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Post by bosox on Jul 30, 2018 22:59:10 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like the Sox are going to bring in another reliever. DD said unless there's something out of the blue before the deadline. LinkI call a bluff unless he is betting on Thornburg DD also said they would go down to 12 pitchers when Devers returns.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 30, 2018 22:59:11 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like the Sox are going to bring in another reliever. DD said unless there's something out of the blue before the deadline. LinkI call a bluff unless he is betting on Thornburg Yup, I think he's telling other clubs here if you don't lower the asking price (stop asking for Mata and Houck because you're not getting them) you're not going to be able to unload your expensive reliever as you go nowhere in the standings. And if they don't he'll probably stand pat. I know that looks like the wise move tonight, but I still have my reservations about that.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 30, 2018 23:03:36 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like the Sox are going to bring in another reliever. DD said unless there's something out of the blue before the deadline. LinkI call a bluff unless he is betting on Thornburg I’d probably bet on him right now
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2018 23:41:40 GMT -5
Are we under or over the highest tax line? Given they got money in the Kinsler deal, I have to think they are under. By how much? You still need money to call up guys in September when rosters expand.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 30, 2018 23:46:42 GMT -5
Are we under or over the highest tax line? Given they got money in the Kinsler deal, I have to think they are under. By how much? You still need money to call up guys in September when rosters expand. NBC said yesterday we were already over
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 31, 2018 0:05:48 GMT -5
Are we under or over the highest tax line? Given they got money in the Kinsler deal, I have to think they are under. By how much? You still need money to call up guys in September when rosters expand. NBC said yesterday we were already over That makes zero sense given the Kinsler trade. We likely had to include a better second prospect to get them to eat 1.8 million. You only do that if you want to stay under. Also people have been saying COT has us at 235 before the Kinsler trade and that would make sense. Kinsler will cost 1.8 million, putting you at 236.8 million, leaving you like $900,000 short of the 237.7 million line. Giving you the money needed to call up all the guys you want in September.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 31, 2018 0:23:33 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 31, 2018 0:24:47 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 31, 2018 2:13:09 GMT -5
NBC said yesterday we were already over That makes zero sense given the Kinsler trade. We likely had to include a better second prospect to get them to eat 1.8 million. You only do that if you want to stay under. Also people have been saying COT has us at 235 before the Kinsler trade and that would make sense. Kinsler will cost 1.8 million, putting you at 236.8 million, leaving you like $900,000 short of the 237.7 million line. Giving you the money needed to call up all the guys you want in September. Cot's (or Yahoo I think) included the full year's minimum salary for several players like Poyner, Walden and Travis which isn't how it works. We not only should still be under but should have room for September call ups. My guess is that Evan Drellich's source wasn't very good at the numbers game.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 31, 2018 2:57:13 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 31, 2018 2:58:37 GMT -5
Shi Davidi Verified account @shidavidi 2h2 hours ago
#BlueJays clubhouse remains closed nearly 40 minutes after final out. Asked if players needed to talk some things out, manager John Gibbons says: “Maybe there are some things you’re not supposed to know about yet.”
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jul 31, 2018 5:19:33 GMT -5
Cubs close to acquiring Ziegler. Nationals still talking with Indians and Yankees about a possible trade for Harper.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 31, 2018 6:41:14 GMT -5
Cubs close to acquiring Ziegler. Nationals still talking with Indians and Yankees about a possible trade for Harper. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees get Harper at this point with Clint Frazier being the primary bait and it wouldn't surprise me to see the Yankees use Sonny Gray as a part of the package to get Chris Archer. I think the Yankees might be doing something big today.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 31, 2018 6:45:22 GMT -5
Cubs close to acquiring Ziegler. Nationals still talking with Indians and Yankees about a possible trade for Harper. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees get Harper at this point with Clint Frazier being the primary bait and it wouldn't surprise me to see the Yankees use Sonny Gray as a part of the package to get Chris Archer. I think the Yankees might be doing something big today. Fraziers still not recovered from concussion symptoms.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 31, 2018 6:57:12 GMT -5
I wonder if the Nationals making Harper available was a message to MFY , to bring us your prospects that we want and you can have him. Judge might be done for year. The rumor is there going after him in off season. Bring it Cashman. These Sox are the mentally strongest in years. I worry about Kelly. I see a lot of confidence in a Thornburg now. That game last night was eye opening.
It’s amazing to me just a change in management makes such a difference . Cora was the biggest offseason move for this club and JD Martinez helped a lot also.
So glad they stuck with Swihart. He has to stay here next year.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2018 7:03:53 GMT -5
Cubs close to acquiring Ziegler. Nationals still talking with Indians and Yankees about a possible trade for Harper. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees get Harper at this point with Clint Frazier being the primary bait and it wouldn't surprise me to see the Yankees use Sonny Gray as a part of the package to get Chris Archer. I think the Yankees might be doing something big today. Let them. Harper wouldn't even be a big upgrade over Judge/Stanton/Gardner/Hicks. I can't even understand why they'd waste their time trying to trade for him unless Judge is out for the season, and that would be even better news for us.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 31, 2018 7:17:06 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 31, 2018 7:31:49 GMT -5
This has to be said. I'm really glad that the Red Sox aren't in the position where Lance Lynn could improve the team. I think they have about 15 starters better than him. Just a little sarcasm there.
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Post by mannofsteele on Jul 31, 2018 8:21:27 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like the Sox are going to bring in another reliever. DD said unless there's something out of the blue before the deadline. LinkI call a bluff unless he is betting on Thornburg I pray to god he isn't, Thornburg has done nothing to make me personally believe he'll look like he did during his last healthy stretch with Milwaukee.
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Post by mannofsteele on Jul 31, 2018 8:23:19 GMT -5
Greene and Norris from that group. At least guys you can take an interesting flyer on. Rodney, Yates and Stammen are about as drull as you can get. I don't care what Yates numbers are, they will not translate back to the AL.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Jul 31, 2018 8:25:37 GMT -5
So much for the Brandon Phillips experiment.
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 31, 2018 8:34:47 GMT -5
I call a bluff unless he is betting on Thornburg I pray to god he isn't, Thornburg has done nothing to make me personally believe he'll look like he did during his last healthy stretch with Milwaukee. Over his last 5 appearances, over 4.1 innings, Thornburg has let up one hit with 5 Ks and 0 walks and hasn’t allowed a run. Has faced the minimum every time he’s pitched. His previous five appearances were his first time pitching in two years or so. To me, he’s looked very good lately. His velocity on his fastball is a tick down from his previous high in Milwaukee, but still in line with his career average. I’m sure it’ll continue to trend upward as he gets further into game shape. And he’s throwing the ball for strikes, 69% so far.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 31, 2018 8:38:36 GMT -5
I pray to god he isn't, Thornburg has done nothing to make me personally believe he'll look like he did during his last healthy stretch with Milwaukee. Over his last 5 appearances, over 4.1 innings, Thornburg has let up one hit with 5 Ks and 0 walks and hasn’t allowed a run. Has faced the minimum every time he’s pitched. His previous five appearances were his first time pitching in two years or so. To me, he’s looked very good lately. Couldn’t agree more, he’s looked excellent and in his position recent samples are more indicative than a larger sample.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 31, 2018 9:01:18 GMT -5
Keone Kela went for the Pirates #7 Prospect per MLB.com and a PTBN. Given he has 3 1/3 years of team control left that seems rather cheap. MLB.com list our #7 prospect as Hernandez and he would seem to be rather close in value to Taylor Hearns, both power lefties. Given that the cost of a rental should be almost nothing.
Edit: Reports now say the second prospect is a low tier guy and not close to Hearns in value.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jul 31, 2018 9:26:36 GMT -5
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