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Red Sox front office personnel moves
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Post by raftsox on Sept 11, 2015 4:02:16 GMT -5
This is definitely a good tremendous counterpoint to concerns that Dombrowski won't employ analytics in his decision-making processes. FIFY. When they hired DDo and folks worried that we would move away from analytics, I posted a scenario which I was conflicted about: I wasn't sure whether I was being smart of just engaging in wistful thinking. And the scenario was that Henry hired DDo because he knew that DDo was an open-minded guy, and that the whole idea of the hiring was for DDo to embrace analytics as the one tool he hadn't really taken advantage of. Guys as smart as DDo, with that kind of track record of success, are often often-minded. People who do their jobs really well are very often the type of people who are always looking to do their job even better. It's not always the case, of course, but it's very common. It was the only way I could reconcile our knowledge of Henry's devotion to analytics with the hiring. If anything, my sense (which I've argued here a lot) that Cherington and Farrell hadn't used them enough, or well enough, and that LL, who was departing, had been an impediment to their full embrace, had made me think that we would see a movement towards more analytics. So I see this as the best possible news. I think, for instance, that it indicates that they are almost certainly going to continue with the tools for assessing amateur talent (personality profiling, neuroscouting) that have been so successful. Next we'll see Hazen or DiPoto (or a minority candidate with similar chops) named as the new GM. Further: I think that this heralds a day to day use of analytics on the MLB side which is something we haven't seen much of. (Another check mark in Dipoto's hat)
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 11, 2015 6:52:22 GMT -5
I'm skeptical that Dipoto would want the job. He quit his last job because he didn't have final say.
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Post by GyIantosca on Sept 11, 2015 6:59:37 GMT -5
I think DD came here hearing about the talent in the FO but probably had to see for himself and now he knows he has talent and he gets to mold it. This is exciting a guy this knowledgable and he teaches some of these young FO executives. I mean Ben was on par with Hazen but with Dave ,Hazen knows he could learn a lot with this guy. I hope they can retain Dipoto somehow. I also hope Allan Baird can stick around. I didn't know he tried to get the Cuban hitter Abreu here but was overruled by ownership. I don't know how he could be blamed for Panda but Gammons is saying that was his responsibility. I guess the recommendation.
I also like the movement like this guy Porter leaving they promoted within and it's good for morale to have upward movement. When Theo was here they didn't have much movement in the system but after he left it seems like more promotions I have noticed. Plus we lost a lot .
Can you I imagine all the executives around baseball that were affiliated with the Sox and there is a lot that came from New England area also. not bad from a cold weather environment.
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Post by raftsox on Sept 11, 2015 8:29:50 GMT -5
I'm skeptical that Dipoto would want the job. He quit his last job because he didn't have final say. He quit his last job because the manager wouldn't use or communicate potential game-altering information to the players. Then, Sciosia undermined his authority with the players when that information was passed along to them independent of Sciosia. Further, Dipoto's boss then said "tough sugar, I like your underling (Sciosia) better than you."
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 11, 2015 8:58:30 GMT -5
I'm skeptical that Dipoto would want the job. He quit his last job because he didn't have final say. He quit his last job because the manager wouldn't use or communicate potential game-altering information to the players. Then, Sciosia undermined his authority with the players when that information was passed along to them independent of Sciosia. Further, Dipoto's boss then said "tough sugar, I like your underling (Sciosia) better than you." I get all that, but that also indicates he didn't have final say. I would guess he'd want more authority than he'd get under Dombrowski so he doesn't possibly wind up in the same situation. This is total speculation of course. Or maybe they're auditioning each other right now to see how it might work. Actually, I'm curious if they're already pushing the analytics on Luvello just with his bunting comment the other day.
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Post by artfuldodger on Sept 12, 2015 4:06:48 GMT -5
I am wondering what the chances are of retaining Hazen as GM and bringing on a prominent outsider as either Vice President, Baseball Development (Littlefield'ti title with the Tigers) or Senior Vice President, Baseball Operations (similar to Watson's title with the Diamondbacks) with both people reporting directly to DD.
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 14, 2015 9:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 14, 2015 11:04:01 GMT -5
Yeah, that was solid Gammons ... very knowledgable, informative, relentlessly positive, plus some overt "beat sweetening" giving credit to a number of front office types (not that there's anything wrong with that). The Dombrowski quote about having resources to put into infrastructure is a particularly interesting one. It implies that resource management issues contributed to the small analytics department in Detroit. Overall, the early days of the Dombrowski regime make me really optimistic that this is a positive move forward. A lot of good work by Cherington, but Dombrowski seems to possibly be taking things to the next level. Some of that is that he has the full power that Cherington never did, I'm sure. Some of it may just be that he's one of the best GMs of his era and Cherington was a solid choice that was really good at some things and not as good at others. hard to know the full details from the outside.
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Post by soxfanatic on Nov 16, 2015 17:57:29 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe\ #RedSox name Kiyoshi Momose as their new strength and conditioning coach. Was with Pirates.
Has been in the Pirates organization for 14 years. Apparently speaks Japanese, English and Spanish fluently.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 16, 2015 21:11:52 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe\ #RedSox name Kiyoshi Momose as their new strength and conditioning coach. Was with Pirates. Has been in the Pirates organization for 14 years. Apparently speaks Japanese, English and Spanish fluently. Now that is a useful set of skills. Doesn't matter who wanders in for a workout, he's got it covered. From the Japan Times: Pirates coach Momose making most of skills
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Post by nomar on Nov 16, 2015 22:53:44 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe\ #RedSox name Kiyoshi Momose as their new strength and conditioning coach. Was with Pirates. Has been in the Pirates organization for 14 years. Apparently speaks Japanese, English and Spanish fluently. Kenta Maeda and Iwakuma to Boston confirmed.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 16, 2015 23:30:09 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe\ #RedSox name Kiyoshi Momose as their new strength and conditioning coach. Was with Pirates. Has been in the Pirates organization for 14 years. Apparently speaks Japanese, English and Spanish fluently. Kenta Maeda and Iwakuma to Boston confirmed. Well Iwakuma might be a very useful piece. Check back with the links when you can... Coming to you from the great Northwest
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Post by nomar on Nov 16, 2015 23:45:01 GMT -5
Kenta Maeda and Iwakuma to Boston confirmed. Well Iwakuma might be a very useful piece. Check back with the links when you can... Coming to you from the great Northwest I love Iwakuma but he was QO'd. I want no part of Maeda. He averages 90 mph and doesn't have crazy movement on his pitches. Prob a 4th starter.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 17, 2015 0:43:26 GMT -5
Shucks...
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 14, 2015 17:37:57 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 5m5 minutes ago Sources: Amiel Sawdaye, #RedSox VP of amateur and int’l scouting, interviewed for #BlueJays’ GM position before team hired Ross Atkins.
Yikes
(EDIT: I know it's repetitive but moved this from the Dave Dombrowski/ Ben Cherington thread)
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 10, 2016 14:46:19 GMT -5
From Cafardo's Sunday Notes today: I remember Norton as a solid PH/PT hitter who had that really strong season for Tampa in 2006. Just checked the numbers, and he slashed .415/.467/.780/1.247 in 46 PA's vs. the Sox that season. Had no idea about his mother's murder -- very tragic story all around, and a powerful piece by Bowman on it.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 10, 2016 17:02:11 GMT -5
One of life's great mysteries, why some triumph over adversity, while others fall by the wayside.
I'm reading my wintertime baseball book, Hayhurst's Bullpen Gospels. This adds more depth to it, gives meaning to what you might absorb from that minor league coach over there in the corner.
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Post by tonyc on Jan 12, 2016 20:12:14 GMT -5
Norm, in a sense it is a great and the most important mystery too. The answer lies in the fact that humans do have a degree of latitude in that the thoughts which you process in interpreting an event plays a more significant role in the internal emotions and subsequent programming you derive than the actual event itself. This was something I studied for years after coursework at the Ken Keyes center in Coosbay in your very own Oregon. He fused humanistic psychology with Buddhist principles into a day to day practice of positive phrases, and internal deep examination into thoughts and emotions to create positive interventions. His Handbook to Higher Consciousness is still relevant today. A contemporary spiritual philosopher, Eckart Tolle speaks eloquently on this topic, as did Alan Watts years ago.
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Post by jimoh on Jan 15, 2016 7:51:21 GMT -5
Wilton Veras moves from DSL hitting coach to Lowell hitting coach. Gammons thought he was going to be great after he hit 291 .319 .468 .787 with 16hrs at age 20 in AA; talked about his "hitter's hands". Had about 300 PAs in Boston. I hope his low walk totals came from his physical makeup and not his philosophy, and he's not teaching people to hit like that.
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Post by nomar on Jan 15, 2016 8:24:07 GMT -5
Wilton Veras moves from DSL hitting coach to Lowell hitting coach. Gammons thought he was going to be great after he hit 291 .319 .468 .787 with 16hrs at age 20 in AA; talked about his "hitter's hands". Had about 300 PAs in Boston. I hope his low walk totals came from his physical makeup and not his philosophy, and he's not teaching people to hit like that. I think it's fair to say that everyone would walk 10+% of the time if they could. Some people can't lay off some bad pitches. Middlebrooks, for example, will probably retire soon because of his lack of discipline. He definitely knows it's an issue, but some people just can't correct it.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 15, 2016 10:48:30 GMT -5
Veras didn't strikeout like Middlebrooks did/does though. Players with high strikeout/low walk numbers almost certainly have more of a skill deficiency as opposed to a problem with their approach. Players who both walk and strikeout infrequently (and struggle) may be taking an overly aggressive approach. I can't speak to the situation with Veras specifically, though, and I would be pretty shocked that the Red Sox would hire him if his coaching philosophy was "hey, make sure to swing at everything!"
Looking back at Veras's career it reminds me again how weird player development was under the (now-romanticized) Duquette regime. He had a very strong season as a 20-year old with Double-A Trenton in 1998, hitting .291/.319/.468 in 502 plate appearances. Now, his walk total was extremely low (only 15 all season), and the team had John Valentin in the majors and Cole Liniak (who they were supposedly high on) in Triple-A, so I suppose there was some argument for keeping him in Trenton to start the 1999. But then when Valentin got hurt, they turned to Veras, rather than Liniak. If Veras was ahead of Liniak on the depth chart, then why the heck wasn't he with Pawtucket? Why, when Valentin came back, was he sent back to Portland in deference to a player he was ahead of the depth chart? Stop romanticizing Dan Duquette, people.
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Post by ianrs on Jan 15, 2016 20:42:46 GMT -5
One of life's great mysteries, why some triumph over adversity, while others fall by the wayside. I'm reading my wintertime baseball book, Hayhurst's Bullpen Gospels. This adds more depth to it, gives meaning to what you might absorb from that minor league coach over there in the corner. There's actually a really interesting line of genetics and psychological research showing that there exist two types of people based on genome: "orchids" and "dandelions." Orchids thrive only in the best, extremely nurturing environments, and typically crumple in the face of adversity (particularly early life stressors). Dandelions can thrive in any type of environment, regardless of adversity. This is just a theory and not gospel, but interesting if you think what you stated is a real phenomenon. I'm traveling now, but will post a link to a source for more reading later for those that are interested.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 15, 2016 22:54:50 GMT -5
My own opinion, and it's just that, is that this is all rooted in biological diversity. The species evolved a wide range of types, in response to different cultural, societal, and environmental needs and conditions. Those different types have been useful at different times in our history. That idea doesn't sit well with some folks. While there's no doubt there are significant differences in personalities and how we each approach existence, there's no consensus about how many of those differences are wired, and how many aren't. It may be more than we realize.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 16, 2016 5:50:11 GMT -5
The recent isolation of Cro Magnon DNA threatens to turn those and other general genetic theories upside down.
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Post by ericmvan on Jan 16, 2016 11:44:44 GMT -5
Veras didn't strikeout like Middlebrooks did/does though. Players with high strikeout/low walk numbers almost certainly have more of a skill deficiency as opposed to a problem with their approach. Players who both walk and strikeout infrequently (and struggle) may be taking an overly aggressive approach. I can't speak to the situation with Veras specifically, though, and I would be pretty shocked that the Red Sox would hire him if his coaching philosophy was "hey, make sure to swing at everything!" Looking back at Veras's career it reminds me again how weird player development was under the (now-romanticized) Duquette regime. He had a very strong season as a 20-year old with Double-A Trenton in 1998, hitting .291/.319/.468 in 502 plate appearances. Now, his walk total was extremely low (only 15 all season), and the team had John Valentin in the majors and Cole Liniak (who they were supposedly high on) in Triple-A, so I suppose there was some argument for keeping him in Trenton to start the 1999. But then when Valentin got hurt, they turned to Veras, rather than Liniak. If Veras was ahead of Liniak on the depth chart, then why the heck wasn't he with Pawtucket? Why, when Valentin came back, was he sent back to Portland in deference to a player he was ahead of the depth chart? Stop romanticizing Dan Duquette, people. Duquette was only guilty of listening to his manager. It was widely reported at the time that Jimy Williams, after seeing Veras in ST, loved him and was convinced he could hit in MLB. As in, many inches of ink devoted to it. It was not widely reported that there were people who knew this was completely insane. I had forgotten about the Veras versus Liniak thing. It suggests that DD was indeed just giving Williams the player he wanted. Choosing a manager is a GM decision that often gets overlooked in its importance. Both Gorman and Duquette made awful choices. John McNamara was Lou's, of course. Williams was a great and radical handler of the pitching staff, a superb teacher of defense and coach of defensive positioning, and had no more ability to judge offensive ability than a head of cabbage. He compensated for this weakness by choosing his starting lineup, when he had to make a choice, based solely on defensive ability. He was a good manager as long as everyone was healthy and all he had to do was write in the starting lineup that Duquette had acquired. As soon as there was a vacancy to fill, though, he sent you to the dictionary for words more extreme than "inept." Check out the 2000 Sox, where he gave 1250+ PA to guys who were replacement level or worse, while having better alternatives. (He also, I'm convinced, created the entire Carl Everett problem. It was clear that DD acquired Everett so Williams would stop playing Darren Lewis in CF. The Sox started 2000 1-3, scoring only 10 runs in the process, with Everett starting in CF and batting 3rd. For game 5, Williams put Lewis in CF and had Everett DH, and moved him to 6th in the batting order. The only problem with that is that Everett was 6/14, HR, 2 BB while his teammates weren't hitting a thing.)
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