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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 12:43:23 GMT -5
I swear the world is trolling me with all these ridiculously soft hits falling in for every team but the Red Sox.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2017 12:44:17 GMT -5
Are you watching the games instead of the stats with respect to Hanley? Looked at his last 10 games or so? at his left on base - his Ks - the fact that with him as clean up, Devers ends up leading off many innings?
He's been awful.
Why not Moreland as clean up? He's been hot lately. Hanley is killing any sort of momentum in this offense, and has much of the season.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 12:45:40 GMT -5
Are you watching the games instead of the stats? Looked at his last 10 games or so? at his left on base - his Ks - the fact that with him as clean up, Devers ends up leading off many innings? He's been awful. Giving up less than 13 runs a game is a bigger problem lately.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2017 12:46:38 GMT -5
SEA with 5 errors in the first inning vs the yankees.... LOLOLOLOLOL
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 12:47:24 GMT -5
SEA with 5 errors in the first inning vs the yankees.... LOLOLOLOLOL Trolling continues.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 27, 2017 12:53:26 GMT -5
Not sure why all the Hanley hate, since the all-star break he has a higher OPS than mookie, xander, JBJ, and Holt. He's also the team leader in HRs. I just don't think this team has a natural clean-up hitter. That's more on Dombrowski than anyone else. He's been pretty bad all year, he is essentially the DH and it really isn't all that relevant what other players are doing relative to him. In addition, I have read a lot of negative posts about the guys you named. I just don't think it can really be said otherwise, and not sure why someone would be surprised, he just hasn't been good. It's either injury, down year, or career regression.
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Post by cutz on Aug 27, 2017 12:53:54 GMT -5
SEA with 5 errors in the first inning vs the yankees.... LOLOLOLOLOL 5 errors? in one inning? What's the MLB record for E's in one inning? Well, Seattle got one win in that Series and didn't get swept. Hanley? What's up??
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2017 12:54:26 GMT -5
You are right - that Hanley - impressive.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 27, 2017 12:54:44 GMT -5
GD, we can't lost this friggin game. I hate the O's. We gotta salvage something out of this 3 game set.
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Post by cutz on Aug 27, 2017 12:55:39 GMT -5
Oh boy!!
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 12:56:27 GMT -5
You are right - that Hanley - impressive. If only he were better, they could have won the last 3 games 14-13, 17-16 and 8-7. He only needed 29 more RBIs.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2017 12:57:36 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Im out
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2017 12:57:38 GMT -5
Or, as this clever tweet just stated - Hanley has 49 RBI...Stanton as 49 HR.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2017 12:58:40 GMT -5
You are right - that Hanley - impressive. If only he were better, they could have won the last 3 games 14-13, 17-16 and 8-7. He only needed 29 more RBIs. Wow - so you can criticize Hanley when you want, but you play obtuse devil's advocate to make some idiotic meaningless point when others do. Wow. Trolling indeed.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 13:00:34 GMT -5
If only he were better, they could have won the last 3 games 14-13, 17-16 and 8-7. He only needed 29 more RBIs. Wow - so you can criticize Hanley when you want, but you play obtuse devil's advocate to make some idiotic meaningless point when others do. Wow. Trolling indeed. Why focus on just one player when pretty much everyone is crap? What is the purpose? You can replace Hanley with Mike Trout and there would be zero difference. They still would have been 15-3 in the 18 games before this last 3 game losing streak.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2017 13:02:30 GMT -5
Wow - so you can criticize Hanley when you want, but you play obtuse devil's advocate to make some idiotic meaningless point when others do. Wow. Trolling indeed. Why focus on just one player when pretty much everyone is crap? What is the purpose? You can replace Hanley with Mike Trout and there would be zero difference. They still would have been 15-3 in the 18 games before this last 3 game losing streak. Disagree. There is no way of knowing the impact of watching a manager stubbornly putting someone where he is ineffective - the impact on the morale of the offense, of the pitching. Too many variables. But even given that, letting him off the hook - and it really isn't on Hanley - it is on Farrell to react to what he is seeing and make some meaningful changes. There are many contributors to this awful little stretch - agreed. But even in many of the wins, Hanley had little part. Devers would have many more RBI if not hitting in back of him.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 27, 2017 13:04:04 GMT -5
Wow - so you can criticize Hanley when you want, but you play obtuse devil's advocate to make some idiotic meaningless point when others do. Wow. Trolling indeed. Why focus on just one player when pretty much everyone is crap? What is the purpose? You can replace Hanley with Mike Trout and there would be zero difference. They still would have been 15-3 in the 18 games before this last 3 game losing streak. But you have been defending him all year. And you agreed with eric about his 2 week hot streak. I agree with Soxfan, your backing him is honorable, but strange, IMO.
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Post by soxfando on Aug 27, 2017 13:05:32 GMT -5
Are you watching the games instead of the stats with respect to Hanley? Looked at his last 10 games or so? at his left on base - his Ks - the fact that with him as clean up, Devers ends up leading off many innings? He's been awful. Why not Moreland as clean up? He's been hot lately. Hanley is killing any sort of momentum in this offense, and has much of the season. Lineup construction is another issue. Farrell is pretty bad at that I agree. Still pissed he took Hanley out of that NYY game when he was crushing it in NY (Aug 11). May have nipped Hanley's hot streak in the bud right there. But harping on Hanley's last ten games is a little unfair. Every player goes through hot and could streaks. Devers is batting .184 his last ten games. Moreland spent a good chunk of time at clean up this year, but was pretty awful for most of it. This team just lacks a true run producer you can slot in at 4 every game.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 13:07:14 GMT -5
Why focus on just one player when pretty much everyone is crap? What is the purpose? You can replace Hanley with Mike Trout and there would be zero difference. They still would have been 15-3 in the 18 games before this last 3 game losing streak. But you have been defending him all year. And you agreed with eric about his 2 week hot streak. I agree with Soxfan, your backing him is honorable, but strange, IMO. There's not sh*t anyone can do about him! Wait til the offseason and hope he hits the way he is capable of. There is no one to replace him.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 13:09:15 GMT -5
Why focus on just one player when pretty much everyone is crap? What is the purpose? You can replace Hanley with Mike Trout and there would be zero difference. They still would have been 15-3 in the 18 games before this last 3 game losing streak. Disagree. There is no way of knowing the impact of watching a manager stubbornly putting someone where he is ineffective - the impact on the morale of the offense, of the pitching. Too many variables. But even given that, letting him off the hook - and it really isn't on Hanley - it is on Farrell to react to what he is seeing and make some meaningful changes. There are many contributors to this awful little stretch - agreed. But even in many of the wins, Hanley had little part. Devers would have many more RBI if not hitting in back of him. Devers is 2 for his last 24, until that double. He probably wound't have that many more RBIs.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 27, 2017 13:12:38 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Aug 27, 2017 13:13:22 GMT -5
Agreed but Raji Davis is a #9 hitter at this point in his career.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2017 13:16:28 GMT -5
Awwww, let's feel sorry for Machado. Awwww.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Aug 27, 2017 13:17:10 GMT -5
I mean, Baltimore is doing their thing, but if they could kindly take their team, and their wins, and get the f*** out of our ballpark, that'd be great.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 27, 2017 13:17:18 GMT -5
I hope today isn't more S.S.D.D.
The Red Sox better cash in their hits against Wade Miley, who has already beaten the Sox once this year even though he's a horrendous pitcher.
I hate losing to the Yankees first and foremost. Period. But a distant second on that list is losing to the team with the 2nd best (behind Gene Mauch) manager never to win a damn thing. I hate seeing Showalter and his team stick it to the Red Sox. It's about time the Red Sox pushed back and treated this team like they were the inferior ones instead of playing like absolute crap against this team with lousy starting pitching and only one way to score - the long ball.
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