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Post by texs31 on Dec 18, 2015 10:56:32 GMT -5
Sure. Trades now will be more likely exchanges of similar talents that just might have a better fit elsewhere. For example, the idea of Markieff Morris for Ryan Anderson has been floated around. Neither team is "selling" with this deal, per se (even though NO is terrible) but both might be improving with this "Change of Scenery" deal.
A subsequent sell off would still be possible.
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Post by bookiemetts on Dec 18, 2015 19:52:59 GMT -5
His 3PT% last year and college and so far in the NBA are flat out bad. His shot looks good, but considering this sample size he has to be doing somethings slightly wrong. Isaiah Thomas will be an all star I think. Someone on the Celtics need to be and two way players like Bradley never get enough credit. I think RJ is actually hurt right now. There was a report like a week or two ago that he hurt his hip or something. Young is getting more minutes cause RJ and Smart can't play so they're a little thin on wings. Edit: of course once I post this RJ checks into the game lol |
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Post by texs31 on Dec 18, 2015 21:36:12 GMT -5
FREEDOM! !!!!!!!!
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 19, 2015 9:34:15 GMT -5
Heisenberg... Don't look now but the Spurs are actually better than the Warriors.... Wait what did he just say? Blasphemy!!!! But it's true...
Ok, before I start WWIII, I'm not really saying they are better, but if the Warriors were not defending champs and both teams were just off to the starts they were and we analyzed some numbers and rosters REALLY strong arguments can be made that not only are they having a better year but they are also a terrible match up for the Warriors.
The Spurs are the only team in the NBA that is in the top 3 for both offensive and defensive rating. Offensively, the Warriors are top dog, no question, but The Spurs are third. Defensively, the Spurs aren't just first, they are on pace to be a top 3 team in history. This gives them a better net rating than the Warriors. The Warriors are a very good defensive team though in their own right.
The Spurs do seem to match up well versus the Warriors since they seem to struggle with low post players and Duncan, Aldridge and David West (slowly coming along), will be a difficult challenge. LA really is just starting to find his place in San Antonio, which is scary for the Warriors. Leonard is a complete stud on both sides of the ball and the old 3 are able to get plenty of regular season rest to be fresh for the playoffs.
The Warriors are a fast paced team and have energy, shooting and Steph Curry which you can say is a bad match up for the Spurs.
All I can say is it's no slam dunk who's the best team in the league anymore and I really hope we get to see both these teams healthy facing off in the Western Conference finals because that would be must see TV and I can't remember when the NBA had such a match up. Two great teams that are exciting AND play quality basketball is a rarity to say the least.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 19, 2015 16:30:20 GMT -5
I have seen a few Spurs game and that team is flat out incredible, not so sure if better than the Warriors though (they have better numbers, but not by much and they have been healthier). I think saying one is objectively better than the other right now is nitpicking, like saying the new Mad Max is better than the new Star Wars. It sort of is, but both are so great that who cares.
If we don't get a Spurs/Warriors western conference finals this year I give up on the NBA.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 23, 2015 14:48:01 GMT -5
A bit late, but:  Goddamn. |
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Post by philarhody on Dec 25, 2015 22:14:51 GMT -5
In my mind, there are three NBA all-stars in this upcoming draft: Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, and Kris Dunn. Any player after those three are borderline starters (Jakob Poeltl, Jamal Murray) or lottery tickets (Labissiere or possibly Furkan Korkmaz) so the Celtics landing a top three pick with the Brooklyn selection is extremely important.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 26, 2015 0:19:25 GMT -5
Agreed, another lottery ticket that I very much like if we don't get a high pick is Henry Ellenson from Marquette. He has range, range to 3 even, he rebounds, he hits the FT, he's agile and subtly physical and he runs the break smoothly with the ball in his hands making good reads and smart passes. I like it.
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Post by texs31 on Dec 26, 2015 8:43:12 GMT -5
Bender is in the lotto ticket category, too.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 27, 2015 1:11:45 GMT -5
What a great win over a solid Detroit win. I'm getting aboard the crazy nonsensical hype train, it's getting really hard to hold back.
If you were ranking current NBA coaches, who would you put ahead of Stevens right now? Pop obviously. Carlisle, for sure. I definitely see Frank Vogel as well being there. Thibs when he gets back without having to deal with the Bulls FO shenanigans. Oh, almost forgot Kerr, even if was away during The Streak it still very much was his team. But the beautiful part is that aside from Pop, who's the clear number one, the order of these guys could vary wildly in the upcoming season. It's exciting.
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Post by philarhody on Dec 29, 2015 0:12:41 GMT -5
Again, I really think this draft comes down to three players who will most likely go one through three. If the Celts draft fourth, they would be incredibly fortunate if a team in front of them gets cute and drafts Dragan Bender over Kris Dunn. Toni Kukoc adds little to a team of above average role players. Dwyane Wade turns this celtic's team into contenders.
Barring a trade for a Carmelo Anthony type player, this draft will be the last opportunity for Boston to potentially land a star for the foreseeable future.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Dec 29, 2015 3:04:18 GMT -5
Again, I really think this draft comes down to three players who will most likely go one through three. If the Celts draft fourth, they would be incredibly fortunate if a team in front of them gets cute and drafts Dragan Bender over Kris Dunn. Toni Kukoc adds little to a team of above average role players. Dwyane Wade turns this celtic's team into contenders. Barring a trade for a Carmelo Anthony type player, this draft will be the last opportunity for Boston to potentially land a star for the foreseeable future. Why is it the last opportunity? They have the Nets pick for the next three years. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 29, 2015 9:18:45 GMT -5
The Nets won't be a playoff team any time soon especially since the East is now a lot deeper than the West. However, they aren't as bad as we think they are right now, and will be better next year when they are dumb and spend their cap room on quality players who will put them into purgatory like the Pistons did. This just means the odds will be that those picks are in the 7-10
Range.
I don't know the international class well enough yet to say how many good players are in this draft. However, even Ingram won't help an NBA team much for w couple years. Which puts his bust rate pretty high. I'm a Duke guy and I can't see him playing in the NBA next year. I mean he will get drafted and be on a roster but he will be eaten alive.
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 29, 2015 9:59:42 GMT -5
Again, I really think this draft comes down to three players who will most likely go one through three. If the Celts draft fourth, they would be incredibly fortunate if a team in front of them gets cute and drafts Dragan Bender over Kris Dunn. Toni Kukoc adds little to a team of above average role players. Dwyane Wade turns this celtic's team into contenders. Barring a trade for a Carmelo Anthony type player, this draft will be the last opportunity for Boston to potentially land a star for the foreseeable future. Why is it the last opportunity? They have the Nets pick for the next three years. Outside of Simmons the lottery is not what makes this team a true contender next year and that might even be a stretch given his age. In todays format the highest picks are usually freshman coming out after 1 year and it takes them time to grow and adjust to the NBA. Yes it happens but very few actually excel in their first yr or 2, not to mention busting completely. Just look at the Timberwolves, they are playing well but not well enough to win, which would make us all happy. Danny has to make a big signing or a big trade, maybe both, to take the C's to the next level. He has the $$ and he has the assets to do it. Now he also has the coach that is respected around the league to maybe draw the interest of a star that would normally want to go some place warm and more inviting. The Nets lottery picks are great to have as assets for sure but more in adding to an already very good team than as the tool that takes the C's over the top in the short run. So, who is that guy? In a trade or a signing who is it that fits this coach's profile and this teams makeup that is a bonafide star? |
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Post by philarhody on Dec 29, 2015 13:25:41 GMT -5
The Nets won't be a playoff team any time soon especially since the East is now a lot deeper than the West. However, they aren't as bad as we think they are right now, and will be better next year when they are dumb and spend their cap room on quality players who will put them into purgatory like the Pistons did. This just means the odds will be that those picks are in the 7-10 Range. I don't know the international class well enough yet to say how many good players are in this draft. However, even Ingram won't help an NBA team much for w couple years. Which puts his bust rate pretty high. I'm a Duke guy and I can't see him playing in the NBA next year. I mean he will get drafted and be on a roster but he will be eaten alive. Ingram scores at every level. 3 pt range. Aggressive. There's only one other player on Earth with his combination of offensive skill and length, and he could be the NBA's highest paid player in 2016-2017. Yeh he's skinny. He's also a guard. Oh yeh his PER is currently 27.0. I can't think of a single player with his combination of size, skill level and production being a bust. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 30, 2015 6:54:43 GMT -5
The league is littered with them. It's just revisionist history when we look back at the lists and say "yea but this guy didn't make it because of X".
I hate this type of discussion because I'm going to sound like I don't like a player I really like, but it's the nature of the beast. But try to read this as being from someone who would be very happy getting the player and who likes the player. It's not that he's skinny, it's that he's very skinny and very weak. He will get eaten alive defensively and he's not a polished shooter just yet. You talk about players being young, this kid is young for college freshmen which means he's going to be even younger than the typical kid coming out. He won't be an impact player in year one.
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Post by philarhody on Dec 30, 2015 12:57:41 GMT -5
I'm not going to belabor my point in expressing my excitement on a potential NBA lottery pick in a Red Sox prospects forum. Actually, what am I saying? Of course I will! You will not ruin baby Durantula for me, rjp313jr!!!
Just name one. And remember now: Darius Miles shot .168 from 3.
He's a guard. With a 7-3 wingspan. Who has been very active on defense this year. He'll be ok
Sounds terrible.
And we agree! If by impact you mean the first teenager to make an all nba team. Or by being a superstar as a teenage rookie.
But he is going to be a problem in isolation from day one. This is the NBA, not the NFL. Kevin Durant couldn't bench press 175 when he entered the league.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 30, 2015 16:08:04 GMT -5
What a strange argument.
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Post by wcp3 on Dec 30, 2015 21:37:48 GMT -5
Marcus Smart sparks a big run.
Stevens benches Smart.
Lakers immediately go on a run.
Stevens' substitutions this year continue to be baffling.
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Post by philarhody on Dec 30, 2015 23:07:27 GMT -5
Marcus Smart sparks a big run. Stevens benches Smart. Lakers immediately go on a run. Stevens' substitutions this year continue to be baffling. Minutes limit perhaps? Tough loss regardless |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 30, 2015 23:14:14 GMT -5
Hey the Nets lost to Orlando cheer up. This is the year.
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Post by philarhody on Jan 1, 2016 4:44:11 GMT -5
Hey the Nets lost to Orlando cheer up. This is the year. That's the spirit! |
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Post by philarhody on Jan 2, 2016 18:05:53 GMT -5
Awful, horrible, putrid loss to the Nets
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Post by wcp3 on Jan 3, 2016 8:55:13 GMT -5
When your coach insists on playing Olynyk, Jerebko, and Zeller together, you deserve to lose.
There's no excuse for keeping Smart out of the starting lineup any longer.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 3, 2016 11:07:47 GMT -5
This team is good, but it's so damn inconsistent. A trade for a good sort of two-way big would do wonders, but I wonder if one is hitting the market at all.
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