wars movie, and I'll have to rewatch The Empire Strikes Back for the first time since 1984 in order to confirm that it's overall #2. ( A New Hope didn't stand up as well as I thought it would.) I saw it twice in the span of five days, the second time with an out-of-town friend and his wife and his kid -- and he and the kid were also seeing it for the second time. In terms of non-sfx visual appeal, I think that just the battle scene in Snoke's chamber exceeds everything in all the other movies combined. Fanboys who would have been perfectly content to see the same story repeated in every movie (as long as the world was expanded with new stuff), and have a very rigid idea of what's allowed in the universe, hate this film, not because they don't think it was good, because they don't like what happened. There were things that delighted me because they surprised me, but these fans don't want any actual surprises. SPOILERS START: They especially hate that the crazy plan didn't work. Of course, because it didn't, we will never be sure again whether the crazy plan in every future Star Wars movie will work or not. Fanboys think it's too dark (e.g., the situation the Resistance is in at the end), and yet compared to the average film it's still hugging puppies. SPOILERS END Basically, this was a film targeted at the huge amount of viewers who love the movies but are not obsessed with them, and its purpose was to make our interest in the series permanent by being unpredictable. Nothing kills a franchise more than being predictable. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, though I lean towards Empire as the best still. And I don't want to give short shrift to Rogue One, which might have been the emotional highpoint of the SW movies. But yeah, the criticism of Last Jedi is kinda sad. People can't deal with a character arc for Luke that's anything but making him the chosen one, and that's where a lot of the hate comes from. Loving Rogue One depends on how much you related to the characters. Since I thought the visuals and action sequences were terrific, I can imagine any viewer who bonded emotionally with the crew reacting as you did. Personally, I felt like I still didn't know them all that well. But that's me and not the movie. It is of course alone among the movies in having a unique set of characters. They made Luke's depression 100% credible. They actually created a genuine tragic moment between him and young Ben. You wonder whether the fanboys have ever seen a single movie where a character goes to a dark place and discovers redemption, which, of course, is one of the most common and powerful story arcs in literature and film. His gesture in the showdown with the forces of the First Order might be the best and most satisfying (and most bad-ass) moment in all of the movies. BTW, Mark Hamill fans and Star War fans (is there any non-overlap?) should rush to rent Brigsby Bear, a beautiful defense of the value of obsessive fandom, wrapped in an insightful treatment of much bigger and broader psychological issues, inside a very funny and warped comedy, with Hamill perfectly cast. It's a future cult classic, I think. |
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Jan 18, 2018 2:46:01 GMT -5
Post by tizzle on Jan 18, 2018 2:46:01 GMT -5
I guess I would just say that I think they did a tremendous job of convincing me that Jyn went from self-serving to suicide-mission rebel in one movie. It's kind of the Han Solo arc, but after all these movies, I still don't see him as caring that much about the rebellion, they've only convinced me that he cares about his friends, which is fine. Rogue One also has Chirrut and Baze, among the best secondary friendships I can remember in any film. And the funniest, if not best, droid of the entire series. But we can just differ on that one.
Last Jedi just feels like the first one that's adult filmmaking, rather than a kid's movie or action flick. You think about how the original trilogy gave us Darth Vader, pure evil that turned good just to save his son, or Han Solo who came back to help his friends. Then you look at how they gave us the layers and conflicts of Kylo Ren. He's someone who thinks he's doing the right thing, he's got these complex relationships with his parents, Snoke, Luke and especially Rey. I just feel like this movie gave us a character who earned his rage and confusion the way 3 prequels didn't come close to with Anakin.
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Jan 18, 2018 4:10:32 GMT -5
Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 18, 2018 4:10:32 GMT -5
lol, now there are odds on who will be sitting on the Iron Throne when it ends. I'd be amazed if there won't be insider trading issues.
Here's one list:
Jon Snow: 9/4
Daenerys Targaryen: 4/1
Cersei Lannister: 7/1
The Night King: 8/1
Tyrion Lannister: 10/1
Bran Stark: 12/1
Gendry: 12/1
Samwell Tarly: 12/1
Sansa Stark: 12/1
Arya Stark: 14/1
Euron Greyjoy: 20/1
Jaime Lannister: 25/1
Varys: 50/1
Theon Greyjoy: 66/1
Ser Davos Seaworth: 80/1
Yara Greyjoy: 80/1
Brienne of Tarth: 100/1
Jaqen H’ghar: 100/1
Melisandre: 100/1
Gilly: 250/1
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Jan 18, 2018 5:42:04 GMT -5
Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 18, 2018 5:42:04 GMT -5
3 Outdoors is thoroughly awesome and I really hope it wins the Oscars. 3 outdoors ? I googled it but... Also I wouldn't count on the Oscar's if you are talking about best picture. Jeter won a Gold Glove and Birdman won an Oscar. |
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Jan 18, 2018 5:54:45 GMT -5
Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 18, 2018 5:54:45 GMT -5
The good news is that (from what I read), you will have plenty of time to do it. The 8th and final year won't be airing until 2019. The bad news is that it won't air until 2019. I just finished the first 7 years, liked it a lot. My favorite character is the Imp but the Dragon queen is great eye candy. Funny that they left it with her and her brother as lovers, incest seemed to be a theme throughout. A wild guess is that they will find out she isn't a Tagaryen and everyone will live happily ever after. As Jiant points out she is his Aunt based on what we know and because of the fire and Dragons I don't see how she can't not be Targaryen. The Imp is my guy though. Wouldn't be the same show without him. So after just watching all 7 seasons, what did you think about season 7? Tons of action, just seems they crammed 10 episodes into 7. The sense of time just disappeared. It drove me nuts. Looking at the map of Westros and the 7 Kingdoms, things just couldn't happen like that. Agree about Blondie. After jiant's comment here, I rewatched the scene with the three eyed raven and it was her brother named, not her father, my bad. I'm less interested in the wall stuff than what happens south and as the years progress the wall is playing a bigger and bigger part. It's not that it isn't well done, zombies have never been my thing. That's just personal taste though, not a critique. Agree that they made it appear that entire armies were moving over vast distances over short times. A few shots of armies moving could have fixed that but that would have conflicted with the urgency at the wall. Where do dragons get their butane and do dragons need refills? Interestingly, in real life, dragons appear in the mythology of several civilizations all over the globe and in almost always the same format, huge flying lizards that breathe fire. How'd that happen ? I was more bothered by the change in power before and after the queens met. Prior to the meeting Jamie and sis were looking out at the armies and saying they were in deep doo-doo. After the meeting, the dragon entourage were thinking they were screwed. Nothing changed tactically. They could have stormed the city while the navy was gone and problem solved (except the wall). They could then have taken what remained of the Lanister's army and gone to the wall. They had two dragons there. Sometimes little details bother me. Like when Jon's uncle rode up and saved him. Why would he not think there was time. Horses with two men on their backs can outrun zombies and why would Jon just leave his uncle there, that seemed out of character. |
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Jan 18, 2018 14:33:22 GMT -5
Post by ericmvan on Jan 18, 2018 14:33:22 GMT -5
3 Outdoors is thoroughly awesome and I really hope it wins the Oscars. 3 outdoors ? I googled it but... Also I wouldn't count on the Oscar's if you are talking about best picture. Jeter won a Gold Glove and Birdman won an Oscar. "Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri," I'm pretty sure. Won the Golden Globe for best drama but probably has no shot at the Oscar. Terrific film from the writer / director of the all-time classic In Bruges. Not in that film's class but a consensus top 10 film of the year. I have it at #15, but only because I have a half-dozen sci-fi, etc. films ahead of it that the consensus doesn't. |
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Jan 19, 2018 3:10:58 GMT -5
Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2018 3:10:58 GMT -5
thx, I'll check it out.
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Jan 19, 2018 8:53:21 GMT -5
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Post by jiant2520 on Jan 19, 2018 8:53:21 GMT -5
As Jiant points out she is his Aunt based on what we know and because of the fire and Dragons I don't see how she can't not be Targaryen. The Imp is my guy though. Wouldn't be the same show without him. So after just watching all 7 seasons, what did you think about season 7? Tons of action, just seems they crammed 10 episodes into 7. The sense of time just disappeared. It drove me nuts. Looking at the map of Westros and the 7 Kingdoms, things just couldn't happen like that. Agree about Blondie. After jiant's comment here, I rewatched the scene with the three eyed raven and it was her brother named, not her father, my bad. I'm less interested in the wall stuff than what happens south and as the years progress the wall is playing a bigger and bigger part. It's not that it isn't well done, zombies have never been my thing. That's just personal taste though, not a critique. Agree that they made it appear that entire armies were moving over vast distances over short times. A few shots of armies moving could have fixed that but that would have conflicted with the urgency at the wall. Where do dragons get their butane and do dragons need refills? Interestingly, in real life, dragons appear in the mythology of several civilizations all over the globe and in almost always the same format, huge flying lizards that breathe fire. How'd that happen ? I was more bothered by the change in power before and after the queens met. Prior to the meeting Jamie and sis were looking out at the armies and saying they were in deep doo-doo. After the meeting, the dragon entourage were thinking they were screwed. Nothing changed tactically. They could have stormed the city while the navy was gone and problem solved (except the wall). They could then have taken what remained of the Lanister's army and gone to the wall. They had two dragons there. Sometimes little details bother me. Like when Jon's uncle rode up and saved him. Why would he not think there was time. Horses with two men on their backs can outrun zombies and why would Jon just leave his uncle there, that seemed out of character. Jons uncle was a white walker, but the Children of the Forrest saved him from fully turning. The magic in the wall kept him from ever going south again. He probably didn't wish to live like that and used his last moments to give Jon as much time as he could. |
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Jan 19, 2018 17:59:13 GMT -5
Post by tizzle on Jan 19, 2018 17:59:13 GMT -5
Agree about Blondie. After jiant's comment here, I rewatched the scene with the three eyed raven and it was her brother named, not her father, my bad. I'm less interested in the wall stuff than what happens south and as the years progress the wall is playing a bigger and bigger part. It's not that it isn't well done, zombies have never been my thing. That's just personal taste though, not a critique. Agree that they made it appear that entire armies were moving over vast distances over short times. A few shots of armies moving could have fixed that but that would have conflicted with the urgency at the wall. Where do dragons get their butane and do dragons need refills? Interestingly, in real life, dragons appear in the mythology of several civilizations all over the globe and in almost always the same format, huge flying lizards that breathe fire. How'd that happen ? I was more bothered by the change in power before and after the queens met. Prior to the meeting Jamie and sis were looking out at the armies and saying they were in deep doo-doo. After the meeting, the dragon entourage were thinking they were screwed. Nothing changed tactically. They could have stormed the city while the navy was gone and problem solved (except the wall). They could then have taken what remained of the Lanister's army and gone to the wall. They had two dragons there. Sometimes little details bother me. Like when Jon's uncle rode up and saved him. Why would he not think there was time. Horses with two men on their backs can outrun zombies and why would Jon just leave his uncle there, that seemed out of character. Jons uncle was a white walker, but the Children of the Forrest saved him from fully turning. The magic in the wall kept him from ever going south again. He probably didn't wish to live like that and used his last moments to give Jon as much time as he could. Actually, he was dying and would have turned into a wight, but the Children saved him with the same magic that created White Walkers. |
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Jan 19, 2018 20:12:10 GMT -5
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Post by jiant2520 on Jan 19, 2018 20:12:10 GMT -5
You are correct, a weight, not a white walker. Either way, he couldn't go below the wall, so he was stuck in the far north.
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Jan 20, 2018 13:11:57 GMT -5
Post by soxjim on Jan 20, 2018 13:11:57 GMT -5
Eric, curious what you thought of Last Jedi? I find the imbd reviews interesting. It currently gets a 7.6 score but if you read the user reviews, the vast majority of them are awful, with almost all of them under 5. I haven't seen it yet. Hate going to the theater anymore... Checking into this thread for the first time in forever ... The Last Jedi is in some ways my favorite Star Wars movie, and I'll have to rewatch The Empire Strikes Back for the first time since 1984 in order to confirm that it's overall #2. ( A New Hope didn't stand up as well as I thought it would.) I saw it twice in the span of five days, the second time with an out-of-town friend and his wife and his kid -- and he and the kid were also seeing it for the second time. In terms of non-sfx visual appeal, I think that just the battle scene in Snoke's chamber exceeds everything in all the other movies combined. Fanboys who would have been perfectly content to see the same story repeated in every movie (as long as the world was expanded with new stuff), and have a very rigid idea of what's allowed in the universe, hate this film, not because they don't think it was good, because they don't like what happened. There were things that delighted me because they surprised me, but these fans don't want any actual surprises. SPOILERS START: They especially hate that the crazy plan didn't work. Of course, because it didn't, we will never be sure again whether the crazy plan in every future Star Wars movie will work or not. Fanboys think it's too dark (e.g., the situation the Resistance is in at the end), and yet compared to the average film it's still hugging puppies. SPOILERS END Basically, this was a film targeted at the huge amount of viewers who love the movies but are not obsessed with them, and its purpose was to make our interest in the series permanent by being unpredictable. Nothing kills a franchise more than being predictable. The Last Jedi has me considering stopping watching the Star Wars movies. What you enjoy in movies - is not what I enjoy. What happens in a movie can be just as important if not more. At times I felt like thsi was taking me back to the old "Batman TV shows." I go to movies for enjoyment. Not for the "critical movement/ costumes sets" etc in a scene. There is a bit too much what i disliked in this movie for me to address - too many spoliers comments. I just thought the movie had some points where one could feel like it was directed by a 12 year old kid. One of his responses as to why a particular star evaded death in a completely absurd way - his response was "because he/she is a badass." Normally that might be okay considering these Star Wars movies are all fun and crazy anyways - but a further question begs to be asked that I won't because of spoilers. But imo this just highlights very little thought -- something a 12 year old would do. I do agree with you-- Empire Strikes Back - the best. IMO this movie rivals The Phantom Menace/Jar Jar Binks. |
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Jan 20, 2018 13:35:40 GMT -5
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Post by jiant2520 on Jan 20, 2018 13:35:40 GMT -5
Overall, I think The Last Jedi was a good movie. It is not the best Star Wars film in my opinion, but it is far from a bad movie.
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Jan 20, 2018 13:56:00 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Jan 20, 2018 13:56:00 GMT -5
One of the complaints I read over and over again was how everyone can use the force and didn't have to train tirelessly to use it like Luke did in Empire. And even after all that training, he could barely use it.
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Jan 20, 2018 16:33:34 GMT -5
Post by soxjim on Jan 20, 2018 16:33:34 GMT -5
One of the complaints I read over and over again was how everyone can use the force and didn't have to train tirelessly to use it like Luke did in Empire. And even after all that training, he could barely use it. Yes. But then you can add more and more complaints which is why you see as much negativity from the audience perspective on Rotten Tomatoes. The movie isn't "bad." Just wasn't worth for me going to see again unlike other Star Wars movies. And I don't have to watch the next and the next etc. This movie gave me little incentive to see the next. And I won't make the same mistake again. I can't trust what the critics say much. At one time it was rarely like that. If they liked a blockbuster an action or a thriller, I tended to like it too. I'll read up more next time from audience pov and I know others who will see in advance and ask them. |
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Jan 20, 2018 21:24:01 GMT -5
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Post by jiant2520 on Jan 20, 2018 21:24:01 GMT -5
I know this is a movies thread, but I hated that Disney made most all of the Star Wars material non-canonical. I've read so many of the Old Republic books and I personally like them more than the Skywalker time frame movies... I really wish they made prequels... Darth Bane and Revan were epic!
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 20, 2018 21:56:06 GMT -5
After seeing some of the Game of Thrones scenes, my 7 year old daughter wants zombie movies. Parenting failure for sure.
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Jan 22, 2018 13:59:34 GMT -5
Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 22, 2018 13:59:34 GMT -5
3 outdoors ? I googled it but... Also I wouldn't count on the Oscar's if you are talking about best picture. Jeter won a Gold Glove and Birdman won an Oscar. "Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri," I'm pretty sure. Won the Golden Globe for best drama but probably has no shot at the Oscar. Terrific film from the writer / director of the all-time classic In Bruges. Not in that film's class but a consensus top 10 film of the year. I have it at #15, but only because I have a half-dozen sci-fi, etc. films ahead of it that the consensus doesn't. I thought it was good but not great. For me, they overdid the standard stereotypes and the deputy's change of heart over a letter was unrealistic. The storyline was good and it was worth the watch. |
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Jan 24, 2018 16:32:49 GMT -5
Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 24, 2018 16:32:49 GMT -5
I know this is a movies thread, but I hated that Disney made most all of the Star Wars material non-canonical. I've read so many of the Old Republic books and I personally like them more than the Skywalker time frame movies... I really wish they made prequels... Darth Bane and Revan were epic! I've read that a huge part of why they did that is because Chewbacca died in the expanded universe by a moon falling on him, and Disney wanted to undo that. www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2018/01/18/did-chewbaccas-death-reset-the-star-wars-canon/#38b5ac4053d5I mean, if it were anything but Star Wars, it'd just be another reboot, right? Comics are doing that all the time now, as have other movie franchises over the years. |
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Jan 24, 2018 19:35:22 GMT -5
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Post by jiant2520 on Jan 24, 2018 19:35:22 GMT -5
Yeah, not really...
There are so many books in the expanded universe that have nothing to do with Chewbacca, so I don't buy that as a huge reason. I mean he was not even born for 50% of the material, him dying has absolutely nothing to do with those books.
The whole back story with Revan, Mandalor, his wife and kid, and their lineage of all the Shan's is cool, how they interact with Malgus. Darth Bane and how he started the rule of two is just awesome. How the Sith became who they are. The Je'daii, the Rakata Empire... and so much more, all could have been canon, and not affected Chewbacca... they could have still brought him back.
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Jan 25, 2018 9:02:00 GMT -5
Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 25, 2018 9:02:00 GMT -5
I eventually started to be bugged by the fact that half of the films in the critics list don't have enough votes (25,000) to qualify for the IMDB one, so being in the top 250 in their list was way too tough a criterion. And when I filtered the critics list to include just films with 25K+ votes, I couldn't help notice that there were only an insane 4 films from 2004 and onward. Whereas the IMDB list had an equally insane 61! A proper number, given that the rate of great films hasn't changed over time, would be 32. At the same time, I identified a general bias in the critics list: the older the film, the higher the ranking. So I tweaked both lists to fix all that, doing a big analysis to try to find the 29 older films that just missed the IMDB Top 250. That produces this revised list of 133 films that are all-time favorites of both critics and film fans. (The placement of The Lord of the Rings is a guess, because the critics' votes for the three parts are counted separately, but it's all one film, and there are lots of other long films that were released in multiple parts that are recognized as one film by critics.) 1. The Godfather 2. The Godfather Part II 3. Seven Samurai 4. Psycho 5. Apocalypse Now 6. City Lights 7. Pulp Fiction 8. GoodFellas 9. Casablanca 10. Citizen Kane 11. Rear Window 12. Modern Times 13. Vertigo 14. Once Upon a Time in the West 15. Sunset Blvd. 16. Star Wars 17. It's a Wonderful Life 18. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb 19. Taxi Driver 20. 2001: A Space Odyssey 21. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly 22. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 23. Bicycle Thieves 24. Singin' in the Rain 25. Lawrence of Arabia 26. M 27. Rashomon 28. North by Northwest 29. The Shining 30. Schindler's List 31. Spirited Away 32. Alien 33. Sunrise 34. Raging Bull 35. A Clockwork Orange 36. Some Like it Hot 37. Once Upon a Time in America 38. Metropolis 39. The Apartment 40. Raiders of the Lost Ark 41. The Empire Strikes Back 42. The Third Man 43. Chinatown 44. Blade Runner 45. The Matrix 46. The Great Dictator 47. The General 48. The Shawshank Redemption 49. Double Indemnity 50. All About Eve 51. The Gold Rush 52. Wild Strawberries 53. Paths of Glory 54. The 400 Blows 55. Back to the Future 56. Persona 57. 8 1/2 58. The Seventh Seal 59. Cinema Paradiso 60. Fight Club 61. Touch of Evil 62. City of God 63. Ikiru 64. Reservoir Dogs 65. Stalker 66. The Lord of the Rings 67. Gone with the Wind 68. The Silence of the Lambs 69. On the Waterfront 70. Forrest Gump 71. Ran 72. To Kill a Mockingbird 73. Annie Hall 74. The Dark Knight 75. Barry Lyndon 76. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 77. Aliens 78. La Grande illusion 79. Fanny and Alexander 80. The Deer Hunter 81. La Dolce Vita 82. The Battle of Algiers 83. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 84. Unforgiven 85. My Neighbour Totoro 86. The Big Lebowski 87. The Night of the Hunter 88. Fargo 89. The Wizard of Oz 90. Jaws 91. Terminator 2: Judgment Day 92. WALL-E 93. Amadeus 94. Mulholland Dr. 95. Heat 96. Toy Story 97. The Kid 98. In the Mood for Love 99. The Lives of Others 100. The Grapes of Wrath 101. Notorious 102. Amélie 103. The Bridge on the River Kwai 104. The Best Years of Our Lives 105. Yojimbo 106. Groundhog Day 107. Manhattan 108. Nosferatu 109. The Maltese Falcon 110. It Happened One Night 111. The Wages of Fear 112. A Separation 113. Rosemary's Baby 114. Brazil 115. Underground 116. Casino 117. The Thing (1982) 118. Network 119. Die Hard 120. Trainspotting 121. The Exorcist 122. Pan's Labyrinth 123. Monty Python's Life of Brian 124. Magnolia 125. The Graduate 126. Throne of Blood 127. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 128. Dog Day Afternoon 129. The Terminator 130. This is Spinal Tap 131. Strangers on a Train 132. The Big Sleep 133. The Sound of Music 1998 or 1926 'The General' ? Handy list, I've started viewing some that looked interesting (YouTube trailers are great for this) and I hadn't seen. So far Seven Samurai and Pulp Fiction. Liked them both although SS seemed to drag for the first 1/4 and I don't particularly like Travolta. lol, I've seen a part of PF, Urge Overkill uses the movie for his video 'Girl, You'll be a Woman Soon'. Next up, The Big Lebowski. |
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Jan 25, 2018 14:08:12 GMT -5
Post by soxjim on Jan 25, 2018 14:08:12 GMT -5
Here are some additional movies other than the fabulous ones listed by eric and phils:
Western:
High Noon 1952, Shane 1953, Lonesome Dove (Series 1989)
War
Mister Roberts 1955, Where Eagles Dare 1968, We Were Soldiers 2002, Dunkirk 2017. Lone Survivor 2013
Romance/Comedy/Drama
Moonstruck 1987, Roman Holiday 1953, Tootsie 1982, Walk the Line 2005
Crime
Angels with Dirty Faces 1938, Key Largo 1948, The Untouchables 1987, LA Confidential 1997, The Gangs of New York 2002
Thriller
Backdraft 1991, Gaslight 1944, Sleuth 1972, Shadow of a Doubt 1943, Zero Dark Thirty 2012
Courtroom Drama
12 Angry Men 1957, The Verdict 1982, Witness for the Prosecution 1957
Adventure / and Comedy
Apollo 13 (1995), The African Queen 1951, Monty Python and The Holy Grail 1975
Action/SciFi/Fantasy:
Gravity 2013, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2000, Mad Max Fury Road 2015, Superman 2 1981
***And a special nomination/ shout out to two sequels from this list that were among the worst movies I have ever seen.
The High Noon 1980 sequel with Lee Majors.
The Sleuth 2007 sequel with Michael Caine and Jude Law.
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Movies
Jan 25, 2018 15:42:29 GMT -5
Post by jimed14 on Jan 25, 2018 15:42:29 GMT -5
I eventually started to be bugged by the fact that half of the films in the critics list don't have enough votes (25,000) to qualify for the IMDB one, so being in the top 250 in their list was way too tough a criterion. And when I filtered the critics list to include just films with 25K+ votes, I couldn't help notice that there were only an insane 4 films from 2004 and onward. Whereas the IMDB list had an equally insane 61! A proper number, given that the rate of great films hasn't changed over time, would be 32. At the same time, I identified a general bias in the critics list: the older the film, the higher the ranking. So I tweaked both lists to fix all that, doing a big analysis to try to find the 29 older films that just missed the IMDB Top 250. That produces this revised list of 133 films that are all-time favorites of both critics and film fans. (The placement of The Lord of the Rings is a guess, because the critics' votes for the three parts are counted separately, but it's all one film, and there are lots of other long films that were released in multiple parts that are recognized as one film by critics.) 1. The Godfather 2. The Godfather Part II 3. Seven Samurai 4. Psycho 5. Apocalypse Now 6. City Lights 7. Pulp Fiction 8. GoodFellas 9. Casablanca 10. Citizen Kane 11. Rear Window 12. Modern Times 13. Vertigo 14. Once Upon a Time in the West 15. Sunset Blvd. 16. Star Wars 17. It's a Wonderful Life 18. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb 19. Taxi Driver 20. 2001: A Space Odyssey 21. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly 22. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 23. Bicycle Thieves 24. Singin' in the Rain 25. Lawrence of Arabia 26. M 27. Rashomon 28. North by Northwest 29. The Shining 30. Schindler's List 31. Spirited Away 32. Alien 33. Sunrise 34. Raging Bull 35. A Clockwork Orange 36. Some Like it Hot 37. Once Upon a Time in America 38. Metropolis 39. The Apartment 40. Raiders of the Lost Ark 41. The Empire Strikes Back 42. The Third Man 43. Chinatown 44. Blade Runner 45. The Matrix 46. The Great Dictator 47. The General 48. The Shawshank Redemption 49. Double Indemnity 50. All About Eve 51. The Gold Rush 52. Wild Strawberries 53. Paths of Glory 54. The 400 Blows 55. Back to the Future 56. Persona 57. 8 1/2 58. The Seventh Seal 59. Cinema Paradiso 60. Fight Club 61. Touch of Evil 62. City of God 63. Ikiru 64. Reservoir Dogs 65. Stalker 66. The Lord of the Rings 67. Gone with the Wind 68. The Silence of the Lambs 69. On the Waterfront 70. Forrest Gump 71. Ran 72. To Kill a Mockingbird 73. Annie Hall 74. The Dark Knight 75. Barry Lyndon 76. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 77. Aliens 78. La Grande illusion 79. Fanny and Alexander 80. The Deer Hunter 81. La Dolce Vita 82. The Battle of Algiers 83. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre 84. Unforgiven 85. My Neighbour Totoro 86. The Big Lebowski 87. The Night of the Hunter 88. Fargo 89. The Wizard of Oz 90. Jaws 91. Terminator 2: Judgment Day 92. WALL-E 93. Amadeus 94. Mulholland Dr. 95. Heat 96. Toy Story 97. The Kid 98. In the Mood for Love 99. The Lives of Others 100. The Grapes of Wrath 101. Notorious 102. Amélie 103. The Bridge on the River Kwai 104. The Best Years of Our Lives 105. Yojimbo 106. Groundhog Day 107. Manhattan 108. Nosferatu 109. The Maltese Falcon 110. It Happened One Night 111. The Wages of Fear 112. A Separation 113. Rosemary's Baby 114. Brazil 115. Underground 116. Casino 117. The Thing (1982) 118. Network 119. Die Hard 120. Trainspotting 121. The Exorcist 122. Pan's Labyrinth 123. Monty Python's Life of Brian 124. Magnolia 125. The Graduate 126. Throne of Blood 127. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 128. Dog Day Afternoon 129. The Terminator 130. This is Spinal Tap 131. Strangers on a Train 132. The Big Sleep 133. The Sound of Music 1998 or 1926 'The General' ? Handy list, I've started viewing some that looked interesting (YouTube trailers are great for this) and I hadn't seen. So far Seven Samurai and Pulp Fiction. Liked them both although SS seemed to drag for the first 1/4 and I don't particularly like Travolta. lol, I've seen a part of PF, Urge Overkill uses the movie for his video 'Girl, You'll be a Woman Soon'. Next up, The Big Lebowski. Wow, I wish I could watch The Big Lebowski for the first time again. Great movie! |
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