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8/12 Gameday Thread: Groome Day & the Drive play the flute
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 13, 2017 3:50:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty surprised that Tull is so well thought of here considering the usual music mentions.
My first band that I became a fan of was the Yardbirds and Jeff Beck in particular even over Page and Clapton. Maybe the most successful future chained group ever. I still haven't forgiven Rod Stewart for leaving The Jeff Beck Group. He had the perfect Blues voice. The Truth album is a masterpiece. People might not know it but it was Beck on the guitar not Buddy on Buddy Guy's Mustang Sally and Buddy is no slouch on the guitar.
I saw Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac before they became a kiddy poppy rock group. They actually played in a tiny night club called the Ratskeller near Kenwood Square. One of my favorite songs from that set was Black Magic Woman which later became Santana's big break hit. I believe Green wrote it.
I liked Procol Harum but liked Robin Trower on the guitar more than their organ based stuff but that was pretty early on before he left. Whiter Shade of Pale is a brilliant piece of music.
The above discussion left out Emerson, Lake and Palmer. When Hendrix died he was in England discussing a merge and they would have become H.E.L.P.
Loved The Moody Blues, everything after Go Now through 7th Sojourn. After that I thought they went downhill but I did see them at Red Rocks outdoor natural amphitheater in Colorado Springs. I also liked Pink Floyd and to some extent Yes but not so much King Crimson or Merillion. Nothing against them, just never really got into them.
I also saw Bob Dylan at a coffee shop cafe in somewhere in New York City. I really don't remember much about it, I had just turned 16, got my license and a friend who was into Dylan talked me into a road trip. I was probably too stupid to realize what I was listening to. My opinion but, he's the most influential musician of my time because he's pretty much solely responsible for making music socially relevant. I have the complete pirated unreleased Basement Tapes set from his studio in Woodstock, lots of gems there. It was a shame when Orbison died and broke up the greatest all star band ever. If either of my daughters were born a male, we were going to name him Dylan.
LOL, ADD: I also met the Righteous Brothers at a nightclub in the early 90's. They weren't performing, just patrons. How I met them was that their producer saw my 57 Ford and wanted to use it for an album cover. I actually signed a contract but it never happened because shortly after a foul mouthed comedian whose name I forget, did the same thing with another 57 Ford.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 13, 2017 8:00:17 GMT -5
I'm pretty surprised that Tull is so well thought of here considering the usual music mentions. My first band that I became a fan of was the Yardbirds and Jeff Beck in particular even over Page and Clapton. Maybe the most successful future chained group ever. I still haven't forgiven Rod Stewart for leaving The Jeff Beck Group. He had the perfect Blues voice. The Truth album is a masterpiece. People might not know it but it was Beck on the guitar not Buddy on Buddy Guy's Mustang Sally and Buddy is no slouch on the guitar. I saw Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac before they became a kiddy poppy rock group. They actually played in a tiny night club called the Ratskeller near Kenwood Square. One of my favorite songs from that set was Black Magic Woman which later became Santana's big break hit. I believe Green wrote it. I liked Procol Harum but liked Robin Trower on the guitar more than their organ based stuff but that was pretty early on before he left. Whiter Shade of Pale is a brilliant piece of music. The above discussion left out Emerson, Lake and Palmer. When Hendrix died he was in England discussing a merge and they would have become H.E.L.P. Loved The Moody Blues, everything after Go Now through 7th Sojourn. After that I thought they went downhill but I did see them at Red Rocks outdoor natural amphitheater in Colorado Springs. I also liked Pink Floyd and to some extent Yes but not so much King Crimson or Merillion. Nothing against them, just never really got into them. I also saw Bob Dylan at a coffee shop cafe in somewhere in New York City. I really don't remember much about it, I had just turned 16, got my license and a friend who was into Dylan talked me into a road trip. I was probably too stupid to realize what I was listening to. My opinion but, he's the most influential musician of my time because he's pretty much solely responsible for making music socially relevant. I have the complete pirated unreleased Basement Tapes set from his studio in Woodstock, lots of gems there. It was a shame when Orbison died and broke up the greatest all star band ever. If either of my daughters were born a male, we were going to name him Dylan. LOL, ADD: I also met the Righteous Brothers at a nightclub in the early 90's. They weren't performing, just patrons. How I met them was that their producer saw my 57 Ford and wanted to use it for an album cover. I actually signed a contract but it never happened because shortly after a foul mouthed comedian whose name I forget, did the same thing with another 57 Ford. You can see the short-lived Yardbirds lineup with both Page and Beck (with Chris Dreja playing bass instead of rhythm guitar) in the film Blow-Up.
The Rat(heskellar) later became the center of the local punk scene, starting in 1975. Many sweaty nights there seeing the Cars, but nearly all of the other great Boston acts of their day -- The Atlantics, Willy Alexander and the Boom-Boom Band, La Peste, The Maps, Limbo Race -- never made it big nationally. (One of the best, Human Sexual Response, is playing The House of Blues this fall. Their last reunion show, 5 years ago, was incredible.) Lots of major out-of-town acts played there, too. I saw locals Mission of Burma (the second most successful of that first wave of bands) open for Gang of Four three straight nights. There were supposedly just 8 people who came to The Police's show at the Rat on a Thursday. They left behind the "Can't Stand Losing You" 45 for the great Rat jukebox, I heard it that weekend, and was probably one of 200 people saying, "Why wasn't I here Thursday?" People probably aren't aware that "Roxanee" and "CSLY" were American radio hits long after they were hits in the U.K. (Same thing with The Pretenders. I bought "Stop Your Sobbing" b/w "Tattooed Love Boys" as an import 45 after hearing the life-changing B-side on the M.I.T. radio station WTBS (soon to be WMBR as Ted Turner paid them for those call letters) and was shocked when their debut album came out half a year later.) Trower did the first 5 Procol Harum albums, the first 4 of which are far and away their best stuff. His playing on the 4th, Home, is one of the great LP guitar showcases of all time. The album itself is one of my handful of desert-island disks -- anyone who thinks you can't tear it up in a recognizably blues-rock fashion over a set of great weird minor and diminished chords should check out " Piggy Pig Pig," with Trower majestic. The apocalyptic lyrics are part of an overall album theme -- the next track, the epic " Whaling Stories," continues it and is widely regarded as their masterpiece (with more incendiary Trower). As good as he was with them, however, his early solo career has the best guitar playing I've ever heard. I saw him two nights at the Boston Club / Garage (later The Paradise) when he had only a phase shifter as an effects pedal, standing ten feet from the stage, and it was staggeringly good. And then in larger and larger venues as he hit it big with Bridge of Sighs. His producer and soundman was actually Harum's organist, Matthew Fisher. Yeah, I should have mentioned the Moody Blues as another art-rock standard-bearer, even if they were always a little over-earnest for my tastes. ELP I consciously omitted, since I never got into them. Meanwhile, "Dylan" subsequently became a girls' name, too. We have to hope that there are no minor league pitchers named Robbie Robertson or Steve Marriott!
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 13, 2017 8:01:09 GMT -5
Love the discussion, guys.
But hey, did anyone notice another solid Jay Groome start? Gave a up a few more hits and HR, but 5 innings with 7K's no BB's. Just 2 ER with 7H.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 13, 2017 8:32:11 GMT -5
Off topic, but on a baseball note: Conor Gregor with his first RS HR; off to a good start, hitting .414 at Salem.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 13, 2017 15:40:12 GMT -5
When I was in high school, I managed a high school group that was good enough to play in Boston but not nationally good. They'd get booked in a club that was across the street from the Rat, a bigger venue but I don't remember the name. They'd periodically back up a one or two hit wonders like Sam the Sham (Little Red Riding Hood) and Circle (Rubber Ball). Locally we were into The Beacon Street Union and the big local icon was a one armed drummer (and a hook) named Snoopy. I think he was from Newton.
Out of town, there was a huge dance hall in Lowell where Vanilla Fudge played often. I also saw Faces there but no-one else stood out. It was a great place to pick up girls though.
As far as E.L.P. is concerned, I really wasn't into their music except the song Lucky Man but I think Emerson is about as good as you can get on a synthesizer.
I saw Trower several times at a casino in California. By then he was pretty old but a little old man would come onto the stage and rock your socks off. His version of Crossroads is my favorite Crossroads version. I'm guessing you know the significance of that song, I always wished Hendrix did one.
If anyone is into Jazz, which I'm not, check out Django Rhinehart and tell me he wasn't 100 years ahead of everyone else.
I didn't like Dylan as a girls name and ended up with a derivative of the FBI agent's name in Silence of the Lambs who I think was called Charese. We chose Sharese. I don't remember the actresses name, that's not my bag but she was a little hottie.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 14, 2017 23:49:12 GMT -5
When I was in high school, I managed a high school group that was good enough to play in Boston but not nationally good. They'd get booked in a club that was across the street from the Rat, a bigger venue but I don't remember the name. They'd periodically back up a one or two hit wonders like Sam the Sham (Little Red Riding Hood) and Circle (Rubber Ball). Locally we were into The Beacon Street Union and the big local icon was a one armed drummer (and a hook) named Snoopy. I think he was from Newton. Out of town, there was a huge dance hall in Lowell where Vanilla Fudge played often. I also saw Faces there but no-one else stood out. It was a great place to pick up girls though. As far as E.L.P. is concerned, I really wasn't into their music except the song Lucky Man but I think Emerson is about as good as you can get on a synthesizer. I saw Trower several times at a casino in California. By then he was pretty old but a little old man would come onto the stage and rock your socks off. His version of Crossroads is my favorite Crossroads version. I'm guessing you know the significance of that song, I always wished Hendrix did one. If anyone is into Jazz, which I'm not, check out Django Rhinehart and tell me he wasn't 100 years ahead of everyone else. I didn't like Dylan as a girls name and ended up with a derivative of the FBI agent's name in Silence of the Lambs who I think was called Charese. We chose Sharese. I don't remember the actresses name, that's not my bag but she was a little hottie. Hold it -- the Barbarians, from the Cape, were led by a one-handed drummer with a hook, named Moulty, and even had a single about him, a big hit on local radio but nowhere else, and now well known after being included on the Nuggets anthology. Is that who you were thinking of, or were there two of these dudes simultaneously? I'm not a fan at all of the early analog synth sounds. Cheezy. Best synth solo ever, though, is Rick Wakeman's on Yes's "The Revealing Science of God" from Tales From Typographic Errors, oops Topographic Oceans. Never heard Trower do "Crossroads," only cover I can recall him playing was "Rock Me Baby," which was always amazing. I'm more of a Cream fan for Bruce than Clapton, but their "Crossroads" is electrifying. And do you know their demo of "We're Going Wrong"? I think it cuts the album version (which I never really noticed) to shreds. (Meanwhile, I should at some point drag out my Robert Johnson complete box and give it another spin.) You go back further than me, it seems. I always thought the best years to be born if you were a rock fanatic were either 1944 or 1954. In the first case, you were 10 when it all started on the radio, and old enough to go out to the first generation rock clubs (Tea Party, Fillmore, whatever NYC had) to see the British Invasion and SF, etc. bands, and then go to Monterey and Woodstock. But the early 60's were a bit of a wasteland, with only the best of the Brill Building pop worth listening to. If you were born in '54 (as I was), you were 10 when the Beatles hit, and had nothing but great music (provided you chose either prog or metal for your early 70's fix) right up until punk hit, when in the right city you could go out 4 or even 5 nights a week to hear great live music. And to bring this back to baseball -- the reason I know that 4-5 nights a week is not an exaggeration is that in 1978 I kept a notebook containing scorecards of every game I watched on TV, and box scores of every game I missed (along with updated rosters of all 25 clubs and game logs for every Sox player). Almost the only reason I ever missed a night game on TV was if I was out seeing music. So nearly every box score in the notebook corresponds to a gig.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 15, 2017 1:18:14 GMT -5
Could be the same, I never saw him perform, I only saw him hanging around the nightclubs but everybody knew him. He drove a Harley always wore a chain around his boot. Several local bands would wear a braided leather chain in tribute.
I have three MP3 versions of Trower doing Crossroads but the one I like best is off the 1991 2CD set 'Essentials'. If you PM me your email, I can email to to you if you wish. I'm not sure who's doing the vocals but guitar work is fantastic, methinks, better than Cream.
lol, I have Robert Johnson doing it too.
I was born in 1949 but had an older sister that dated Dion when he was just a member of The Belmonts and was an Elvis fan, and an older brother who was totally into Dwayne Eddie and his twanging guitar.
LOL, I was such a baseball fanatic that in the winter of 1961, I blew my arm out throwing curveballs with a winter coat on a field we shoveled. I still can't throw. In 1962, me and by two best friends bought Stratomatic baseball games and played a full season schedule over the winter with each of us holding the 1961 Red Sox.
You can't imagine the baseball card set I had. I traded it and his mother sent it to the dump a few years later. There were 9 erector set boxes years 1951-1959 with multiple copies of all the cards. On the Mickey Mantle rookie cards alone, it was worth it for the two of us to pay to excavate the dump to search. They found them but all the boxes were opened and the cards were rotted to the point of being valueless.
ADD: Just searched my MP3's. I have Crossroads by Trower, Clapton, Blind Faith, Derek & The Dominoes, Cream, Tracy Chapman, Hound Dog Taylor, Elmore James, The Doors, Stevie Winwood, Big Al Carson, Johnny Winter, Van Halen, Rush, Skynard, Mahogany Rush, Alman Brothers, Bone Thugs, Ten Years After, Peter Green and of course, Robert Johnson.
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