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Post by jimed14 on May 14, 2019 13:49:29 GMT -5
The biggest question I want answered is what the the hell is Bran and why do they keep bombarding us with mysterious crap about him without ever revealing anything. Him being on the throne doesn't make sense to me, but that's what Vegas has picked.
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 14, 2019 17:48:22 GMT -5
I’d not like Bran on the throne. He is too enigmatic and the character is underdeveloped compared to others. Things I’d like to see...
Arya kills Danaerys. Sansa could take the throne and I’d be OK with that. Something very good for Tyrion. A nest of Dragon eggs gets found.
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Post by jimed14 on May 14, 2019 18:46:29 GMT -5
I’d not like Bran on the throne. He is too enigmatic and the character is underdeveloped compared to others. Things I’d like to see... Arya kills Danaerys. Sansa could take the throne and I’d be OK with that. Something very good for Tyrion. A nest of Dragon eggs gets found. I believe Tyrion and Sansa are still legally married and were kind of being friendly with each other a few episodes ago. So if Sansa is on the throne, Tyrion would be her king.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 14, 2019 20:16:14 GMT -5
The biggest question I want answered is what the the hell is Bran and why do they keep bombarding us with mysterious crap about him without ever revealing anything. Him being on the throne doesn't make sense to me, but that's what Vegas has picked. Yeah, the amount of time they spent on the 3 eyed Raven, just to have it not be explained at all, would be pretty crappy.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 15, 2019 11:33:58 GMT -5
Given what we've seen, can't Bran just take over the Dragon? Like he has to do something, all this getting ready for the big battle and he did nothing but be bait. Given his powers he should be a huge part in mid-evil warfare. He's like having a ton of scouts, drones and spies all in one, yet nothing. Not even hey watch out they built a hundred huge ballista to kill your dragons. Something has to happen with him and it has to be major or they waisted his character. Unless they wanted him to be the creepiest useless character on the show. So far mission accomplished.
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Post by jimed14 on May 19, 2019 21:23:46 GMT -5
You've got to be kidding me.
Yep, just because Jon Snow is a prisoner means that they just have to decide on a new king and never address that he was the rightful heir to the throne of the 7 kingdoms again. Just pretend that didn't happen.
Jon Snow, your hero that has saved your life many times and is the rightful heir to the throne of the 7 kingdoms just has to now be forgotten and sent to Siberia.
Everyone: ok................................ let's pick a new king before we ever talk to him again.
That's the worst ending of the best show ever.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 19, 2019 23:33:02 GMT -5
All I can say to that is LMAO. Are you telling me that the unsullied and the dothraki, both of whom followed Dany like she was Jesus Christ, were willing to just let it go and not do anything about it? She didn't have a SINGLE GUARD within a mile radius from her? She's this incredibly powerful figure the entire series and she didn't see it coming that Jon might attack her?
This ending sucked ASS.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 19, 2019 23:47:26 GMT -5
Jimed, was it you that wanted to check Chernobyl? Did you do it? I watched the first episode before GOT and WOW it was absolutely spectacular. It gave me an asthma attack and everything, it's beautifully done and very tense. The best TV thing I've seen in 2019 easily.
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Post by swingingbunt on May 19, 2019 23:48:04 GMT -5
Whatever. My expectations were already so low that it didn't even matter.
So many storylines were just completely forgotten about, and the show completely turned away from what made it great. Just hope GRRM lives long enough for us to see the real ending to the story.
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Post by jimed14 on May 20, 2019 7:34:54 GMT -5
Jimed, was it you that wanted to check Chernobyl? Did you do it? I watched the first episode before GOT and WOW it was absolutely spectacular. It gave me an asthma attack and everything, it's beautifully done and very tense. The best TV thing I've seen in 2019 easily. Yeah, I watched the first two episodes. It seems so freaking realistic that you cannot help having the feeling of absolute dread.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 20, 2019 9:56:05 GMT -5
Expectations were crazy low and still it sucked. They gave us an ending,so there is that. Yet even if that was the crazy ending that makes no sense, because it doesn't. It was a horrible done episode that was boring. Even if that's Martin's ending, no way that's how he gets there.
The whole three eye Raven thing means nothing? Bran could have just been a crippled guy who can't have children and it works. A Stark was always the easy choice and he breaks the wheel by not being able to have children and having Kings be elected.
Jon could have just been a true bastard and it works. Like two of the biggest story lines in the whole show litterally seem to have no meaning on the outcome at the end.
I will say Jon going North kinda saved me from being really pissed. Everything he did, if he was forced to live out his life at Castle Black it would have been horrible.
How do they even know the mother of Dragons is dead? Like no one was there but Jon and then she's gone.
One thing that has always bugged me, why didn't three full sized Dragons lay eggs and reproduce?
While not as bad as Lost, the ending of GOT was right up there with Dexter as one of the worst ever! Without the books it just sucked. Instead of years of CGI work, they should have taken an extra year to work on the script.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 20, 2019 12:35:53 GMT -5
I agree. I think the best ending would've been if Jon stuck with Danerys while she went Mad Queen because he was sticking by his promise and couldn't bring himself to kill her, which wouldn't have been out of character for him. I thought for a brief moment this is where they were going when he kissed her.
Then Sansa and the North as well as the Tullys and the Knights of the Vale rebel and are joined by whats left of the Lannisters and their vassal states, and the whole cycle starts all over again. The Martells, Gendry and the Baratheons stick with the Targaryans, and the Iron-Born stay neutral (as well as whats left of the Tyrell vassal states). Jon is made Dany's hand, Grey-Worm the Master of War. Gendry and someone from the Dothraki and Martells are given spots on the council as well. That would've been my preferred ending.
The Kingsmoot thing and picking Bran was horrible, as was the dragon burning the throne and just leaving. Jon getting let go and the Unsullied and Dothraki doing nothing also made no sense.
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Post by jimed14 on May 20, 2019 13:14:49 GMT -5
What was actually the point of Jon Snow being a Targaryen? In the end, it had absolutely nothing to do with the story despite it being the biggest reveal in the entire show.
Why did Arya train to become an assassin for almost two seasons? So she can become Dora the Explorer?
The more I think about it, the more crappy the ending gets.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 20, 2019 13:24:15 GMT -5
What was actually the point of Jon Snow being a Targaryen? In the end, it had absolutely nothing to do with the story despite it being the biggest reveal in the entire show. Why did Arya train to become an assassin for almost two seasons? So she can become Dora the Explorer? The more I think about it, the more crappy the ending gets. It made him not want to sleep with Danerys anymore which may have driven her more crazy? I also think he went from "I can't do this," to killing her way too fast without an explanation as to what changed his mind.
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Post by voiceofreason on May 21, 2019 5:19:55 GMT -5
Is there any ending that most people would be satisfied with? I don't think there is. So true. Became so convoluted in the end to the point that it almost didn't matter. I thought they did a great job for the most part right up to when Arya killed the Night King, then the show fell on its sword sadly.
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Post by voiceofreason on May 21, 2019 5:34:49 GMT -5
Given what we've seen, can't Bran just take over the Dragon? Like he has to do something, all this getting ready for the big battle and he did nothing but be bait. Given his powers he should be a huge part in mid-evil warfare. He's like having a ton of scouts, drones and spies all in one, yet nothing. Not even hey watch out they built a hundred huge ballista to kill your dragons. Something has to happen with him and it has to be major or they waisted his character. Unless they wanted him to be the creepiest useless character on the show. So far mission accomplished. This would have been a better ending IMO. Just as Dany starts to go full on batshit crazy destroying Kings Landing and killing everyone, Bran takes over the dragon and stops the mad queen. Would have been great to see her lose her shizzle over the dragon not obeying her and making her even crazier, maybe she even falls to her death in a crazy tantrum. Then it might have made more sense making him King as his powers peak. Oh well just another alternative ending that would have been better than what they chose. Bran having the ability to be the dragon would give him the ultimate power.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 21, 2019 14:00:07 GMT -5
You just needed more details and context to make it work and make sense.
Like Bran goes from not being Brandon Stark, I can't rule Winterfell to yeah I'll rule the seven Kingdoms that's why I made the trip. Which makes zero sense, you needed something to explain that sudden change.
Dany goes full on crazy burning most of the people of Kings Landing who they said was over a million people. Then instead of acting full on mad queen, thinks she liberated them. Still thinks she's good, which is nothing like her father who litterally just went mad and wanted to kill everyone.
Then Jon fully supports her, even after talking with the Imp. Yet a minute later, even as Dany doesn't sound like a mad queen he kills her. It's so confusing and makes zero sense. Like he doesn't even try to talk with her or reason. He's so quick to throw away his honor, which is his number one thing he lives by.
I'm sure Martin adds the extra information, more context, more details and his story will make a lot more sense. It's a shame they felt the need to rush the ending of an epic series, when one of it's greatest strengths was it was slow moving with tons of details. Everything that happened, used to be the result of many episodes building up to those big events, not just crap happens without context.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 21, 2019 21:59:45 GMT -5
Why didn't the unsullied or the dothraki kill Jon Snow on the spot? JFC it's been 2 full days and I'm still mad.
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Post by jimed14 on May 21, 2019 22:12:49 GMT -5
Why didn't the unsullied or the dothraki kill Jon Snow on the spot? JFC it's been 2 full days and I'm still mad. The more I think about it, the more mad I get and the more questions I have. I actually am inspired to rewrite the last two seasons as fan fiction. LMAO
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Post by voiceofreason on May 22, 2019 6:49:05 GMT -5
Not to mention they took 2 years to create the last season.
Everyone agrees with you umass on developing everything better with an extra episode or 2 but it was still a bit stupid even if you did develop it more. Just disappointing after so many great seasons and episodes.
How much money would they make if they created a new ending and put it out 3 years down the road? If you can have Rocky 7, Taken 3 and all these other terrible sequels you can do a GOT do over starting after the Battle of Winterfell. Put it in the movie theaters and you would have billion dollar+ receipts, just a thought but GOT would be great in a theater.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 23, 2019 9:52:08 GMT -5
Why didn't the unsullied or the dothraki kill Jon Snow on the spot? JFC it's been 2 full days and I'm still mad. How do they even find out? The Dothraki were going to kill her before she burnt all the leaders. They follow the strong and move on when they die to the next strong leader just like when Karl Drogo died. The unsullied are like a bunch of robots that just do whatever there leader says. Only Grey Worm was shown to actually be a free thinker. With that said Jon was the leader of the Northern armies, who were there. Two foreign armies, now without a leader, stuck in a land where everyone hates them and they have no Dragons anymore. No leaders, no one to tell them what to do or how to do it. Kill Jon and the seven Kingdoms rise up and they fight to there likely deaths, no? So they called a council of the seven Kingdoms to make terms. They wanted him dead, but wanted to live more, which isn't crazy in my book.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 23, 2019 9:57:10 GMT -5
Not to mention they took 2 years to create the last season. Everyone agrees with you umass on developing everything better with an extra episode or 2 but it was still a bit stupid even if you did develop it more. Just disappointing after so many great seasons and episodes. How much money would they make if they created a new ending and put it out 3 years down the road? If you can have Rocky 7, Taken 3 and all these other terrible sequels you can do a GOT do over starting after the Battle of Winterfell. Put it in the movie theaters and you would have billion dollar+ receipts, just a thought but GOT would be great in a theater. The Rocky movies and Taken 3 never changed the endings of the first movies though. They just continued the story lines. I think they set this up for a sequel down the road or at minimum set it up so you have that option.
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Post by voiceofreason on May 23, 2019 11:01:35 GMT -5
Not to mention they took 2 years to create the last season. Everyone agrees with you umass on developing everything better with an extra episode or 2 but it was still a bit stupid even if you did develop it more. Just disappointing after so many great seasons and episodes. How much money would they make if they created a new ending and put it out 3 years down the road? If you can have Rocky 7, Taken 3 and all these other terrible sequels you can do a GOT do over starting after the Battle of Winterfell. Put it in the movie theaters and you would have billion dollar+ receipts, just a thought but GOT would be great in a theater. The Rocky movies and Taken 3 never changed the endings of the first movies though. They just continued the story lines. I think they set this up for a sequel down the road or at minimum set it up so you have that option. Their are movies out there with alternative endings. They could do something unprecedented though and do the end over. People would flock to the theaters to see it, money to be made. The money is just sitting there ready to be collected. If they did a redo and had some episodes in a theater would you go? I know I would and I think millions more would also. What did Avengers just do 2.6 billion world wide. Just saying..
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 3, 2019 8:59:39 GMT -5
3 down 3 to go.
I didn't have any issues with darkness on the 3rd one. I used 1080 with my monitor set to 1600x1200. I thought the director got the desired effect and you could pretty much see everything that they wanted to show. I did off the lights though.
They seemed to go out of the way in #2 to make the Dragon queen and queen Lanister less likable and several characters more likable.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 3, 2019 11:14:21 GMT -5
Is there any ending that most people would be satisfied with? I don't think there is. So true. Became so convoluted in the end to the point that it almost didn't matter. I thought they did a great job for the most part right up to when Arya killed the Night King, then the show fell on its sword sadly. It was all downhill from Littlefinger's execution. I wanted to see him on the Iron Throne.
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