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5/23-5/25 Red Sox vs. Rangers Series Thread
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 25, 2017 22:05:38 GMT -5
K-K-K-Kimbrel
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Post by danredhawk on May 25, 2017 22:11:19 GMT -5
Red Sox relievers strike out nine of the ten men they faced tonight - if you count Kimbrel's lead off hitter as the K it truly was (it is currently listed as an HBP on gamecast). Pretty, pretty, pretty good...
Call corrected to a K - so nine of ten whiff officially...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 25, 2017 22:12:49 GMT -5
Fantastic overpowering pitching tonight! 20Ks!! I remember seeing both of Clemens' 20K games (actually I missed the first one in 1986 because WTIC AM was broadcasting the Hartford Whalers Game 7 OT loss to the Montreal Canadiens) and Pedro's performance in 1999 against NY.
And this one I enjoyed as it was a team pitching effort, 11 from Pomeranz in 6 IP, Hembree struck out both batters he faced, Scott struck out his only batter, Barnes struck out 2 in his inning, and thanks to umpire/official replay stupidity, Kimbrel had the opportunity to strike out 4 in an inning!
I was nice to see Pomeranz incorporate that cutter. He needs that pitch in his arsenal. He pitched really well tonight. They need a lot more of that from him.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 25, 2017 22:19:27 GMT -5
Major League baseball said that the umpires got a call wrong in the Kimbrel inning. I missed the inning but they gave Kimbrel credit for a 4 strikeout inning.
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Post by thursty on May 25, 2017 22:23:32 GMT -5
If the Rangers are the 2nd best team in the AL West, then the Astros will have wrapped up the division by the AS Break. Brutal
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Post by ericmvan on May 25, 2017 22:45:17 GMT -5
First time in MLB history that a starter and four relievers combined for 20 SO in a 9-inning game.
It's only the second combined 20 K game, the other being the Angels on 9/25/12 against the Mariners, with Zach Greinke getting 13, Garrett Richards 3, and Kevin Jepsen and Ernesto Frieri 2 each.
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Post by grandsalami on May 25, 2017 22:47:05 GMT -5
“@alexspeier: Scoring change! HBP became a K/WP - and Kimbrel’s second 4K inning.”
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Post by James Dunne on May 25, 2017 22:47:41 GMT -5
First time in MLB history that a starter and four relievers combined for 20 SO in a 9-inning game. It's only the second combined 20 K game, the other being the Angels on 9/25/12 against the Mariners, with Zach Greinke getting 13, Garrett Richards 3, and Kevin Jepsen and Ernesto Frieri 2 each. I was wondering about this, sothank you for doing the legwork on this for me. I'm actually a little surprised it hasn't happened more often. My guess is that we'll see it more. With strikeouts up, and a team less likely to leave a pitcher in who has, say, 15 Ks through seven innings, we'll see fresh relievers coming on and getting more strikeouts than the tired starter would have.
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Post by ericmvan on May 26, 2017 0:19:47 GMT -5
First time in MLB history that a starter and four relievers combined for 20 SO in a 9-inning game. It's only the second combined 20 K game, the other being the Angels on 9/25/12 against the Mariners, with Zach Greinke getting 13, Garrett Richards 3, and Kevin Jepsen and Ernesto Frieri 2 each. I was wondering about this, sothank you for doing the legwork on this for me. I'm actually a little surprised it hasn't happened more often. My guess is that we'll see it more. With strikeouts up, and a team less likely to leave a pitcher in who has, say, 15 Ks through seven innings, we'll see fresh relievers coming on and getting more strikeouts than the tired starter would have. I had to renew my subscription to B-Ref's Play Index, which then took 20 seconds to give the answer. But I went six months without wanting to use it, which saved me $18! The 33 BFP tied Max Scherzer's 20K game, but is more than either of Clemens' (30 and 32), or, obviously, Kerry Woods' (29), still the greatest game ever pitched. The Angels had their 20 K against 40 BFP. The game also set a record for highest K% by a staff (excluding CG, and games where the starter went 8 and the closer 1*) in a game of any length, 60.6%. That's the 10th highest rate of all time, period. The previous high K% compiled by four or more pitchers in a game of any length was 57.5% -- set by the Sox last Sept. 25, against TB, when E-Rod (13 of 20), Hembree (all 5), Barnes (1 of 3), Abad (0 of 1), and Kelly (4 of 9) fanned 23 of 40 over 10 innings. There have only been 6 games in MLB history with 20 K and a K% of > 55%, and the Sox now have four of them. *There are two of these, and they rank 3rd and 4th in K% by a team, after Kerry Wood and Clemens #1. On 8/19/07 Johann Santana fanned 17 and Joe Nathan 2 in a 2-hit, 1-0 victory over the Rangers, with 30 BFP. This was topped on 5/13/15 when Corey Kluber fanned 19 and Cody Allen 1 in a 1-hit 2-0 victory over the Cardinals, with just 29 BFP. OK, great trivia question. There have been only 20 MLB games where a team fanned 57.5% or more of opposing hitters. Name the five pitchers who fanned at least one batter in two or more of the games. Answer: Roger Clemens, Max Scherzer, Curt Schilling ... and Heath Hembere and Matt Barnes! Schilling fanned 1 in 2 1P on 7/18/01; the game was suspended and the next night Randy Johnson took over and fanned 16 more. The next year Schill had a 17 K 1-hitter on 4/7 against the Brewers. There were 29 BFP in both games.
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Post by ericmvan on May 26, 2017 1:18:32 GMT -5
Craig Kimbrel is the first pitcher in MLB history to fan all four batters he faced in an inning, twice.
He previously did it on 9/26/12 vs. the Marlins.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 26, 2017 4:52:13 GMT -5
It's pretty evident that the Sox and Pomeranz needs both sides to call for more cutters and Pomeranz needs to throw more cutters. He looked like the guy who came from the Padres yesterday.
Farrell had mentioned in the pregame on WEEI that both Pomeranz and the Sox stayed away from it because of the PRP injection. Thankfully, he and the coaching staff brought up that he needs to throw this pitch more.
If Pomeranz wants to stay in the rotation, he can't fear throwing his third best pitch due to injury. He struggles to get past 5 innings with only two pitches. If the cutter becomes a problem and he's forced not to throw it anymore, then he should go to the bullpen where his curveball/fastball 2 pitch mix would work well.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 26, 2017 7:49:48 GMT -5
It's pretty evident that the Sox and Pomeranz needs both sides to call for more cutters and Pomeranz needs to throw more cutters. He looked like the guy who came from the Padres yesterday. Farrell had mentioned in the pregame on WEEI that both Pomeranz and the Sox stayed away from it because of the PRP injection. Thankfully, he and the coaching staff brought up that he needs to throw this pitch more. If Pomeranz wants to stay in the rotation, he can't fear throwing his third best pitch due to injury. He struggles to get past 5 innings with only two pitches. If the cutter becomes a problem and he's forced not to throw it anymore, then he should go to the bullpen where his curveball/fastball 2 pitch mix would work well. Interesting. I would think that the PRP would have done its thing by now so the injury was either healed and let's go for it, or not and he needs intervention. It was a fun game to watch.
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Post by mandelbro on May 26, 2017 10:52:00 GMT -5
Craig Kimbrel is the first pitcher in MLB history to fan all four batters he faced in an inning, twice. He previously did it on 9/26/12 vs. the Marlins. The talking heads say three others have done it twice - Chuck Finley, Zack Greinke, AJ Burnett. Still absurdly impressive.
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Post by James Dunne on May 26, 2017 11:03:55 GMT -5
Craig Kimbrel is the first pitcher in MLB history to fan all four batters he faced in an inning, twice. He previously did it on 9/26/12 vs. the Marlins. The talking heads say three others have done it twice - Chuck Finley, Zack Greinke, AJ Burnett. Still absurdly impressive. Those players all struck out four batters in an inning twice, but none struck out ALL four batters in an inning - all three gave up at least one other baserunner in one of the four-strikeout innings. Finley, amazingly, did it three times.
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Post by jimed14 on May 26, 2017 11:27:10 GMT -5
I still am having a hard time believing that they allowed the guy who swung at the ball that hit him to go to first. They definitely got that wrong by rule, correct? The ball is dead when it hits a batter.
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