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Post by nomar on May 3, 2017 10:05:36 GMT -5
Devers still has issues though. Hasn't hit for enough power previously and his BB/K isn't good.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 3, 2017 11:34:29 GMT -5
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2) Change to the "preview" tab from the "BBCode" tab. Then change back.
3) In the code for the photo, there should now be a part where there's a percentage. I cut that to as low as 10% sometimes, but just play around with it.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 3, 2017 11:39:34 GMT -5
Devers still has issues though. Hasn't hit for enough power previously and his BB/K isn't good. His 11 home runs last year tied for 12th in the Carolina League after he opened the year as the third-youngest player in the league. His 11 the year before was good for 16th in the South Atlantic League, and he opened the year as the 6th-youngest player. He's never had an IsoP below .150. He's hit for PLENTY of power. |
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Post by nomar on May 3, 2017 12:02:28 GMT -5
Devers still has issues though. Hasn't hit for enough power previously and his BB/K isn't good. His 11 home runs last year tied for 12th in the Carolina League after he opened the year as the third-youngest player in the league. His 11 the year before was good for 16th in the South Atlantic League, and he opened the year as the 6th-youngest player. He's never had an IsoP below .150. He's hit for PLENTY of power. Should have thought about ISO relative to the league, good point. Still would like to see the BB:K increase. Don't think he needs to be fast tracked just because the Red Sox can't find a great solution at third. |
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Post by thursty on May 3, 2017 12:06:19 GMT -5
I can write this with extreme confidence (which hopefully will never be tested): if Dever's max HR in year remains at 11 - he'll never see the majors
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Post by James Dunne on May 3, 2017 12:11:43 GMT -5
When you say K:BB though, you're basically talking about his walk rate. His K rates are good without even considering age advancement. 18.9% this year (entering today), 18.7% with Salem last year. His walk today gives him four on the season, which is obviously fewer than you'd like but also still a small enough sample to not really be meaningful.
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Post by Coreno on May 3, 2017 12:26:43 GMT -5
I can write this with extreme confidence (which hopefully will never be tested): if Dever's max HR in year remains at 11 - he'll never see the majors I mean, I get it, since he's already halfway there and seems to be in a Hanley-esque groove right now. But, double digit HR totals in 500PA MiLB seasons, age advanced, while racking up 30+ 2Bs is nothing to sneeze at. |
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Post by thursty on May 3, 2017 12:33:34 GMT -5
If by "sneezing" you mean calling up to the majors - gesundheit
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Post by jimed14 on May 3, 2017 12:52:11 GMT -5
I can write this with extreme confidence (which hopefully will never be tested): if Dever's max HR in year remains at 11 - he'll never see the majors Why would he max at 11? That's a pretty pointless observation. Benintendi never hit more than 11 HR in a year either. Do you think that's his max? Hanley never hit more than 8 HR in the minors. |
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Post by jimoh on May 3, 2017 13:05:55 GMT -5
I can write this with extreme confidence (which hopefully will never be tested): if Dever's max HR in year remains at 11 - he'll never see the majors Youkilis, Bagwell, Bill Mueller, Wade Boggs? |
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Post by jimoh on May 3, 2017 13:07:37 GMT -5
Announcer on Devers' IF hit for his fifth hit yesterday: "He's got tremendous speed." (Not really true)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 3, 2017 13:25:47 GMT -5
I think the joke was that he's so certain to break 11 that if he doesn't break 11, it means that he suffered a career-ending injury or something. Or at least that's how I took it.
And as for K:BB, that's much more of a pitcher stat than a hitter stat. It's not something that's not useful (and frankly, it's probably overrated for pitchers too), but I find it much more useful to refer to the statistics in isolation rather than comparatively. Consider that a pitcher has much more direct control over balls and strikes - he's the guy throwing the thing - than a hitter does.
Sort of reminds me (I feel like I've done this a lot lately...) of when Bogaerts had his cup of coffee in Portland at the end of 2012 and had 1 walk to 21 strikeouts in 23 games, which was an aberration from his career numbers, but some people still freaked out even though he was 19 and hit .326/.351/.598 with 5 HR.
We're a month in. If a player who has established career norms is putting up markedly different numbers, there's a significant chance it's statistical noise - don't ignore it, but don't worry just yet.
And all that said, I agree with nomar that Devers shouldn't be fast-tracked, so in the end, we're on the same page.
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Post by raftsox on May 3, 2017 14:05:48 GMT -5
I watched Devers go off last night, but when he got his infield hit, he was holding his leg and seemed to feel a pull? Hope he's ok today? I love how he reacts at third and has a strong arm, but he needs to work on soft grounders - bare handed plays - too many are deemed hits and a "more in shape" infielder would have made the play. Not a criticism but something he can work on. I've argued this before and got a lot of flack for it, but here goes again: For a corner infielder, body fat percentage will not affect the critical movements necessary for successful defense (within reason, for example a Sumo wrestler probably wouldn't do well). The critical lower body movements for 3B are: short distance sprinting side to side (typically less than 10 yards) and vertical leap. [Again, please remember that we are talking about athletes here, so "fat" is usually less than 20% whereas "Nomah ripped" is at 7% or so] www.iscsjournal.com/Makaleler/1823622707_4c4s_9.pdf This paper does not find any statistical correlation between body fat percentage and poor athletic markers such as speed and agility. dc.etsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1157&context=honors This paper found that as strength increased the correlation between body fat percentage and markers of athleticism decreased. The conclusion being that an individual that strength trains (such as a pro baseball player) will not see much, if any, degradation in athletic ability due to body fat percentage when compared with leaner individuals. There are many more articles that say the same sort of thing; these are just 2 of the first from a google search. In my opinion, it's not his weight/BF% that's an issue, it's familiarity and training on soft grounders that need to be run in on that he needs help with. Over the last few years we've seen Brian Butterfield work wonders with new infielders, so I'm hopeful that Devers will show that he's at least an average defensive 3B. |
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Post by radiohix on May 3, 2017 14:22:19 GMT -5
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