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Post by Coreno on Apr 7, 2018 14:25:31 GMT -5
Man its too bad this team has to scratch and claw for runs with such an impotent offense
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 7, 2018 14:25:33 GMT -5
240 homers this year....we can do it.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2018 14:27:52 GMT -5
Man its too bad this team has to scratch and claw for runs with such an impotent offense Just wait til it warms up!
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Post by Coreno on Apr 7, 2018 14:40:22 GMT -5
Porcello just got a standing O for raising the rotation ERA
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 7, 2018 14:41:38 GMT -5
Wow, Cora brought Porcello back out. Well I guess that is where Porcello's value lies.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 7, 2018 14:42:53 GMT -5
Small and insignificant in the long and short term, but still a mistake to bring out Porcello for the 8th in this game. Edit: I'm nitpicking here, and it could be much, much worse. That was a great team win and fun to see the offense get going.
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Post by Coreno on Apr 7, 2018 14:43:24 GMT -5
Let Walden finish this one up before he heads down to RI
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 7, 2018 14:51:27 GMT -5
Man, Porcello was awful. He was crushed for 3 runs - 3 RUNS!! I don't know if he can remain in this rotation when the other guys come back.
In all seriousness I do actually have a couple of small nitpicks with Cora. I think he should have yanked Porcello out after the 7th. He was at 86 pitches and would have left on top, so to speak. Instead he struggled a bit in the 8th. I think he could have simply gone to Walden for both the 8th and 9th.
Also, I'm glad Cora got Betts out of the game and put Holt in, but I think I'd have preferred to see Swihart in the game. Also I'd have like to have seen Holt play at SS to give Bogaerts a little breather.
Part of me wouldn't have minded seeing Swihart behind the plate for the last couple of innings either. It wouldn't hurt to get some reps there.
Other than that I was actually listening to Cora on the pre-game show in the car and he was pretty impressive to listen to. He knows his stuff.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 7, 2018 14:59:42 GMT -5
Now that was a complete game. The best all around game they've played all year. Bogaerts was fantastic. Porcello was solid. And Martinez and Devers both went deep.
If the Sox bullpen bridge can be decent enough this team has it in them to be the most talented team I've seen them have in the 40 years I've been watching.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 7, 2018 14:59:52 GMT -5
Don't mind Porcello coming back out for the eighth. Cora's probably building pitch counts here. Porcello was only in the mid 80s in pitches after 7. He was probably trying to get him between 90-95 pitches today.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 7, 2018 15:14:01 GMT -5
Yankees 27% SO rate as a team Sox 18%
Yankees 8 errors Sox 0
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Post by wildsox on Apr 7, 2018 16:11:23 GMT -5
Man, Porcello was awful. He was crushed for 3 runs - 3 RUNS!! I don't know if he can remain in this rotation when the other guys come back. In all seriousness I do actually have a couple of small nitpicks with Cora. I think he should have yanked Porcello out after the 7th. He was at 86 pitches and would have left on top, so to speak. Instead he struggled a bit in the 8th. I think he could have simply gone to Walden for both the 8th and 9th. Also, I'm glad Cora got Betts out of the game and put Holt in, but I think I'd have preferred to see Swihart in the game. Also I'd have like to have seen Holt play at SS to give Bogaerts a little breather. Part of me wouldn't have minded seeing Swihart behind the plate for the last couple of innings either. It wouldn't hurt to get some reps there. Other than that I was actually listening to Cora on the pre-game show in the car and he was pretty impressive to listen to. He knows his stuff. We just had a day off and another one Monday... I wouldn’t be too concerned about Bogaerts resting a few innings. I do think Porcello should have came out after 7 though. I’m confident Cora will learn as we go on.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 7, 2018 16:24:52 GMT -5
And it's worth noting with Poyner that the homer he allowed was to a right-handed hitter (Gomez). 9 of the 17 batters Poyner has faced have been left-handed, so credit to him for getting his job done and to Cora for putting him in a position to succeed. Lefties are 1 for 8 with four strikeouts (a sacrifice bunt is the additional BF), righties are 2 for 8 with the homer and two strikeouts. Somewhere, Fernandeo Abad sobs wistfully. Poyner and Johnson. Both from U of Florida Both have below average velocity Both have high floors and low ceilings ... maybe Both succeed by pounding the zone on the corners with some deception Both are going to contribute to the Sox this year, hopefully a lot. In theory, could add Maddox to that list at some point soon, once he gets healthy. It could also just be that the Florida pitching staff has been bonkers for a while now.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 7, 2018 16:25:17 GMT -5
According to Statcast, Xander barreled 6 balls the entire of 2017. That grand slam was his mlb-leading 6th barreled ball of 2018. He's historically had slow Aprils, too. This is a guy who, unlike JDM, Murphy et al, was already getting good results despite badly needing a launch-angle adjustment. I'm amazed that he wasn't everyone's #1 choice for a fantasy draft breakout bargain (or maybe he was and I missed it ...).A big thing here is that he's made a quick adjustment to the way he's being pitched. vs Tampa, 60.9% Zone% (insanely high), 304 wRC+ vs Miami, 46.3%, -10, 0 BB Tampa has stopped pounding the zone (33.3% yesterday) and he's walked twice in 8 PA (oh, and is 3/6, 2 2B, HR otherwise). Hey man, I tried trading for him. No lie.
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Post by nomar on Apr 7, 2018 18:40:13 GMT -5
My biggest issue with this team is that we have lost a game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 19:31:59 GMT -5
Now that was a complete game. The best all around game they've played all year. Bogaerts was fantastic. Porcello was solid. And Martinez and Devers both went deep. If the Sox bullpen bridge can be decent enough this team has it in them to be the most talented team I've seen them have in the 40 years I've been watching. The good news is that bullpen depth tends to be the easiest (and cheapest) thing to acquire at the deadline. I’d much rather see Dombrowski on the hunt for a 7th/8th inning reliever than a starter, slugger, or closer.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 7, 2018 19:58:05 GMT -5
My biggest issue with this team is that we have lost a game. That's funny. There probably are a few out there still mad about the opener and give them zero credit for only playing the Rays and Marlins. They should be 9 and -1!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 7, 2018 20:41:48 GMT -5
Wait....They're allowed to hit a homer when the bases are loaded? 560 days since their last one, apparently.
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Post by 07redsox on Apr 7, 2018 21:47:32 GMT -5
Was at the game today and am so happy my 5 hour drive this morning was not wasted! Porcello looked great after that first inning and pretty much cruised right through. Going to tomorrow's game as well so hopefully it will be a good one as well!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 7, 2018 21:53:53 GMT -5
What a delight to be able to listen to the entire game (on my phone using mlb.com) during a soggy drive home up 95 from Lake City South Carolina back to Raleigh. When Xander hit the slam I nearly drove off the road!
Just loving this team....of course winning is fun, but how they are winning - and how they are managed - increases the fun exponentially! Just got to get two of our Killer Bs hitting - the other two are doing just fine, thank you!
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Post by patford on Apr 7, 2018 22:51:10 GMT -5
On terms of strategy I don't know if there is a difference between Cora and Farrell. A lot of what were seen as Farrell's boneheaded mistakes were Farrell trying to build trust and reward service. I think there is some good in that. My issue with Farrell is he always struck me as a Joe Btfsplk . For those who don't get the antiquated pop-culture reference, Farrell always seemed to project failure and doom. He may have made moves to show confidence in a guy but his physical demeanor was that of an over-wound music box. So tight the mechanism was frozen and would never play again. His whole presence screamed, "We are going to loose." A team can get over that if they have a larger than life (David Ortiz) positive personality. Waiting for all hell to break loose when JBJ goes on a hot-streak.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Apr 7, 2018 22:57:11 GMT -5
We really haven't seen much yet as the Rays and Marlins look a lot like AAA teams at this point. But getting some confidence going into the tougher games is good and a 2.5 game lead doesn't hurt either. In regard to next year, I'm not convinced that they let anyone go as they can afford to go over the luxury tax guidelines for a while. This is exactly the time to do that if they are winning this year. I think they largely stand pat and if anything add to the team.
It wouldn't hurt though to have some of the cheaper players step up and contribute though. That enables maybe letting Kimbrel go for a QO. The guy maybe throws 60-70 innings this year. I'd rather have Pomeranz if both are healthy. Kimbrel probably nets us a pick and we might get lucky and see someone else step up and close at a lower cost. Keeping good starting pitching is so important.
Just loving how this offiense looks to be developing. I think the numbers are going to be fine and that defense is a differense maker compared to the Yanks. I think we are right there with the Yanks overall. The healthier team probably wins.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2018 7:25:07 GMT -5
We really haven't seen much yet as the Rays and Marlins look a lot like AAA teams at this point. But getting some confidence going into the tougher games is good and a 2.5 game lead doesn't hurt either. In regard to next year, I'm not convinced that they let anyone go as they can afford to go over the luxury tax guidelines for a while. This is exactly the time to do that if they are winning this year. I think they largely stand pat and if anything add to the team. It wouldn't hurt though to have some of the cheaper players step up and contribute though. That enables maybe letting Kimbrel go for a QO. The guy maybe throws 60-70 innings this year. I'd rather have Pomeranz if both are healthy. Kimbrel probably nets us a pick and we might get lucky and see someone else step up and close at a lower cost. Keeping good starting pitching is so important. Just loving how this offiense looks to be developing. I think the numbers are going to be fine and that defense is a differense maker compared to the Yanks. I think we are right there with the Yanks overall. The healthier team probably wins. Kimbrel is a must keep. He’s on of the few elite reliable bullpen arms year after year. Yes there are different guys who put up similar numbers to him every year but only a handful of guys do what he does year after year. They’d be crazy not to keep that. I’d rather him than Pomeranz any day.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 8, 2018 7:29:24 GMT -5
My biggest issue with this team is that we have lost a game. That's funny. There probably are a few out there still mad about the opener and give them zero credit for only playing the Rays and Marlins. They should be 9 and -1! I’m not going to be a wet blanket because I’m thrilled about the start. Even if it ends up 7-2 vs the lowly Rays and Marlins that’s great. Nothing to complain about, however, it’s completely valid to take a step back and acknowledge these teams are terrible and the Red Sox need to be beating up on them. The fact they are is good, but it doesn’t mean a whole lot either. On the flip side l, if they turn around and drop 2 of 3 from the Yankees at home that’s nothing to read much into either.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 8, 2018 8:01:37 GMT -5
ERod starts today....thoughts on who goes down? Walden or Velazquez?
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