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Post by nomar on Mar 11, 2020 17:32:48 GMT -5
Wasn’t serious about Ward Figured I missed something. All our hopes now go onto Luis Perales. Remember the day the Sox had all three of them in their system? Kopech, Espinoza, and Groome? Well technically they had just drafted Groome the night before (I was so excited about that! Still think he's their best shot at a top notch starter), but then the next day they dealt away Espinoza for Pomeranz and there went my dreams of Kopech, Espinoza, and Groome leading the Red Sox staff in the early 20s. I guess that fizzled faster than Paul Wilson, Jason Isringhausen, and Bill Pulsipher on the mid-90s Mets. TINSTAAPP. I will always get way more excited for great position player prospects. For pitching, I love tantalizing upside, but having a bunch of lottery tickets seems like a better bet than throwing all your eggs into one arm/basket. While the Sox farm isn’t great, there is more strength in numbers when it comes to pitching than there’s been in a while (though I guess if we kept Montas we would’ve had less to complain about in recent years).
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 11, 2020 18:59:49 GMT -5
Figured I missed something. All our hopes now go onto Luis Perales. Remember the day the Sox had all three of them in their system? Kopech, Espinoza, and Groome? Well technically they had just drafted Groome the night before (I was so excited about that! Still think he's their best shot at a top notch starter), but then the next day they dealt away Espinoza for Pomeranz and there went my dreams of Kopech, Espinoza, and Groome leading the Red Sox staff in the early 20s. I guess that fizzled faster than Paul Wilson, Jason Isringhausen, and Bill Pulsipher on the mid-90s Mets. TINSTAAPP. I will always get way more excited for great position player prospects. For pitching, I love tantalizing upside, but having a bunch of lottery tickets seems like a better bet than throwing all your eggs into one arm/basket. While the Sox farm isn’t great, there is more strength in numbers when it comes to pitching than there’s been in a while (though I guess if we kept Montas we would’ve had less to complain about in recent years). I don't disagree, but isn't there a happy medium somewhere? I mean, TINSTAAPP, yet I remember as a kid being excited as hell about some young phenom I watched in New Britain by the name of Roger Clemens. He joined a home grown rotation that featured Bruce Hurst, Bob Ojeda, Oil Can Boyd, and Al Nipper and that had recently dealt away John Tudor. I mean, in the last decade they haven't developed a legit starting pitcher. That should be an issue, no? I guess on the one hand it didn't stop them from winning a couple of championships although Lester had a big hand in one and Buchholz contributed. OTOH, here they are with severe pitching issues, and man, could they use a viable mid-rotation or better starting pitcher coming up through the system! I'd feel better about the future if that were the case, but I don't see much in the way of pitching help in the future beyond bullpen buys that make me think that the pitching will be championship caliber eventually.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 11, 2020 19:14:09 GMT -5
Pitching development kinda feels like part picking the rights guys and development and part luck. For every Lester, Papelbon, Sanchez group, you get what we have had lately in busts or it seems like everyone needing TJ surgery. The recent approach seems solid. They are taking both College and High School arms.
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Post by jimoh on Mar 13, 2020 20:12:07 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 13, 2020 20:41:02 GMT -5
That's sad. Too young. He was part of that big deal that brought Eckersley to Boston. He was in a package that included Rick Wise and other youngsters Mike Paxton and Bo Diaz. He didn't get those 6 hits off AAA pitchers. He got them off of really good pitchers playing on .600 teams (which Boston was, too in 1977).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 14, 2020 17:10:27 GMT -5
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Post by chrisfromnc on Mar 23, 2020 15:27:28 GMT -5
So I am in the middle of listening to a Buster Olney Podcast with Dave Roberts. The main thrust of the interview is his stolen base in Game 4 against the Yankees in 2004.
He is going into a ton of detail about that stolen base. It is pure gold. Do yourself a favor and listen to it. Apologies for not linking it, but I am on a work computer typing this and it doesn't let me access a podcast.
edit. I’ve listened to the whole podcast now. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Roberts memory of that stolen base is incredibly detailed. The Sox had a bunt on, he got Tito to take the bunt off. He knew when he got a great jump that he had the base stolen but he was surprised looking at replays how close it was. It goes on and on.
He he was stunned and disappointed that he got traded to the Sox and even made up an excuse to delay reporting to the team for a day so he could get his head straight. Manny welcomed him as soon as he walked into the clubhouse and he talked about how great the welcome of the other players was.
It it is a dynamite interview. Listen to it. What else do you have to do right now?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 26, 2020 14:54:28 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 27, 2020 8:08:27 GMT -5
Thought the same.
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Post by ramireja on Mar 30, 2020 11:04:36 GMT -5
Just a couple weeks ago marked 10 years since Ryan Westmoreland had his emergency brain stem surgery. The Globe has a piece on his life this past decade. I for one would love to see the guy reach the majors in some coaching capacity (mental skills coach?) later in life. It's a hard read at times....couldn't be pulling more for him to happily live out the rest of his life with purpose.
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Post by iakovos11 on Mar 30, 2020 11:11:22 GMT -5
Just a couple weeks ago marked 10 years since Ryan Westmoreland had his emergency brain stem surgery. The Globe has a piece on his life this past decade. I for one would love to see the guy reach the majors in some coaching capacity (mental skills coach?) later in life. It's a hard read at times....couldn't be pulling more for him to happily live out the rest of his life with purpose. Slight aside, I was listening to an interview/live performance a weeks ago on Alt Nation (Sirius/XM). It was for Grouplove's new album release. They were talking about their hiatus and how one of the members had to have brain surgery. Further in the interview, she mentioned it was a cavernous malformation. I immediately thought of Ryan. Everything comes back to baseball. Agree about RW getting an opportunity to make the big leagues in a coaching capacity.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 1, 2020 12:39:59 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 14, 2020 8:16:39 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 14, 2020 9:11:12 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on Apr 21, 2020 17:30:03 GMT -5
James is doing an awesome job and I'm really enjoying his 'where are they now' series. Pitchers, Vol. 1 features the three pitchers traded for Addison Reed in addition to the guy who was viewed as the 3rd or 4th piece of the Kimbrel trade at the time it went down. Also, if you missed them...peep his review of our system's former Outfielders and an in-depth piece on the two pitchers shipped out for Eduardo Nunez. Can you name the latter pitchers? Good piece of scouting by the Giants on that trade.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 27, 2020 7:31:59 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on Apr 27, 2020 17:47:32 GMT -5
Dunne's ' Where Are They Now? - Pitchers Vol. 2' features some of the highest upside arms to pass through our organization this past decade. One pitcher from the prior decade's farm system even gets a brief writeup (despite giving up the most hits in the NL last year).
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 28, 2020 8:25:22 GMT -5
Dunne's ' Where Are They Now? - Pitchers Vol. 2' features some of the highest upside arms to pass through our organization this past decade. One pitcher from the prior decade's farm system even gets a brief writeup (despite giving up the most hits in the NL last year). I'm dying.
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Post by jimoh on May 9, 2020 9:32:10 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on May 12, 2020 14:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on May 22, 2020 21:31:51 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 23, 2020 0:27:30 GMT -5
Are fireman jokes too easy ?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 23, 2020 17:48:04 GMT -5
Wow, nice find. Meredith was one of the first players I ever interviewed, and certainly the first legit prospect (I think Lowell Spinner RJ Swindle may have been the first pro player I interviewed). He gave me an hour and a half before a game at McCoy once before I knew enough to realize that was way too long. Glad he's landed at a gig he really seems to enjoy.
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Post by James Dunne on May 23, 2020 18:19:12 GMT -5
RJ Swindle made it to the majors too! Only Sox draftee I know of who got cut in his first spring training and later caught on and made it.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 23, 2020 19:51:09 GMT -5
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