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Post by 07redsox on May 7, 2019 14:07:55 GMT -5
Do you watch the episode live on HBO or live through the HBO Go app? I watched on HBO live and the quality was horrible! It looked very grainy and sort of like there was holes in the picture (I assume that was mostly from bad quality of the snow, sort of like what umass said). Re-watched it the next day on HBO Go and it was a completely different episode. Yes, it will still dark, but I was able to see everything that was happening easily. Unfortunately didn't learn this until last week, but HBO releases the new episode on HBO Go at the same exact time as it airs on the channel. However, because television releases like that do not support the greatest quality, it's best to view it on on HBO Go. The quality is SO much better overall. I watched this past episode like this and found myself switching back and forth to see the difference. It's very noticeable. I use HBO Now. But I've still seen about 10 different sources and none of them were anywhere near good enough. I even watched a brightened up version and that was awful as well. They need to completely remaster that episode for the blu-rays because it really was awful quality for the actual source that was released to every platform.
It's unfathomable that the people in charge of producing this show didn't take the episode and watch it on an average viewer's tv set in a typical environment to see how it would look. They have had 2 years to do this and it still looks rushed as hell. Don't know what you are using to view it, but I don't have anything too special and it looked great watching it again. Again, this was on HBO Go (which you automatically receive with an HBO subscription) and it was beautiful on there. Those that viewed it live though HBO Go that I have talked to said it was beautiful then as well. Agreed though that they should have looked into that a bit more. It shouldn't look horrible like it did while airing live. Honestly looked like I was watching it on a tube televisions. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 7, 2019 15:06:35 GMT -5
I use HBO Now. But I've still seen about 10 different sources and none of them were anywhere near good enough. I even watched a brightened up version and that was awful as well. They need to completely remaster that episode for the blu-rays because it really was awful quality for the actual source that was released to every platform.
It's unfathomable that the people in charge of producing this show didn't take the episode and watch it on an average viewer's tv set in a typical environment to see how it would look. They have had 2 years to do this and it still looks rushed as hell. Don't know what you are using to view it, but I don't have anything too special and it looked great watching it again. Again, this was on HBO Go (which you automatically receive with an HBO subscription) and it was beautiful on there. Those that viewed it live though HBO Go that I have talked to said it was beautiful then as well. Agreed though that they should have looked into that a bit more. It shouldn't look horrible like it did while airing live. Honestly looked like I was watching it on a tube televisions. Ironically, it might have been better on a CRT, since they are inherently better at displaying blacks than LCDs are. But that may be exaggerating. |
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Post by voiceofreason on May 9, 2019 7:07:39 GMT -5
Has Cersei surpassed Ramsey as the best villain yet?
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Post by jimed14 on May 12, 2019 10:04:21 GMT -5
I'm already getting bummed there are only 2 episodes left. I bet 90% of HBO subscribers cancel their subscription in 8 days.
I wonder who will win the fight between Hound and the Mountain.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 12, 2019 10:56:38 GMT -5
I used to love HBO, one show would end and we'd watch another. Like 75% of the year had a good show on Sunday night. Not anymore and you don't get HBO to watch the same movies for two months straight. HBO is going to take a hit for a year plus till those new GOT spin-offs come out. Even then it's not worth it, just get HBO go for a few months at a time during the summer when nothing is on.
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Post by jimed14 on May 12, 2019 11:00:00 GMT -5
That Chernobyl miniseries has a 9.5 on IMDB with 5200 ratings for the first episode. I may check it out.
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Post by jimed14 on May 12, 2019 17:06:27 GMT -5
In the game of thrones, you win or you die. Sorry, I'm so freaking psyched.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 13, 2019 0:36:53 GMT -5
Just finished watching it and there's only thing I can say: HOLY F*CKING SH*T BALLS.
The music on this episode oh my God, everything was so tense and scary. Aside from a very poorly shot fight scene between Jaime and Euron, perfect 10/10 carnage going on. Dany is absolutely getting SHRECKED in the finale.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 13, 2019 0:47:00 GMT -5
That was stupid.
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 5:55:17 GMT -5
So now Jon has to know that not being king because he doesn't want to be isn't an option. He's either going to die or he'll be king. But everything that has happened is partially on him for being so stupid to side with Daenerys. Hopefully he finally saw it, but he's kind of acting dumb and dumber this season. One last episode to deal with her.
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 5:55:57 GMT -5
Has Cersei surpassed Ramsey as the best villain yet? I think Daenerys has passed both. |
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Post by voiceofreason on May 13, 2019 10:06:46 GMT -5
Has Cersei surpassed Ramsey as the best villain yet? I think Daenerys has passed both. I think Arya takes her out in the final episode and Jon is the King. Then again that is probably too obvious so it won't happen. Probably Dany and Jon both go down and Sansa is left standing, sad to see it end. Can't say I loved Dany killing everyone but that is GOT. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 13, 2019 10:23:36 GMT -5
So now Jon has to know that not being king because he doesn't want to be isn't an option. He's either going to die or he'll be king. But everything that has happened is partially on him for being so stupid to side with Daenerys. Hopefully he finally saw it, but he's kind of acting dumb and dumber this season. One last episode to deal with her. I get the not trusting her fully, but this quick turn by her is kinda crazy. She just put everything on hold, risked everything to save the people from the walking dead. Then in 1.5 episodes she goes full on crazy and kills like a million people. I wasn't surprised she attacked the Red Keep, yet she then just killed everyone. Heck she was killing her own soldiers. It's kinda crazy to think anyone could see that coming. They really should have spent more time showing her going mad. So I don't blame Jon for acting dumb. He doesn't want to rule and is sick of fighting, but yeah he now has one last fight. Still think Ayra kills her. |
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Post by swingingbunt on May 13, 2019 10:45:19 GMT -5
So now Jon has to know that not being king because he doesn't want to be isn't an option. He's either going to die or he'll be king. But everything that has happened is partially on him for being so stupid to side with Daenerys. Hopefully he finally saw it, but he's kind of acting dumb and dumber this season. One last episode to deal with her. I get the not trusting her fully, but this quick turn by her is kinda crazy. She just put everything on hold, risked everything to save the people from the walking dead. Then in 1.5 episodes she goes full on crazy and kills like a million people. I wasn't surprised she attacked the Red Keep, yet she then just killed everyone. Heck she was killing her own soldiers. It's kinda crazy to think anyone could see that coming. They really should have spent more time showing her going mad. So I don't blame Jon for acting dumb. He doesn't want to rule and is sick of fighting, but yeah he now has one last fight. Still think Ayra kills her. This was my problem with the episode too. If they had spent the proper time setting up the heel turn, I would have been good with it. Hell, even having her let loose on Varys in a way that made me question her sanity would have been good. But no, she goes from "Breaker of Chains" to "Melter of Innocent Civilians" without any step in between. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 10:45:25 GMT -5
So now Jon has to know that not being king because he doesn't want to be isn't an option. He's either going to die or he'll be king. But everything that has happened is partially on him for being so stupid to side with Daenerys. Hopefully he finally saw it, but he's kind of acting dumb and dumber this season. One last episode to deal with her. I get the not trusting her fully, but this quick turn by her is kinda crazy. She just put everything on hold, risked everything to save the people from the walking dead. Then in 1.5 episodes she goes full on crazy and kills like a million people. I wasn't surprised she attacked the Red Keep, yet she then just killed everyone. Heck she was killing her own soldiers. It's kinda crazy to think anyone could see that coming. They really should have spent more time showing her going mad. So I don't blame Jon for acting dumb. He doesn't want to rule and is sick of fighting, but yeah he now has one last fight. Still think Ayra kills her. When she started showing how power hungry she was, I totally called this (but not to the extent that it happened). I've been so anti-Daenerys ever since I saw her reaction to the 'Jon is the king' news and knew that she had to die or it would be a horrible ending. My girlfriend was getting annoyed with me about it but now she's totally on my side. It did happen too quickly but they basically are going to fight 3 separate wars in 3 different episodes. I tend to think Jon is going to kill Daenerys. But the sneak peek of the final episode makes it look pretty daunting that anyone is going to get near her, so maybe it will be Arya. Where the hell did that giant army come from? |
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 10:51:53 GMT -5
I get the not trusting her fully, but this quick turn by her is kinda crazy. She just put everything on hold, risked everything to save the people from the walking dead. Then in 1.5 episodes she goes full on crazy and kills like a million people. I wasn't surprised she attacked the Red Keep, yet she then just killed everyone. Heck she was killing her own soldiers. It's kinda crazy to think anyone could see that coming. They really should have spent more time showing her going mad. So I don't blame Jon for acting dumb. He doesn't want to rule and is sick of fighting, but yeah he now has one last fight. Still think Ayra kills her. This was my problem with the episode too. If they had spent the proper time setting up the heel turn, I would have been good with it. Hell, even having her let loose on Varys in a way that made me question her sanity would have been good. But no, she goes from "Breaker of Chains" to "Melter of Innocent Civilians" without any step in between. See, I saw the steps every time she got jealous of Jon and started ordering him around despite pretending to love him when she only loves herself. She showed exactly how power hungry she was and that's the trait that turns every leader into a treacherous person. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 13, 2019 12:00:53 GMT -5
This was my problem with the episode too. If they had spent the proper time setting up the heel turn, I would have been good with it. Hell, even having her let loose on Varys in a way that made me question her sanity would have been good. But no, she goes from "Breaker of Chains" to "Melter of Innocent Civilians" without any step in between. See, I saw the steps every time she got jealous of Jon and started ordering him around despite pretending to love him when she only loves herself. She showed exactly how power hungry she was and that's the trait that turns every leader into a treacherous person. Umm yeah we all saw that, but it didn't forecast her killing a million innocent people. More like she would do whatever it took to get her birth right or what she thinks is her birth right. Yet at the same time they showed she cared about the people time and time again. She now is a ruler of nothing and she just killed those people for no reason. Up to that point had she killed anyone for sport? Anyone who was innocent? Her whole mission was to break the wheel and she instead just set a new low bar of what the wheel is. We all read the Yahoo article for weeks forecasting this could be coming so it wasn't the massive shock it would have been without those articles. Yet the show just did a horrible job showing her change. It was so bad they needed to explain it for five minutes after the episode. Like if someone watches the series without those articles, they are going to be like WTF just happened. Just my two cents but the GOT creators really messed this all up doing the last two seasons in 7 and 6 episodes. Those seven extra episodes could have been used to provide more detail like the first six seasons had. Everything has been so rushed the last two seasons, that even good episodes kinda seem crazy because we didn't get those extra details to explain them like we did in the past. Like how about a flashback to what really made the mad King go crazy. By all accounts it didn't just happen one day, it was a big string of events that his son started by running away with Elana Stark. The resulted in Ned Starks father and brother being burned, which started the rebellion by Robert and Ned. I'm not sure about all the details, but it does seem that by the time he went crazy his son was dead and he was about to lose the war. On the flip side his daughter goes mad after she gets everything she has ever wanted? |
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 12:17:29 GMT -5
Look at her face here. This is the scene that gave everything away for me.
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 13:27:38 GMT -5
Ha, Aaron Rogers was an extra in that episode.
Make sure you watch the making of episode 5 special, pretty amazing. Didn't know The Mountain is a world's strongest man competitor. That fight with The Hound was epic.
edit - The "Brown eyes, blue eyes, green eyes" prophecy has not yet been fulfilled since Arya did not kill Cersei, so that leaves Daenerys since they both had/have green eyes.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 14, 2019 9:55:56 GMT -5
Look at her face here. This is the scene that gave everything away for me. That's good acting and by all accounts Emilia Clarke has done a terrific job, but the writing has felt very rushed and it has given the series a weirdly episodic vibe. I'm with umass and swingingbunt here, the series needed more room to breathe. It's reasonably defensible what happened to Dany, she was loved by the sand people which made her do good things to appease them, but she was despised by everyone in Westeros which made her crack under pressure. I can see it. It's not bad. It was just rushed to oblivion. Still, Cleganebowl was perfect and the visual and sound design of the last episode were absolutely unreal and it set a new high standard for any future large scale battle (Jamie and Euron fight aside, that was very poorly shot and choreographed). |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 14, 2019 11:15:29 GMT -5
The last two seasons they just have a ton of Characters do 180s out of no where. Like I'm glad Ayra survived, yet her whole mission for years was her kill list. Last name left and a few words get her to give it up? What because she could die? The girl who just went flying past a dozen white walkers and took on the Night King?
They spent so much time on CGI and trying to write the last two seasons, they forgot the details and flow of the show. You could even forgive them if they just messed it up. Yet they cut down on episodes and details by choice. They just wanted to end the show and move on. The fact we had to wait two years just makes it worse. Maybe HBO should have brought in new guys. I hate when epic series end like crap and for it to be rushed for no reason is even worse. I will be so pissed if we get a Lost or Dexter type ending.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 14, 2019 11:50:57 GMT -5
I will be so pissed if we get a Lost or Dexter type ending. The Iron Throne is getting destroyed and we're getting a round table, book it. I'm totally expecting the finale to go full stupid. |
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 14, 2019 13:10:45 GMT -5
The very standard and worn out fantasy theme of humble-boy-becomes-a-powerful-force-for-good would indicate that Jon Snow is gonna take the throne. The wildcard is whether or not the show runners want to stick with that theme or buck it, knowing that we all know what the theme would dictate them to do.
Its a nice little piece of game theory. Will they do what you expect, or will they do something different, simply because you expect it?
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Post by jimed14 on May 14, 2019 13:25:19 GMT -5
Is there any ending that most people would be satisfied with? I don't think there is.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 14, 2019 13:43:38 GMT -5
Given the current path Jon Snow taking the Iron throne is something most people wouldn't have an issue with. So that won't happen. It doesn't even need to be an ending we see coming, yet just no this was a vision crap or you don't answer the questions remaining and make us try and guess what happens.
Lost ruined everything. I said two seasons in I can take anything but some religious crap and bam they went there. Dexter just never finished the story. Compared to Breaking Bad which had one of the best endings ever.
I really don't care what the ending is, as long as it's a good one and they wrap up the story lines.
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