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cdj
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Post by cdj on Aug 7, 2019 7:10:02 GMT -5
If things go sideways between now and mid-August and they fall completely out of contention, Tanner Houck replaces a pitcher. Didn't expect this to be the case by now. Le Sigh. If Houck needed to be added to the 40-man I'd think they might add him, but I doubt they add to any potential roster concerns and option considerations to get him 10 innings this September. I expect he'll replace Feltman, who I think might need a full offseason, and who also might do well to be away from the potential hype of the AFL. I've mentioned this elsewhere, but I do think the outsized expectations on him put on a lot of pressure and contributed to his slow start. I blame carrabis
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 7, 2019 7:27:55 GMT -5
Question: when you say “adjustments,” what kind of scouting is going on at the minor league level? Like, do they have advance scouts/analysts preparing reports, video, heatmaps, etc for the players, making sure the league will find holes in a player’s swing, and really force an adjustment like at the MLB level, or is it just like “I threw that dude a low fastball back in April and he hit a double, so I guess I’ll try something else this time”? That's a really good question. In general, it's a function of the divisions being smaller and teams seeing each other so often that they make adjustments based on their own observations and those of teammates and the coaching staff. But I wonder how much of the technological advances have gotten to the minor leagues. Most parks have statcast now, so I'd have to think there's more of that. Short season teams are shifting. That tells you all you need to know about what they have as far as advanced data. I remember when we were all stunned that Josh Ockimey was getting shifted in Greenville, but at this point, I see teams shifting 2 or 3 hitters from the other team during A-ball games, and it's not a treatment reserved for the studs - the Boston clubs have been shifting Ryan Ripken this year, Cal's kid who hits 9th and, well, it's clear why he's in the system. Look at the Carolina League, which has just 10 teams. The fifth time you're playing a team, you better have picked up some of their players' tendencies! And it certainly works both ways - Michael Osinski, who'd just been promoted, had Portland's first two RBI against Bowie the other night, but both RBI hits came against Cody Sedlock, who he'd seen while he was with Salem and was quite familiar with as compared to the starter, who had him flummoxed. But it's a constant chess game. There's a reason players typically slowly progress through the system. I admittedly don't have as the encyclopedic knowledge of other systems to be able to compare the Red Sox to other teams, but they have shown a willingness to be extremely aggressive: Skipping Devers over Pawtucket at age 20, making Benintendi a MLB regular barely more than a year after he was drafted, starting Feltman in AA in his first full pro season, etc. There's no one-size-fits-all approach to player development, so some guys will go slow, others faster.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 22, 2019 14:48:34 GMT -5
Another thread we usually have by now. I'd missed this, but the league will be earlier this year, running mid-September through the end of October. They also officially got rid of the restriction on only one player below AA per org (I feel like that hadn't been enforced in the past couple years anyway...) www.baseballamerica.com/stories/arizona-fall-league-announces-schedule-personnel-changes-for-2019/In past years, they announced the rosters at the end of August, but given that, I wonder if they'll move the announcement up as well. For me, I speculate the following players will go: Austin Rei - desperately needs the reps after being hurt most of the year CJ Chatham - perhaps to get reps at 2B and 3B as well as SS? Marcus Wilson Jarren Duran - I'm unsure on this one because I could see them saying he'd be better off resting after his first full season. (Or, perhaps, calling him up to pinch run, although I think that's much less likely now than I did in, say, May.) Dark horse candidate - Ryan Fitzgerald - before you scoff, consider that he's half a year older than Chatham. One of Denyi Reyes, Kutter Crawford, or Kyle Hart as the SP. Durbin Feltman - Although I have the same concern here as with Duran Eduard Bazardo - Token R5 RP slot. Maybe Jake Cosart if he gets healthy? If things go sideways between now and mid-August and they fall completely out of contention, Tanner Houck replaces a pitcher. Bump. What do folks think? After talking with Mike and Ian, I'm thinking Dalbec instead of Duran, in order to get the former more work at 1B. After his first full season, Duran can probably use the break more than the reps. If Crawford is healthy, he's definitely the SP now. If not... I wonder if McGrath is the guy.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 27, 2019 20:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 28, 2019 15:15:35 GMT -5
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Post by brendan98 on Aug 28, 2019 15:24:11 GMT -5
One of the most exciting groups top to bottom, that I can remember the Sox sending.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 28, 2019 15:55:35 GMT -5
One of the most exciting groups top to bottom, that I can remember the Sox sending. All killer, no filler. Love it. That said, kind of surprised on Mata. Wonder if he'll work in relief to keep innings down... There's a tba pitcher as well.
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Post by patford on Aug 28, 2019 17:35:56 GMT -5
One of the most exciting groups top to bottom, that I can remember the Sox sending. All killer, no filler. Love it. That said, kind of surprised on Mata. Wonder if he'll work in relief to keep innings down... There's a tba pitcher as well. The Mata thing is both surprising and encouraging. Surprising because of the number of innings he has thrown and past injury issues and encouraging for the same two reasons. If that isn't clear I am pretty sure the Sox monitor these very things closely and the fact they are sending him says to me they have no concerns.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 28, 2019 17:53:25 GMT -5
Don't love Mata being included being can't deny the excitement of all those prospects.
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Post by orion09 on Aug 31, 2019 12:30:32 GMT -5
Does Houck’s going to the AFL preclude him from being a Sept callup?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 31, 2019 12:31:16 GMT -5
Does Houck’s going to the AFL preclude him from being a Sept callup? It means they probably aren't planning on calling him up, imo. They could certainly change their minds though.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 31, 2019 21:12:24 GMT -5
Dalbec and Alan Marrero possibilities as well? I wish Groome was healthier by now. Groome is an interesting thought. Too inexperienced, and he almost certainly needs the time in instructs, but I think he’s a real good shot to go next year.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 31, 2019 21:19:45 GMT -5
I like the Wilson inclusion, and Duran. Houck I thought might be up in Sept, but this makes sense with him maybe competing for a spot in ST. I wish Chatham would start showing a little pop, but they might be considering him as a 2b option next year. Mata I argued for earlier in the year, although James made the good point that he might need a little breather. But I’d like to see him add innings and ramp up, so this is helpful. Would’ve liked Dalbec, but with that roster, I’m thinking they bring him up in Sept for a crack at 1b. Subaru (edit: Aybar. Odd autocorrect) has a helluva arm, we’ll see. Certainly the most all-around talented groups I’ve seen from the Sox.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 3, 2019 0:47:29 GMT -5
Mata relieving to keep the innings down.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 14, 2019 20:23:00 GMT -5
Jhonathan Diaz added to the Red Sox contingent.
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Post by Addam603 on Sept 18, 2019 16:25:08 GMT -5
First shot at seeing the Sox Prospects in the Arizona Fall League tonight. Chatham playing 2B, batting second. Wilson playing RF and batting 6th.
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Post by gerry on Sept 18, 2019 18:51:26 GMT -5
One of the problems of an early AFL is the heat. It is now 101 degrees in Phx area and won’t get under 100 til 7pm. Hot!!! It’s the desert and heat stroke is common. A little cooler this weekend as this High dissipates, but still in the 90’s with 100’s at any time. I sure won’t be going over there for a few more weeks, sadly. Having endured yet another record summer of heat, it is apparent this won’t get better. A conundrum for outdoor baseball in hot areas.
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Post by cdj on Sept 18, 2019 19:40:59 GMT -5
Is this where the party is at from now on?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 18, 2019 19:58:28 GMT -5
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Post by RedSoxStats on Sept 18, 2019 20:27:07 GMT -5
Click on log then click on box
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 18, 2019 20:43:24 GMT -5
Click on log then click on box They just added the links.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Sept 18, 2019 22:15:30 GMT -5
Diaz's hardest pitches of the night were 91.7 and 91.0.
Wilson hit a 97.1 mph Shane Baz fastball for a 105.6 mph single. Also a 97 mph single and 101 mph, 386' double.
Chatham's single was hit 100.5 mph.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 18, 2019 23:54:56 GMT -5
Quite the opening day for Sox prospects.
Chatham 2/4 with a 2B and a BB, 3R, RBI Wilson 3/4 with a BB 3RBI, R Diaz 2IP 1H 1BB 3K
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Post by Addam603 on Sept 19, 2019 6:20:30 GMT -5
Quite the opening day for Sox prospects. Chatham 2/4 with a 2B and a BB, 3R, RBI Wilson 3/4 with a BB 3RBI, R Diaz 2IP 1H 1BB 3K Diaz had 9 swinging strikes in 2 innings (3 FB, 4 CH, 2 SL).
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Post by cdj on Sept 19, 2019 7:57:12 GMT -5
Diaz's hardest pitches of the night were 91.7 and 91.0. Wilson hit a 97.1 mph Shane Baz fastball for a 105.6 mph single. Also a 97 mph single and 101 mph, 386' double. Chatham's single was hit 100.5 mph. If Diaz adds one more tick to his fastball we may be looking at a back end of the rotation type guy as opposed to a shuttle arm
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