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Post by caseytins on Feb 10, 2020 18:28:55 GMT -5
Right, this is the same thing as before. The Academy reported to DoD that he does not fall under the new policy because it does not apply retroactively and he's already been commissioned. That got reported incorrectly as his waiver request getting rejected by multiple outlets at first. His request for a waiver is still pending on the desks of the Secretaries of the Navy and of Defense. It never ends. If Obama were in charge, this would be resolved by now.
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Post by Addam603 on Feb 10, 2020 18:40:25 GMT -5
Right, this is the same thing as before. The Academy reported to DoD that he does not fall under the new policy because it does not apply retroactively and he's already been commissioned. That got reported incorrectly as his waiver request getting rejected by multiple outlets at first. His request for a waiver is still pending on the desks of the Secretaries of the Navy and of Defense. It never ends. If Obama were in charge, this we be resolved by now.Can we just all agree not to go down this rabbit hole?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Feb 10, 2020 18:42:54 GMT -5
Right, this is the same thing as before. The Academy reported to DoD that he does not fall under the new policy because it does not apply retroactively and he's already been commissioned. That got reported incorrectly as his waiver request getting rejected by multiple outlets at first. His request for a waiver is still pending on the desks of the Secretaries of the Navy and of Defense. It never ends. If Obama were in charge, this we be resolved by now.I'm sure he'd have seen to it personally.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 11, 2020 18:44:15 GMT -5
Right, this is the same thing as before. The Academy reported to DoD that he does not fall under the new policy because it does not apply retroactively and he's already been commissioned. That got reported incorrectly as his waiver request getting rejected by multiple outlets at first. His request for a waiver is still pending on the desks of the Secretaries of the Navy and of Defense. It never ends. If Obama were in charge, this we be resolved by now.Besides being yet another statement of ignorance, Song will have finished his entire commitment before we have a different President. For you, that puts a smile on my face.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 11, 2020 19:32:26 GMT -5
Any other political posts will be deleted. Thanks.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 12, 2020 22:50:21 GMT -5
When there is new information on Noah Song, it will certainly be posted here. Until then, no need to speculate on things - the wheels of government move at a snail's speed, and that's about all we know.
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Post by caseytins on Feb 13, 2020 0:46:52 GMT -5
I will let you know what I hear back. I am pissed off at the delay and am pushing for answers. I am crazy and won't tolerate human dysfunction.
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Noah Song
Feb 13, 2020 9:06:29 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by swingingbunt on Feb 13, 2020 9:06:29 GMT -5
Any other political posts will be deleted. Thanks. There's a joke in here about making your decision retroactively affect previous posts but I can't put my finger on it.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 19, 2020 16:02:59 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 19, 2020 16:18:11 GMT -5
Government is SLLLLLLLLOW.
when I had an internship in DC back in 2015 they were still using lotus notes for email.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 19, 2020 16:48:45 GMT -5
When there is new information on Noah Song, it will certainly be posted here. Until then, no need to speculate on things - the wheels of government move at a snail's speed, and that's about all we know. I’m starting to think the longer this goes on the better it is for the Sox.
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Post by stevedillard on Apr 30, 2020 15:35:37 GMT -5
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Post by sittingstill on May 27, 2020 19:48:05 GMT -5
Past tense making me a little anxious there.
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 27, 2020 20:02:09 GMT -5
I retweeted that and it was instantly deleted. Not sure what that was about, but pretty ominous.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 27, 2020 20:14:11 GMT -5
What was the tweet?
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Post by sittingstill on May 27, 2020 22:27:43 GMT -5
He posted a collage of photos of himself from the Navy win over Army at Fenway, Team USA, Lowell, etc. with a single line, something like "Loved every minute of it." That could be a highly inaccurate paraphrase but that was the gist.
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 29, 2020 10:17:18 GMT -5
"Enjoyed every minute."
It was a weird 20 minutes for someone that has been almost completely silent, with locked social media, to unlock, tweet, delete, and lock again. However, I was told the decision still remains at the Department of Defense level, and I know some of the SP team here heard the same as me.
The Navy is swearing in a new secretary today.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 29, 2020 20:47:33 GMT -5
With tensions mounting among the naval forces of several nations in the South China Sea, I would think that the decision would pretty much have to be impacted.
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Noah Song
May 30, 2020 14:36:24 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Chris Hatfield on May 30, 2020 14:36:24 GMT -5
The question is whether he has to go to flight school, not whether he's going to deploy to Asia, so no, that has nothing to do with the decision.
Unless you mean that attentions will be elsewhere, but that's been the case already.
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Noah Song
May 30, 2020 15:24:59 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on May 30, 2020 15:24:59 GMT -5
With tensions mounting among the naval forces of several nations in the South China Sea, I would think that the decision would pretty much have to be impacted. Tensions are high, to be sure. But I have a hard time believing that’ll have any impact on him. If he goes to flight school, he’ll be in training for the better part of a year and a half before he’s even considered for a deployable, operational assignment.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 30, 2020 16:48:07 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure he would have started his flight school by now and I doubt if the Navy is thinking that a situation will only last a few months. There have been several weapons systems upgrade discussions that haven't even been built yet and the Chinese are also making additions that don't appear to be short term. The Navy just finished testing a laser cannon, coincidentally done in the Western Pacific and released video. That's a tad unusual. There were 22 nations that signed off on the demand for an investigation and several have already increased their presence in the area, some substantially.
Politically and technically, this is the first time since WWII that two fleets (the 3rd and the 7th) have coverage in the same theater (The Western Pacific).
I also don't think releasing Song is a signal the Navy is likely to want to send. Five months ago yes, it just seems far less likely now. I hope I'm wrong there.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 30, 2020 18:29:40 GMT -5
Ray, we've reported that he has not started flight school - at the time things shut down b/c of COVID-19, he was still in Annapolis awaiting a decision on his waiver request. There's no chance he's reported to flight school in the interim.
The decision to grant a single Academy graduate his waiver request or not is not going to account for the fact of this South China Sea thing (which you've now brought up a number of times - I'm not sure if you're just trying to shoehorn that into this thread or something?). Even if they deny his waiver now, he's just going to apply for another waiver next year. This isn't losing some career general to the major leagues or something.
The obstacle to Song right now is the fact that the Navy is kind of a mess at the top, and that there are numerous other things higher on the priority list. It is some consolation that one of the two years he might wind up missing is a wash for everyone, so he's not necessarily falling behind. But we'll see what happens. I'm sure the fact that it's not like there's baseball for him to come back to at the moment is also going to slow down a decision on his request.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 30, 2020 20:25:55 GMT -5
We'll have to agree to disagree then. I think it will have a major impact, you don't, flight school or no flight school.
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Post by orion09 on May 31, 2020 0:20:54 GMT -5
Ray, we've reported that he has not started flight school - at the time things shut down b/c of COVID-19, he was still in Annapolis awaiting a decision on his waiver request. There's no chance he's reported to flight school in the interim. The decision to grant a single Academy graduate his waiver request or not is not going to account for the fact of this South China Sea thing (which you've now brought up a number of times - I'm not sure if you're just trying to shoehorn that into this thread or something?). Even if they deny his waiver now, he's just going to apply for another waiver next year. This isn't losing some career general to the major leagues or something. The obstacle to Song right now is the fact that the Navy is kind of a mess at the top, and that there are numerous other things higher on the priority list. It is some consolation that one of the two years he might wind up missing is a wash for everyone, so he's not necessarily falling behind. But we'll see what happens. I'm sure the fact that it's not like there's baseball for him to come back to at the moment is also going to slow down a decision on his request. Is time-spent in the interim, before his reporting to flight school, counted toward his commitment?
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 31, 2020 12:54:17 GMT -5
Is time-spent in the interim, before his reporting to flight school, counted toward his commitment? The guest on the podcast last week, some type of military reporter (?), believes this time is counting, so a year down. If I remember correctly the conversation seemed to doubt he would actually leave flight school this time next year if he is ordered there in the meantime.
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