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Post by soxfanatic on Oct 27, 2018 16:15:20 GMT -5
I like our line up so much more with Pearce in there.
Why does Cora feel the need to hit Moreland and his 59 wRC+ since the all star break 3rd?
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Post by Guidas on Oct 27, 2018 16:25:18 GMT -5
Nails! Everyone of them tough as a bag of sharp, jagged tungsten nails!
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Post by Guidas on Oct 27, 2018 16:25:58 GMT -5
I like our line up so much more with Pearce in there. Why does Cora feel the need to hit Moreland and his 59 wRC+ since the all star break 3rd? No idea. And versus a lefty, no less.. My bad. I thought you were saying he got subbed in instead of Pearce. Lost my breath for a sec there.
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Post by wildcardwillie on Oct 27, 2018 16:27:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing Devers move to first, and us going after a 3rd baseman in the offseason
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Post by Guidas on Oct 27, 2018 16:39:04 GMT -5
Absolute Savage!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 27, 2018 16:46:10 GMT -5
Get over yourself Jimed. You act like I'm the only person that thought they were screwed when Kinsler threw the game away. I'm not. I'll pretend that Eovaldi pitching 6 plus innings for nothing doesn't affect them going forward, just so you can feel better. Unless E-Rod has the game of his life tomorrow, piecing together their pitching staff is going to be difficult tomorrow, and E-Rod hasn't exactly inspired confidence. The I told you so nonsense is how you are, not my style. I'm allowed to have my opinion, even if it isn't popular. Last I checked it is a free country. I don't always pick the Sox to lose. I picked NY, Houston, and LA. Had Oakland beaten NY, I'd have picked the Sox -without Manaea they wouldn't have had a chance. If Milwaukee had beaten LA, I would have picked the Sox because of how bad their starters were and how torn up their pen was. I was pretty clear about that before Game 7 even happened. I do think this is a terrible defeat. I think if Kinsler did what he was supposed to do the Dodgers would have been deflated and probably swept. Instead they have a new lease on life. They're back in the Series thanks to Kinsler. Like I said this is a test. If they win a game in LA they passed the test. If they win two, they ace it. Otherwise it's a problem, and they're dealing with two tough young pitchers who are properly rested for Game 6 and 7. You are definitely entitled to your (pessimistic) opinion, but so are we. And this is a terrible defeat? It took 18 innings for as road team to finally beat us. And I did not think we were screwed when Ian made that error, I believe (like most here!) that we find a way to win. And sure you don't always pick against the Sox to lose, just in the playoffs... So thanks for picking the Sox and Sale versus Baltimore in July. Erod will have to pitch the game of his life, well I guess that Hill will just cruise along. We are so Doomed. Thank God for the Celtics and Pats. You remind me of my Dad's best friend when the Red Sox won in 2004, everyone was celebrating while he was already saying "We got lucky and we are going to suck from now on." Dude enjoy the moment, live in the now. These Sox's do. They are not worried about game 5 or 6 or 7 just game 4. One last thing, believe it or not, we are the more rested team tonight. Go Sox!! Go stretch, why don't you? I was pretty clear that I thought the Sox would rip through Milwaukee before Game 7 was ever played, so does that make them Baltimore in July? Last I checked, nope it doesn't. Then next thing I know JimEd is doing his condescending insulting post about how I'm going to tell everybody I told ya so. Surprised I wasn't blamed for sending negative energy to Ian Kinsler. My track record in making predictions flat out suck, so why the hell would I brag about ever being right (if I wind up being right) when I'm wrong way more often than I'm right? How does that make sense? It doesn't. I don't gamble. There's a reason for that. All I know is if Kinsler makes that play our Sox are up 3-0 and the Dodgers are deflated as deflated can be. They'd have virtually no chance to win the Series. Instead, Kinsler opened the door for them giving them a decent chance. If the momentum shifts it won't be hard to pinpoint when it happened. Maybe the Sox buck the trend somehow. The Jays were 1 strike away winning the 1992 World Series and blew it but recovered enough 2 innings later to hang on and win their first World Series. The 1975 Reds recovered from blowing Game 6 to the Red Sox to win the Series the next night. The 2001 Diamondbacks recovered from crushing defeats to pin one on the Yankees. The 2008 Rays almost blew the ALCS to the Sox but recovered in Game 7. On the flipside sometimes teams just don't recover. The 2004 Yankees never recovered from blowing 2 late inning leads. The 2011 Rangers were toast when they blew two leads, one strike away from ultimate victory in Game 6. There was no way they were going to win Game 7, and of course they didn't. Likewise with the 1986 Red Sox. When they blew Game 6, just about everybody knew they weren't winning Game 7. Didn't matter that Hurst was God at that point or even that they took a 3-0 lead into the 6th inning. Last night's loss brought back memories of Game 6 1986 for me. I hadn't felt a loss that deeply since that game, when it was snatched. Game 3 of the 2013 World Series stunk, but that was more that the Sox were robbed than the Sox choked. It was kind of like the Armbrister game in 75. I hope that the Sox do recover, Kinsler hits a grand slam to redeem himself, and they beat the Dodgers. I'll withstand two more bone crushing defeats if the Sox find a way to win two more games. Thinking the Yankees power would overwhelm the Sox at Yankee Stadium was hardly an opinion I shared alone among other baseball fans. Nor was thinking that the Astros had the best team in the league an opinion that I was alone in among other baseball fans. Most are picking the Sox against LA, but focusing strictly on records and ignoring the matchups. I didn't like the matchups for the Sox, particularly lack of LH relief pitching to get their lefties out and some other things. And the Dodgers starting pitching is so superior to Milwaukee's I don't know how the Brewers stretched that series to 7 games. The Sox would have crushed that Brewers pitching. I was glad as hell to be wrong about NY and Houston. Had no idea Eovaldi would develop into such a stud. Did anybody here really think that was going to happen? I don't give a crap about being right or wrong. I'd rather everybody tells me I was wrong yet again and the Sox win than finally being correct and wish that I wasn't. At the end of the day all I want is for the Sox to win, sneak my 6 year old to the TV set with his dad to witness it together, and then redecorate the hell out of my Red Sox shrine room. But I don't have to say "The Red Sox are going to win just because I'm a Red Sox fan" if I honestly don't think they will. Saying they will or they won't doesn't make the Red Sox win or lose, if we're being honest here. They do it on their own.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 27, 2018 17:45:11 GMT -5
Cora on Betts confirming what some of us have seen - he’s anxious and being a bit over-selective (or under selective, depending on your perspective):
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Post by larrycook on Oct 27, 2018 18:18:44 GMT -5
Slip sliding away!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 27, 2018 18:20:45 GMT -5
I gotta admit boys, I am still a bit shocked here. I got old ghosts trying to rent space in my head, and I can't, no won't, give them any accommodation. Our guys have been resilient all year and I expect the same tonight.
Go Sox !!!!!!
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Post by Guidas on Oct 27, 2018 18:49:58 GMT -5
Dodgers starting their lefties vs. Eduardo:
Freese 1B Muncy 2B Turner 3B Machado SS Bellinger CF Puig RF Taylor LF Barnes C Hill P
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Post by soxfansince67 on Oct 27, 2018 18:59:21 GMT -5
Buckle up, friends...likely to be another epic battle. So many subplots...ERod's effectiveness and length, next arms up, JD Xander and Nunez health, will our bats...esp Mookie...show up.
Soon...soon!
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Post by nomar on Oct 27, 2018 18:59:22 GMT -5
Dodgers starting their lefties vs. Eduardo: Freese 1B Muncy 2B Turner 3B Machado SS Bellinger CF Puig RF Taylor LF Barnes C Hill P Eduardo has 13.6 K/9 vs LHB so I say go for it. But in their defense Mucy was better than Dozier this year regardless of who is throwing.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Oct 27, 2018 19:03:56 GMT -5
By my count: 6 Sox relievers threw about 105 pitches over about 5 innings. And the 5 starters have been worked, but not overworked
6 Dodger relievers threw 105 pitches over about 7 innings. And the 7th, threw 29. Floro And the 5 starters have been worked ... (Includes Maeda)
No disadvantage there for the Sox.
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Post by manfred on Oct 27, 2018 19:08:18 GMT -5
I don’t feel terrible about facing Hill. One good thing is he rarely goes deep.... Dodgers bullpen gunna be taxed again.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 27, 2018 19:08:33 GMT -5
Everyone take a deep breath and relax our boys got this!
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 27, 2018 19:09:35 GMT -5
ideal start for me is a double by mookie followed by a bentendi hr
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Post by Canseco on Oct 27, 2018 19:09:40 GMT -5
Goddamn softball jerseys again tonight. This isn’t Port Saint Lucy, and we aren’t a new wave 90s expansion team! Enough!
Ugh. Shake it off, Jose.
Let’s jump on these pretty boys.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 27, 2018 19:13:21 GMT -5
Goddamn softball jerseys again tonight. This isn’t Port Saint Lucy, and we aren’t a new wave 90s expansion team! Enough! Ugh. Shake it off, Jose. Let’s jump on these pretty boys. the road greys are the only road uni for me.
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Post by manfred on Oct 27, 2018 19:13:38 GMT -5
Mookie is making me sad.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Oct 27, 2018 19:16:09 GMT -5
Lots of back and forth in this thread between those who are optimistic about this series and those who aren’t. I’m firm.in my belief that the Red Sox will win this series. I think they’ll win tonight too, but if they don’t, it wouldn’t change my opinion about the series.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 27, 2018 19:16:51 GMT -5
Big night from JD will solve all our problems...yes all of them.
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Post by awall on Oct 27, 2018 19:17:38 GMT -5
Cmon, hang one.
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Post by ianrs on Oct 27, 2018 19:18:55 GMT -5
Middle middle 90 MPH fastball from a LHP and JD whiffs. Its going to be another long night.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Oct 27, 2018 19:19:06 GMT -5
Rich Hill looks pretty good.
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Post by manfred on Oct 27, 2018 19:20:56 GMT -5
19 pitches, at least. Sox stars are picking the wrong time to look terrible together. Like some kind of swing flu or approach fever or something.
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