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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 14, 2019 6:35:35 GMT -5
Two thoughts.
1. This is another nail in the economic coffin that is California.
2. Long Beach is basically at the heart of traffic congestion. This is a nightmare waiting to happen. The Riverside area would make so much more sense.
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Post by incandenza on May 14, 2019 9:47:45 GMT -5
Two thoughts. 1. This is another nail in the economic coffin that is California. 2. Long Beach is basically at the heart of traffic congestion. This is a nightmare waiting to happen. The Riverside area would make so much more sense. 1. The fifth largest economy in the world, home of some of the most dynamic modern industries, with the sixth highest per capita income in the nation, is an economic coffin? 2. The Riverside/San Bernardino metro area has about 4 million people. LA County alone has 10 million. One reason there's worse traffic in Long Beach is that that's where the people are. In general you want to put professional sports stadiums in places where the people are. Plus Long Beach has a Metro Rail connection at least. Having said that, cities are dumb for funding private stadiums, and it wouldn't surprise me if the Angels are just leveraging Long Beach to get a better deal out of Anaheim. |
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Post by James Dunne on May 14, 2019 9:55:31 GMT -5
Two thoughts. 1. This is another nail in the economic coffin that is California. 2. Long Beach is basically at the heart of traffic congestion. This is a nightmare waiting to happen. The Riverside area would make so much more sense. 1. The fifth largest economy in the world, home of some of the most dynamic modern industries, with the sixth highest per capita income in the nation, is an economic coffin? 2. The Riverside/San Bernardino metro area has about 4 million people. LA County alone has 10 million. One reason there's worse traffic in Long Beach is that that's where the people are. In general you want to put professional sports stadiums in places where the people are. Plus Long Beach has a Metro Rail connection at least. Having said that, cities are dumb for funding private stadiums, and it wouldn't surprise me if the Angels are just leveraging Long Beach to get a better deal out of Anaheim. Agree about the California stuff.... but he's right about that stadium location. It's an area of Long Beach where there aren't (relatively) a lot of people, and it's miserable to get into and out of--it's the 710 and that's about it. LA's sprawling nature in general makes figuring out where to put a stadium hard, but getting to the Long Beach waterfront from most directions is particularly rough. They have metro service down there, which I think goes to the convention center, so that would be relatively convenient. They should totally have game day boat service with park and ride. A lot of people just getting on boats to a ballgame would be cool. The other problem is that a lot of Long Beach still is gonna be Dodger country. The Angels reluctance to embrace their Orange County-ness is self-defeating. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 14, 2019 11:02:06 GMT -5
Two thoughts. 1. This is another nail in the economic coffin that is California. 2. Long Beach is basically at the heart of traffic congestion. This is a nightmare waiting to happen. The Riverside area would make so much more sense. 1. The fifth largest economy in the world, home of some of the most dynamic modern industries, with the sixth highest per capita income in the nation, is an economic coffin? 2. The Riverside/San Bernardino metro area has about 4 million people. LA County alone has 10 million. One reason there's worse traffic in Long Beach is that that's where the people are. In general you want to put professional sports stadiums in places where the people are. Plus Long Beach has a Metro Rail connection at least. Having said that, cities are dumb for funding private stadiums, and it wouldn't surprise me if the Angels are just leveraging Long Beach to get a better deal out of Anaheim. ADD: Can't find it but there's a report that the 1.3 trillion debt is actually 2.3 trillion when you add in the pension funds. Also, if they keep they're Orange County customer base, a large portion would be traveling north along the coast through Huntington Beach. That would be a major nightmare. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 14, 2019 22:10:17 GMT -5
3 of the top 10 most debt ridden cities are California cities (and 3 are Texas cities): Chicago’s combined taxpayer burden: $119,110 New York City’s combined taxpayer burden: $85,600 Los Angeles’ combined taxpayer burden: $56,390Philadelphia’s combined taxpayer burden: $50,120 San Jose’s combined taxpayer burden: $43,120
San Diego’s combined taxpayer burden: $35,410Dallas’ combined taxpayer burden: $33,490
Houston’s combined taxpayer burden: $22,940
San Antonio’s combined taxpayer burden: $16,660Phoenix’s combined taxpayer burden: $13,290 www.lifezette.com/2019/05/our-largest-cities-many-of-them-democrat-strongholds-are-drowning-in-municipal-debt/?fbclid=IwAR1dFqTkQYGx9R2QCoTp7_HNnQjSUBxzEUgH0mqM-q4XOgp9E3RBo2BeBVM |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 18, 2019 6:35:53 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on May 18, 2019 17:11:20 GMT -5
3 of the top 10 most debt ridden cities are California cities (and 3 are Texas cities): Chicago’s combined taxpayer burden: $119,110 New York City’s combined taxpayer burden: $85,600 Los Angeles’ combined taxpayer burden: $56,390Philadelphia’s combined taxpayer burden: $50,120 San Jose’s combined taxpayer burden: $43,120
San Diego’s combined taxpayer burden: $35,410Dallas’ combined taxpayer burden: $33,490
Houston’s combined taxpayer burden: $22,940
San Antonio’s combined taxpayer burden: $16,660Phoenix’s combined taxpayer burden: $13,290 www.lifezette.com/2019/05/our-largest-cities-many-of-them-democrat-strongholds-are-drowning-in-municipal-debt/?fbclid=IwAR1dFqTkQYGx9R2QCoTp7_HNnQjSUBxzEUgH0mqM-q4XOgp9E3RBo2BeBVMThose aren't the ten most debt-ridden cities... those are the 10 largest cities sorted by debt burden. |
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Post by jchang on May 18, 2019 17:33:56 GMT -5
there is not going to be room for either traffic or parking anywhere in LA or other cities. For the Long Beach stadium to work, a new light rail would be needed, perhaps a coastal route connecting the other lines
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