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Red Sox vs. Dodgers 2018 World Series Gameday Thread
ericmvan
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 29, 2018 1:04:18 GMT -5
And for what it's worth, Sale striking out a flailing, falling over Machado to end it is, like, Wrestlamania-type stuff. It was like Red Sox fanfic that actually happened. I'm half-expecting David Ortiz to Rock Bottom Alex Rodriguez and Joe Torre through the Announcer Table. Lol, I totally CALLED IT!!! My ex / best friend / housemate has acquired a hatred of Machado that perhaps equals the combination of everyone here. When the bottom of the 8th finished, I told her that Machado could end the game by striking out. I think anyone with a scorecard saw it coming!
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Post by cheers on Oct 29, 2018 1:06:14 GMT -5
Weird isnt it. People who lived between 1919 and 2003 never saw one. My 16 year old kid has seen four. My Dad was born on March 23, 1919, and passed on October 4, 2004. Yes, the day before the playoffs began. The last conversation I can remember us having was my telling him that the Sox were the best team in baseball and had a great chance of winning the championship. He missed that, and my getting hired by the Sox in the offseason. Ugh. That is heart-wrenching. I'm SO lucky. My Mom and I get to burst into tears this time of year every time we mention 2004. My Mom does not get to have the pride of having her kid get hired by the Sox. If your Dad is watching, I'm sure he feels like he totally won, on all fronts.
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Post by trajanacc on Oct 29, 2018 1:14:39 GMT -5
I was thinking about the Buckner historic gaffe and the Kinsler gaffe that became not historic.
Like many, I grew up thinking that the Buckner play was do-or-die, but many things still had to happen after it for the Sox to lose the series, and we wouldn’t have necessarily won if he had made the play.
Question for someone good at math: can you compare the effect of each play on Boston’s series win probability that year? I bet it’s closer than people think. But Ian is off the hook and Bill will live on in ignominy because of the different outcomes.
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Post by cheers on Oct 29, 2018 1:20:22 GMT -5
I was thinking about the Buckner historic gaffe and the Kinsler gaffe that became not historic. Like many, I grew up thinking that the Buckner play was do-or-die, but many things still had to happen after it for the Sox to lose the series, and we wouldn’t have necessarily won if he had made the play. Question for someone good at math: can you compare the effect of each play on Boston’s series win probability that year? I bet it’s closer than people think. But Ian is off the hook and Bill will live on in ignominy because of the different outcomes. Funny story: In 1993 I was at an A's game on a date with a California girl that was shrewd enough to tell me she was Bill Buckner's niece. She wasn't, but strung me along for quite a while (until it was obvious that she was gonna meet my southern NH family). Now, young folks don't have to suffer the curse of the Buckner. Thanks, Papi!
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 29, 2018 1:24:22 GMT -5
Listening to david price post game is really interesting. He's so honest and forthcoming. I am so happy he did what he did. Proved all his doubters(including me) wrong and for that the man deserves a ton of credit. He has done it with class. Great for him. Really wish he won the world series MVP.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 29, 2018 1:30:05 GMT -5
What the world said, at the beginning of the season: "Yankees Yankees Astros Yankees" Red Sox: Win 108 games. "We are good." World, at the beginning of the playoffs: "Who will win, the Yankees or the Astros?" Red Sox: Beat the Yankees in 4. "This was easy." World, at the beginning of ALCS: "Does Boston have a chance???" Red Sox: Beat the Astros in 5 "listen we are really freaking good." World, at beginning of World Series: "50/50, maybe?" Red Sox, with Betts and Bogaerts tied behind their back: Win in 5.
Red Sox: World Series Champions.
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Post by SALNotes on Oct 29, 2018 1:33:14 GMT -5
World Champion Red Sox. Hell of a season and a hell of a run through October.
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Post by imnothipp on Oct 29, 2018 1:41:11 GMT -5
So many great stories this season. Small footnote to the year. I believe the Sox are the first team to be no hit and win the World Series in same season. In retrospect, not surprising.
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Post by imnothipp on Oct 29, 2018 1:50:12 GMT -5
Weird isnt it. People who lived between 1919 and 2003 never saw one. My 16 year old kid has seen four. My Dad was born on March 23, 1919, and passed on October 4, 2004. Yes, the day before the playoffs began. The last conversation I can remember us having was my telling him that the Sox were the best team in baseball and had a great chance of winning the championship. He missed that, and my getting hired by the Sox in the offseason. Damn, that story about your dad, hits home. Last thing my dad was go to Boston to watch Sox clinch against the Angels. Ended up in hopsital on 10/13. He passed the morning of 10/17. From the point he passed, Sox went 8-0. World Series time every year will always be the most special time of the year for me,
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ericmvan
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 29, 2018 2:23:35 GMT -5
My Dad was born on March 23, 1919, and passed on October 4, 2004. Yes, the day before the playoffs began. The last conversation I can remember us having was my telling him that the Sox were the best team in baseball and had a great chance of winning the championship. He missed that, and my getting hired by the Sox in the offseason. Ugh. That is heart-wrenching. I'm SO lucky. My Mom and I get to burst into tears this time of year every time we mention 2004. My Mom does not get to have the pride of having her kid get hired by the Sox. If your Dad is watching, I'm sure he feels like he totally won, on all fronts. My Dad was born on March 23, 1919, and passed on October 4, 2004. Yes, the day before the playoffs began. The last conversation I can remember us having was my telling him that the Sox were the best team in baseball and had a great chance of winning the championship. He missed that, and my getting hired by the Sox in the offseason. Damn, that story about your dad, hits home. Last thing my dad was go to Boston to watch Sox clinch against the Angels. Ended up in hopsital on 10/13. He passed the morning of 10/17. From the point he passed, Sox went 8-0. World Series time every year will always be the most special time of the year for me, Given how many Sox fans there are, this sort of bad timing is inevitable.
My consolation was that my Dad was an even bigger Pats fan and, of course, the Pats were pathetic for years while the Sox were perennial contenders. He lived to see some Super Bowls that he never dreamed of. He also loved hockey and got to see Bobby Orr (along with all of Ted Williams, and of course Pedro and Brady in their primes).
And I have to mention (maybe not for the first time here) that he was within 9" of the world high jump record when he was 15 (setting the state high school record as a sophomore), was the star of a dominant YMHA football team (unbeknownst to his HS track coach, who wouldn't let him play football for the school) and could absolutely have punted in the NFL of the 40's. And (this one I think is new) that Red Auerbach had worked with his uncle, and the day before game 6 of the '69 finals he called Red and got us 4 tickets on the floor right behind the basket. That proved to be not just Sam Jones' last game in Boston, but Bill Russel's too. The one Pats game he took us to in Fenway Park was won 25-24 by Gino Cappelletti on a 41 yard FG with one second left on the clock.
He had such a great life as an athlete and a fan that the sting of losing him at the worst possible time became more bittersweet and ironic than purely tragic. His life in and with sports was like having a great meal but missing an incredible dessert you'd been hearing about for years.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 29, 2018 3:03:49 GMT -5
I've got lots to say but I'm going to try to go to bed (before my average bedtime of late, which is just before 5 AM). I also have the last 50 minutes of Fox's final post-game show to watch on the DVR.
If I end up editing this, you'll know I failed!
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 29, 2018 3:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by wildsox on Oct 29, 2018 3:24:18 GMT -5
I love David Price!
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Post by wildsox on Oct 29, 2018 3:25:33 GMT -5
amd I love everyone here we did it!
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Post by Smittyw on Oct 29, 2018 3:51:05 GMT -5
I like how each series provided just the right amount of drama without ever putting them in serious danger...easier on the heart.
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Post by marrcus on Oct 29, 2018 4:36:48 GMT -5
The route to the title has to be evaluated as the most difficult of the playoff era. Given two 100 win teams -one being 2017 champions- were vanquished only adds to the luster of the WSC/18.
I thought they would beat the nyy but it could go either way against Hou with a slight advantage to Bo. Some years you absolutely have to win -- because you are the best and to lose would be a tremendous waste. I'm glad bb is over and everything while not going perfectly still went according to plan. They were the best, they had to prove it after winning the most games and it was done.
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Oct 29, 2018 5:14:59 GMT -5
What a way to cap off an historic season! Everyone stepped up at varying times. On to next year!
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Oct 29, 2018 5:53:24 GMT -5
Congratulations 2018 World Champion Boston Red Sox.
Many of us endured the 1918 chants for so long until the 2004 Red Sox shocked the world and won the World Series. Winning never gets old.
Looking forward to catching up on some much needed sleep the next few nights.
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Post by awall on Oct 29, 2018 6:19:37 GMT -5
Gawd, now my sons are going to expect expensive new WS champion gear.
What a run, what a season. What a special group of men this year, such an easy team to root for.
6Ks in a row to finish a WS, has that happened before? What a great way to finish off a team from a franchise I have loathed since childhood (I grew up in a Phillies household, with the Sox being my #2 team due to my mom having a crush on Yaz and Dewey).
Thanks to all of you guys for making following the Sox even more fun and to the crew that runs this ship!
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Post by chrisfromnc on Oct 29, 2018 6:33:14 GMT -5
This JUST MADE chris from nc night If anyone on this board doesn’t consider the last out one of the all time best cherry-on-top moments of their sports fan lives, then I don’t even want to know you! The whole season was magnificent. Like everyone I have a dozen different thoughts in my head. I can’t even process all of it now but I’m thinking a lot about the 2011 draft class and their huge impact on this team. I’m thinking about how John Henry opened up the checkbook for Yoan Moncada and the impact that had. I’m thinking I want Alex Cora to be the longest tenured manager in Red Sox history. There’s so much more to just ponder on and I’ll spend this off season reveling in the joy of this championship. I’m thinking it was a blast sharing this season with a bunch of complete strangers on a message board who are as passionate as I am about this team.
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Post by patford on Oct 29, 2018 7:09:38 GMT -5
Dan Shaughnessy on Twitter :
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Oct 29, 2018 7:31:35 GMT -5
Can't remember which site analyzed the series position by position and gave the Dodgers the edge in 7 of 11 (all infield plus starting and relief pitching) and the Sox in 4 (all outfield, begrudgingly in center, plus DH) and therefore predicted an LA victory. Amazing how arguably one of the best 3 teams of the modern era was so disrespected by so many "experts". Analytics have rightly become the lynchpin of building a franchise and have proven so with their success. But they can only explain so much and that missing 5-10% is what we can call "clutch" or "chemistry" or "heart" (old school) and that whatever-it-is is something this team had in great measure. In retrospect it all seemed so easy and so inevitable though you would know that by reading some of the game threads Thanks to everyone here for adding immeasurably to a great and historic run and next year, when the MFY come to town (hopefully with Machado in tow as their latest anchor) let's greet them with a new chant: TWENTY-EIGHTEEN, TWENTY-EIGHTEEN!
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 29, 2018 8:06:17 GMT -5
Sweet dreams last night. And now, it's time to sew everyone's arms back on.
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Post by bucksmatthew on Oct 29, 2018 8:27:55 GMT -5
My grandfather was born in 1902, and so saw 5 champions, though he of course would not remember 03 - but he did see Ruth pitch for the Sox, and got to a series game in 16 - he lived to be 94, never seeing them get another - my mother was born in 1932, and my earliest baseball memory is her fiddling w a radio to hear the 67 series - she never got to see them win, passing unexpectedly in 71, but she instilled, with her father, a love of all things Sox in me, thanks in part to annual trips to Fenway (which I've not quite kept up on w my own kids, but I try) (fwiw, they both followed the Philadelphia Eagles too, as they relocated from Swampscott to the Philadelphia suburbs just before the second world war). I've been lucky enough to see them win 4, and I'd have never expected it - 67 I was only tangentially aware of (being 8), but 76 (my physics teacher used the homer by Tony Perez to explain measuring an arc), and then 86 (I was at Shea for two losses) really lowered my expectations. Safe to say, those demons have been put to bed forever. Eagles win their first super bowl, Sox win another series, besting 3 really good teams in the post season....What a thrill of a year it was!
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Post by garygeigercounter on Oct 29, 2018 8:28:57 GMT -5
A guy who played for 7 different teams, was DFA'ed 4 times,released twice, had THREE different stints with the Orioles and is the very definition of a journeyman ends up MVP of the World Series.
Only in America,kids.
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