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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 23, 2019 13:55:31 GMT -5
awful. Nunez has the range of my grandmother
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 23, 2019 13:55:55 GMT -5
Look at the bright side, at least it won't go into extras.
So ends the Red Sox series win streak at 2.
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Post by ivor on Jun 23, 2019 13:57:12 GMT -5
well if we make the WC game, at least it'll be on the road
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Post by station13 on Jun 23, 2019 13:58:25 GMT -5
Damn Sogard got the Porcello meatball there.
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Post by tizzle on Jun 23, 2019 13:58:37 GMT -5
At least the game is effectively over early in the afternoon. Time to enjoy the day.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 23, 2019 13:59:25 GMT -5
Can we stop pitching to Vlad Jr. Like he's his dad? Not saying he won't get there, but he's still a guy with a .732 OPS.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 23, 2019 14:00:22 GMT -5
And sure enough, he strikes out with no pitches in the zone.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 23, 2019 14:02:26 GMT -5
Devers has been worth 2.4 fWAR so far this season. Nunez has been 3 WAR worse than that.
Such a hit to this team if any of the good players miss any time at all because somehow it always means Nunez plays more, so not only are you losing a good player you're adding a guy who actively subtracts value from the team.
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jun 23, 2019 14:03:48 GMT -5
Mookie is no All Star this year.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 23, 2019 14:06:55 GMT -5
Porcello has given us very good starts recently. I won't get down on him. Tough deal here so far...but plenty of season left.
When I was younger, and without having seen 4 championships, I would be an emotional mess right now. But I am older and I have seen 4 championships, so I am not a mess right now.
It is one thing good about old age...wisdom and patience.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 23, 2019 14:11:17 GMT -5
If you're the Yankees, whose a better investment for you, Scherzer or Stroman?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 23, 2019 14:11:34 GMT -5
So...what is the solution to the offense's consistent struggles?
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Post by station13 on Jun 23, 2019 14:13:42 GMT -5
If you're the Yankees, whose a better investment for you, Scherzer or Stroman? They might able to get both for free by trading Phil Hughes, Kennedy, Montero, Sheffield. Incredible they get team to receive nothing back.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 23, 2019 14:14:15 GMT -5
i can't believe how they've chosen to keep nunez around
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Post by station13 on Jun 23, 2019 14:14:19 GMT -5
So...what is the solution to the offense's consistent struggles? Betts and JDM player better.
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 23, 2019 14:14:37 GMT -5
Its time to brawl, Strohman is a dick
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 23, 2019 14:15:54 GMT -5
If you're the Yankees, whose a better investment for you, Scherzer or Stroman? They might able to get both for free by trading Phil Hughes, Kennedy, Montero, Sheffield. Incredible they get team to receive nothing back. GM's should probably stop making trades with Cashman. Even his small deals for what were seen as spare parts at the time, like freaking Chase Shreve for Luke Voit turn into gold.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 23, 2019 14:18:00 GMT -5
Its time to brawl, Strohman is a dick This is what this stuff has come to. People think it is great to see ballplayers have fun and express themselves (gagging right now)
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Post by congusgambler33 on Jun 23, 2019 14:19:32 GMT -5
too many underperforming this year. Bogey,Devers and Vaz only ones playing consistently well. Mookie,JD,Beni, all below last years pace. Some of this is expected, but not to be so uncompetitive all year. 2 steps forward and 2 steps back wont cut it.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 23, 2019 14:21:18 GMT -5
They might able to get both for free by trading Phil Hughes, Kennedy, Montero, Sheffield. Incredible they get team to receive nothing back. GM's should probably stop making trades with Cashman. Even his small deals for what were seen as spare parts at the time, like freaking Chase Shreve for Luke Voit turn into gold. He has had a nice run lately....but he has been a GM for almost 20 years and has really 1 world series championship that (2009) that was his club. He has had a lot of terrible trades / FA signings. A lot of the posting about Cashman around here has a bunch of recency bias.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 23, 2019 14:25:02 GMT -5
GM's should probably stop making trades with Cashman. Even his small deals for what were seen as spare parts at the time, like freaking Chase Shreve for Luke Voit turn into gold. He has had a nice run lately....but he has been a GM for almost 20 years and has really 1 world series championship that (2009) that was his club. He has had a lot of terrible trades / FA signings. A lot of the posting about Cashman around here has a bunch of recency bias. A lot of his bad moves could be attributed to Steinbrenner interference. He's really built a juggernaut as of late.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 23, 2019 14:26:18 GMT -5
GM's should probably stop making trades with Cashman. Even his small deals for what were seen as spare parts at the time, like freaking Chase Shreve for Luke Voit turn into gold. He has had a nice run lately....but he has been a GM for almost 20 years and has really 1 world series championship that (2009) that was his club. He has had a lot of terrible trades / FA signings. A lot of the posting about Cashman around here has a bunch of recency bias. Just an opinion, but I think that he studied Theo Epstein pretty well after Theo was schooling him early on in the rivalry (2003 - 2007 time period) and I think he became a better GM. The last few years, I think he has done an excellent job. He's rebuilt the team without every having to go through a sub .500/90 something loss season. He's made a lot of trades recently where what he surrendered was nowhere near the value he received. I think the Yankees are well positioned to win 100 - 105 games and I expect they will. They are a real threat to win the World Series, particularly if Cashman gets a top notch starting pitcher as I suspect he will.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 23, 2019 14:27:10 GMT -5
He has had a nice run lately....but he has been a GM for almost 20 years and has really 1 world series championship that (2009) that was his club. He has had a lot of terrible trades / FA signings. A lot of the posting about Cashman around here has a bunch of recency bias. A lot of his bad moves could be attributed to Steinbrenner interference. He's really built a juggernaut as of late. Good point. The Tampa faction was usually in his way until George passed away. Those were some very old school guys.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 23, 2019 14:36:51 GMT -5
This team has more issues than a spent BP.
This offense is and has been a mess
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 23, 2019 14:38:32 GMT -5
He has had a nice run lately....but he has been a GM for almost 20 years and has really 1 world series championship that (2009) that was his club. He has had a lot of terrible trades / FA signings. A lot of the posting about Cashman around here has a bunch of recency bias. A lot of his bad moves could be attributed to Steinbrenner interference. He's really built a juggernaut as of late. Are you talking about Hank and Hal ? I mean, Stick Michael was the reason for the great core and he was a George hire and Cashman learned on the job from that front office. And it was just a couple of years ago when they were very middling. The signed Chapman....without a hint of remorse...and turned him into major prospects. Then they overbid us for Miller and turned him into major prospects. They have had some recent prospect success. Even the Giancarlo trade was forced in their direction. And now that the ball is juiced it seems that having hulking guys who can bench press 400 is an asset. I mean, they still have more resources than everyone else.
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