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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 10, 2015 16:02:27 GMT -5
As to Why isn't the youngster yet promoted — he hasn't earned it yet. At least not by results. He's been the 9th best hitter in the NY Penn League this year. What do you want from him? All right, I'll just shut the hell up right now. (or should I argue SSS?)
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Post by sammo420 on Aug 10, 2015 16:36:59 GMT -5
With numbers like what he's putting up, the only reason I can see for keeping a prospect back and not exposing him to higher level of competition right before the end of the season is if he were new to the country and learning the language and ways of our country. A small argument could be made for him adjusting to a wood bat, but that hasn't seemed to slow him down.
Like I said before, exposing him to higher competition in a way that lets him see it just long enough to try and get an idea of what adjustments he'll have to make to it before the end of the season makes perfect sense. Even if he's somehow completely outmatched, it's not for a long enough period of time to do any damage.
All reward, no risk promotion. Small reward, but worth it.
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 10, 2015 17:15:20 GMT -5
Adjust for BABIP and he's easily been the best. His K rate is at least three percentage points lower than any one of the eight guys ahead of him there, in case you think his batting average means anything.
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Post by arzjake on Aug 10, 2015 17:50:28 GMT -5
As to Why isn't the youngster yet promoted — he hasn't earned it yet. At least not by results. He's been the 9th best hitter in the NY Penn League this year. What do you want from him? Right on Brother! You know by now, Redsox nation is full of malcontents. Im not calling anyone out here, I'm stating a general fact. There is always the glass half full, half empty saga. There are some very good young hitters in Lowell to Greenville with a chance to make the coming years special. This is why I believe Cherington should be promoted to Pres of baseball ops, to continue the foundation he has started especially in the Third World communities. He learned from Duquette who was a master in Montreal for many years and built arguably the best scouting drafting and developmental system of its time.. Let em develop. I'll take 9 Trot Nixons over 1 MMantle any day of the week!
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Post by telson13 on Aug 10, 2015 22:43:40 GMT -5
Adjust for BABIP and he's easily been the best. His K rate is at least three percentage points lower than any one of the eight guys ahead of him there, in case you think his batting average means anything. The only guy in the top 10 with a BB:K rate over 1 (and well over, at 1.36), and he has an ISO power of almost .200. The first was predictable given his collegiate play and scouting...the latter is nice to see with wood bats. And yeah, that BABIP is about 100 points below the average for the top 10, so even with bad luck he's still been pretty damn good. Stealing bases, too. And of the top-10, he's the second-youngest. Not to be lost in all of that is Luis Alex Basabe, who's only a few spots behind Benintendi and is only 18. His BB:K is only 0.5, but his ISO is over .180, which is pretty impressive for a guy about three years younger than league average.
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Post by jmei on Aug 11, 2015 0:11:54 GMT -5
Some of the bad BABIP is earned. He's hitting a ton of IFFB.
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Post by cdj on Aug 11, 2015 7:15:29 GMT -5
Getting on base 40% of the time, hitting for a lot of power. 22 BB to 14 Ks.
A promotion wouldn't hurt him. Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things either way though.
Would be nice to add him to the super prospect team they got in Greenville
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 11, 2015 7:36:34 GMT -5
I was listening to the baseball reporters (first mistake) the other day and they mentioned Andrew Benintendi saying that he was hurt and that he was a tough guy to get along with in the clubhouse. Not that I buy any stock into "team chemistry" in baseball, but I am interested to hear if hear if anyone knew if he was a malcontent or if there was any status on his health.
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Post by cdj on Aug 11, 2015 7:46:56 GMT -5
Well if he's hurt it's not really showing up in his play.
And is the Baseball reporters Tony Mazz and co.? Wouldn't put stock into anything he says ever. The guy just says stuff to try and stir the pot, it's kind of a tired act at this point.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 11, 2015 7:50:30 GMT -5
Well if he's hurt it's not really showing up in his play. And is the Baseball reporters Tony Mazz and co.? Wouldn't put stock into anything he says ever. The guy just says stuff to try and stir the pot, it's kind of a tired act at this point. Correct. I just listen to it because it's baseball talk, but the "takes" are ridiculous.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 11, 2015 7:52:53 GMT -5
I was listening to the baseball reporters (first mistake) the other day and they mentioned Andrew Benintendi saying that he was hurt and that he was a tough guy to get along with in the clubhouse. Not that I buy any stock into "team chemistry" in baseball, but I am interested to hear if hear if anyone knew if he was a malcontent or if there was any status on his health. WHO were the reporters? Never heard anything from previous teams/teammates that he is anything but a good teammate. Who said that?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 11, 2015 7:56:37 GMT -5
I was listening to the baseball reporters (first mistake) the other day and they mentioned Andrew Benintendi saying that he was hurt and that he was a tough guy to get along with in the clubhouse. Not that I buy any stock into "team chemistry" in baseball, but I am interested to hear if hear if anyone knew if he was a malcontent or if there was any status on his health. WHO were the reporters? Never heard anything from previous teams/teammates that he is anything but a good teammate. Who said that? I believe it was Joe Murray, the second guy who does the show with Mazz, to which Mazz replied, "Oh good, he'll be up in the big leagues in no time then".
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 11, 2015 8:04:57 GMT -5
I'm surprised they even heard of him.
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Post by Gwell55 on Aug 11, 2015 9:15:25 GMT -5
Getting on base 40% of the time, hitting for a lot of power. 22 BB to 14 Ks. A promotion wouldn't hurt him. Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things either way though. Would be nice to add him to the super prospect team they got in Greenville One other thing to look at, after the length of his college run he has to make an adjustment to the pros and then wooden bats which he stated earlier that he hadn't used before and was having a time with. That makes a difference. Seems to me it might then be more important that they want him to be getting a longer stay with the same coaches and their style before moving on (and it seems to be working). At this stage of his career I think he isn't being hurt by staying there. This winter and next year is when they will evaluate his placement and goals for improvement anyway.
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Post by nomar on Aug 11, 2015 9:25:21 GMT -5
So the Boston radio media is is trying to turn him into the Manziel of baseball.
On a more credible note, his 15% IFFB rate needs to go down, especially considering that Benintendi is only in the NYPL. Hard to get away with that without hitting for a lot of power, which I'm not sure Benintendi will do in the majors.
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Post by ctfisher on Aug 11, 2015 11:01:43 GMT -5
So the Boston radio media is is trying to turn him into the Manziel of baseball. On a more credible note, his 15% IFFB rate needs to go down, especially considering that Benintendi is only in the NYPL. Hard to get away with that without hitting for a lot of power, which I'm not sure Benintendi will do in the majors. Seems like the best way to get him to adjust would be letting him see more advanced pitching for a couple weeks
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 11, 2015 11:14:20 GMT -5
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Post by RedSoxStats on Aug 11, 2015 11:26:00 GMT -5
So the Boston radio media is is trying to turn him into the Manziel of baseball. On a more credible note, his 15% IFFB rate needs to go down, especially considering that Benintendi is only in the NYPL. Hard to get away with that without hitting for a lot of power, which I'm not sure Benintendi will do in the majors. Seems like the best way to get him to adjust would be letting him see more advanced pitching for a couple weeks 9 of his 13 total infield popups came in an 8 games, 27 at-bat stretch Jul 20 to Jul 28.
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Post by cdj on Aug 11, 2015 11:30:37 GMT -5
Well he just hit another yabo
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 11, 2015 11:45:39 GMT -5
Seems like the best way to get him to adjust would be letting him see more advanced pitching for a couple weeks 9 of his 13 total infield popups came in an 8 games, 27 at-bat stretch Jul 20 to Jul 28. People, this sample size is so small it requires a high-powerred microscope to spot. Should we let it all play out a little more??
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Post by cdj on Aug 11, 2015 13:35:33 GMT -5
......and another yabo
Guy must read the forum. Seems like he wants to get to Greenville.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Aug 11, 2015 13:48:00 GMT -5
I saw Benintendi for the first time in Lowell on Saturday night. He can't be more than 5"9 and maybe 170 lbs, soaking wet. I have heard some people compare his swing to Mattingly and it does look similar. It is amazing how much power he generates from such a slight frame.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 11, 2015 14:22:10 GMT -5
I saw Benintendi for the first time in Lowell on Saturday night. He can't be more than 5"9 and maybe 170 lbs, soaking wet. I have heard some people compare his swing to Mattingly and it does look similar. It is amazing how much power he generates from such a slight frame. Hitting for power has never been just being huge or powerful. Henry Aaron is a perfect example. So is Yaz, Jimmy Wynn, Joe Morgan, Johnny Callison, and even Willie Mays. Our "Benny" is not a big man, but he has some attributes that are difficult to copy. I would be shocked if he doesn't have, at least, a 5 year range of 20+ homers per year. His swing, bat speed, and finish are pretty darn good for hitting some balls a long way. The kid's batting eye seems to be special also! Man if being big was a must for hitting the long-ball, Frank Howard would have hit 800.
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Post by danr on Aug 11, 2015 14:36:30 GMT -5
I wonder if this kid can be the Sox's Kris Bryant and make it to the show in two years?
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 11, 2015 14:46:41 GMT -5
I wonder if this kid can be the Sox's Kris Bryant and make it to the show in two years? He's not Kris Bryant, but an MLB debut in 2017 is probably the timeline, yeah.
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