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8/7 Gameday Thread: Mejia vs Kopech; Rowdy Ronny Raudes
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 6, 2016 21:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 7, 2016 13:07:05 GMT -5
Haley with a 5 hit shutout (7 innings) in game 1 for the Pawsox.
Couchy baby with a 1-hit shutout through the first 4 innings for the Sea Dogs.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 7, 2016 13:14:12 GMT -5
Couchy baby with a 1-hit shutout through the first 4 innings for the Sea Dogs. Keeping his focus after a string of demotions and promotions no less. Dude's just a pro.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 7, 2016 13:15:47 GMT -5
No Moncada, hope his ankle is OK.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 7, 2016 13:45:27 GMT -5
Any photoshop pros able to give us a photo of Rowdy Ronnie Raudes?
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Post by Costigan on Aug 7, 2016 14:26:10 GMT -5
Anuery is just on fire lately. Two home runs so far today and his batting average is up to .330.
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Post by bnich on Aug 7, 2016 15:21:28 GMT -5
No Moncada, hope his ankle is OK. Most have reported he should be out about a week. Grade 1 ankle sprain.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 7, 2016 15:44:15 GMT -5
McEachern from LOW to Salem; LeClerc to TIA.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 7, 2016 15:47:16 GMT -5
Vinicio added back to PawSox roster, Janssen opted out (per Brendan McGair).
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 7, 2016 15:55:45 GMT -5
Note to staff: Allen Craig is still playing with Lowell. He has not been activated from the Pawtucket DL.
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 7, 2016 16:11:00 GMT -5
Kopech went 3.2 with not allowing a hit. Then fell apart. Line drive single, wild pitch, line drive single, walk.
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Post by nomar on Aug 7, 2016 17:29:14 GMT -5
7K 4BB 5IP.
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 7, 2016 17:35:54 GMT -5
Kopech went 3.2 with not allowing a hit. Then fell apart. Line drive single, wild pitch, line drive single, walk. Well, falling apart means different things to different people. He wasn't lights out like last time, but not not sure how much he fell apart when he he ended up going 5IP, no ER's 3H and 7K's. Yes 4BB's also. Decent outing other than the BB's. But, but . . . . I thought he had outstanding control?
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Post by telluricrook on Aug 7, 2016 17:37:58 GMT -5
Kopech went 3.2 with not allowing a hit. Then fell apart. Line drive single, wild pitch, line drive single, walk. Another Reverse Jynx! Im on Fire!
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 7, 2016 17:46:22 GMT -5
Kopech went 3.2 with not allowing a hit. Then fell apart. Line drive single, wild pitch, line drive single, walk. Well, falling apart means different things to different people. He wasn't lights out like last time, but not not sure how much he fell apart when he he ended up going 5IP, no ER's 3H and 7K's. Yes 4BB's also. Decent outing other than the BB's. But, but . . . . I thought he had outstanding control? He wasn't trying hard. I can tell by looking at the box score.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 7, 2016 17:54:53 GMT -5
Anuery is just on fire lately. Two home runs so far today and his batting average is up to .330. At what point do we consider him, and similarly, Justin Haley, as genuine pop-up prospects. Haley seems like a viable swingman/5 to me already, or (especially if the velo hopped up a bit in short stints), a legit 7th/8th inning guy.
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Post by malynn19 on Aug 7, 2016 18:15:26 GMT -5
Kopech went 3.2 with not allowing a hit. Then fell apart. Line drive single, wild pitch, line drive single, walk. 5IP, no ER's 3H and 7K's. Yes 4BB's also. Decent outing other than the BB's. Pretty good outing. Also Devers 3 for 5, 3B and 3 RBIs
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Post by carmenfanzone on Aug 7, 2016 21:00:01 GMT -5
I know he is old for his level and was probably just signed to be an organizational filler type guy, but all Jayce Ray does is hit. I wouldn't even know who he is but I saw him take batting practice i sprig training and was impressed ( even though I admit I do not really know what to look for like others on this board). I am wondering, could he be another Nava?
I like those kind of stories and am hoping the Red Sox will let him play a little more this month.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 8, 2016 1:42:49 GMT -5
Anuery is just on fire lately. Two home runs so far today and his batting average is up to .330. At what point do we consider him, and similarly, Justin Haley, as genuine pop-up prospects. Haley seems like a viable swingman/5 to me already, or (especially if the velo hopped up a bit in short stints), a legit 7th/8th inning guy. Tavarez the last 3 years (excluding 2 brief stints in Pawtucket): .191 / .238 / .344 (170 PA), Salem, through 6/5/14 .299 / .348 / .487 (206 PA), Salem, rest of 2014 .280 / .368 / .447 (153 PA), Salem, 2015, to promotion on 5/23 .226 / .261 / .355 (248 PA), Portland, rest of 2015 .244 / .314 / .319 (154 PA), Portland, through 6/8/16 .404 / .431 / .654 (167 PA), Portland, since I'm going to have to break this down by K%, BB%, etc. There seem to be changes in approach.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 8, 2016 5:39:08 GMT -5
I know he is old for his level and was probably just signed to be an organizational filler type guy, but all Jayce Ray does is hit. I wouldn't even know who he is but I saw him take batting practice i sprig training and was impressed ( even though I admit I do not really know what to look for like others on this board). I am wondering, could he be another Nava? I like those kind of stories and am hoping the Red Sox will let him play a little more this month. Bears a striking resemblance, too, to Christian Vasquez, in his photo.
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Post by deepjohn on Aug 8, 2016 14:11:50 GMT -5
Well, falling apart means different things to different people. He wasn't lights out like last time, but not not sure how much he fell apart when he he ended up going 5IP, no ER's 3H and 7K's. Yes 4BB's also. Decent outing other than the BB's. But, but . . . . I thought he had outstanding control? He wasn't trying hard. I can tell by looking at the box score. Kopech has outstanding SPOT, by which we mean that he pitches to spots that avoid hard contact. Again, in this outing he did not give up an extra base hit over 22 TBF. This brings his ISO-against (a simple proxy for SPOT) at Salem to about 5/120 or .040. For lots of reasons, SPOT could be the most important metric for reducing runs allowed. Having SPOT means that walks and soft singles are much less likely to lead to runs when hitters can't hit enough to score the runners, especially when Kopech strikes out 30+%. As it happens, no earned runs did score, even with 7 base runners, and Kopech's ERA is 1.08 even with a relatively high number of walks. SPOT is meant for looking at the box score and the log, although with Pitchf/x data, SPOT can be measured more precisely. Just going by box scores and logs, it looks like Kopech had another in a highly consistent series of dominant performances. jmei, I'm coming for your profile pic.
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Post by mandelbro on Aug 8, 2016 14:33:58 GMT -5
Any photoshop pros able to give us a photo of Rowdy Ronnie Raudes? MS Paint >>> Photoshop
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 8, 2016 16:49:54 GMT -5
He wasn't trying hard. I can tell by looking at the box score. Kopech has outstanding SPOT, by which we mean that he pitches to spots that avoid hard contact. Again, in this outing he did not give up an extra base hit over 22 TBF. This brings his ISO-against (a simple proxy for SPOT) at Salem to about 5/120 or .040. For lots of reasons, SPOT could be the most important metric for reducing runs allowed. Having SPOT means that walks and soft singles are much less likely to lead to runs when hitters can't hit enough to score the runners, especially when Kopech strikes out 30+%. As it happens, no earned runs did score, even with 7 base runners, and Kopech's ERA is 1.08 even with a relatively high number of walks. SPOT is meant for looking at the box score and the log, although with Pitchf/x data, SPOT can be measured more precisely. Just going by box scores and logs, it looks like Kopech had another in a highly consistent series of dominant performances. jmei, I'm coming for your profile pic. So you argue that he walks people on purpose. Yeah, ok.
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Post by deepjohn on Aug 8, 2016 17:23:41 GMT -5
Kopech has outstanding SPOT, by which we mean that he pitches to spots that avoid hard contact. Again, in this outing he did not give up an extra base hit over 22 TBF. This brings his ISO-against (a simple proxy for SPOT) at Salem to about 5/120 or .040. For lots of reasons, SPOT could be the most important metric for reducing runs allowed. Having SPOT means that walks and soft singles are much less likely to lead to runs when hitters can't hit enough to score the runners, especially when Kopech strikes out 30+%. As it happens, no earned runs did score, even with 7 base runners, and Kopech's ERA is 1.08 even with a relatively high number of walks. SPOT is meant for looking at the box score and the log, although with Pitchf/x data, SPOT can be measured more precisely. Just going by box scores and logs, it looks like Kopech had another in a highly consistent series of dominant performances. jmei, I'm coming for your profile pic. So you argue that he walks people on purpose. Yeah, ok. Well, the theory of SPOT is that it's better to hit your SPOT and avoid hard contact, than it is to throw a get-me-over pitch, and risk the extra base hit. But yes, I agree with you, technically ... the SPOT is likely to include an area off the plate. We'd need to look at Kopech's Pitchf/x data to get a picture of his SPOT (or SPOTs). Also, the walk rate is affected by the swing%. Overmatched hitters may just keep the bat on their shoulders, which will lead to more BBs, but also to even more Ks, since Kopech's K-BB rate has been about 20%.
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 8, 2016 18:26:41 GMT -5
If overmatched hitter will keep the bat on their shoulders and Kopech has such great control, he should walk very few batters, not more. You really sound ridiculous. But you know that. You're taking a contrarian pov just for the sake of being contrarian. If everyone was saying this about Kopech, you wouldn't be.
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