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9/5 Gameday Thread: These Teams Are Groomed for the Playoffs
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Post by telson13 on Sept 5, 2019 20:30:10 GMT -5
This had better make ESPN. It’s just unheard of. It's not televised so I doubt it. Awww, man...gave up his first baserunner. I’m really curious about him. Even though he started in Greenville (which was more age-appropriate) and struggled a *little*, he still had more K than IP. And his GB/FB ratio was the same. I kind of wonder if he’s like Yusmeiro Petit. Petit always got more than his fair share of whiffs, despite fringy to below-average velocity, as well as a good IFFB rate. Petit’s nearly always had good to excellent control, and he commanded a high-spin 4FB up in/out of the zone (same spot as Workman, but with better spin I think). If I recall, he also had/has great extension despite not being very tall. He’s having another very good year this year (0.82 WHIP, just 2.6% walk rate...Koji-esque one might say, tho not with the high K totals anymore), works in 3 secondaries all around 15-20%. I’d be fascinated to hear an explanation for YPA’s relative dominance, hoping it goes beyond “old for his level and commands his breakers against inexperienced competition.” Might be all there is but Padrón-Artilles had himself a solid year, and an absolutely insane playoff game run right there. Great baseball name, too.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 20:32:55 GMT -5
It's not televised so I doubt it. Awww, man...gave up his first baserunner. I’m really curious about him. Even though he started in Greenville (which was more age-appropriate) and struggled a *little*, he still had more K than IP. And his GB/FB ratio was the same. I kind of wonder if he’s like Yusmeiro Petit. Petit always got more than his fair share of whiffs, despite fringy to below-average velocity, as well as a good IFFB rate. Petit’s nearly always had good to excellent control, and he commanded a high-spin 4FB up in/out of the zone (same spot as Workman, but with better spin I think). If I recall, he also had/has great extension despite not being very tall. He’s having another very good year this year (0.82 WHIP, just 2.6% walk rate...Koji-esque one might say, tho not with the high K totals anymore), works in 3 secondaries all around 15-20%. I’d be fascinated to hear an explanation for YPA’s relative dominance, hoping it goes beyond “old for his level and commands his breakers against inexperienced competition.” Might be all there is but Padrón-Artilles had himself a solid year, and an absolutely insane playoff game run right there. Great baseball name, too. Ian Cundall Ian CundallYusniel Padron-Artilles has faced twelve hitters in relief. He has struck out all twelve of them. Stuff better than I’ve seen from him before. Velo up, FB 90-92 T93. CH 80-82 showing late fade and snapping off CB 70-75. Mixing all three pitches and keeping ball down.
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Post by Addam603 on Sept 5, 2019 20:43:39 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 20:44:35 GMT -5
Better than ESPN:
Alex Speier @alexspeier ·
Jay Groome pitched three innings in a Lowell playoff game ... and then was overshadowed completely by Yusniel Padron-Artilles striking out THE NEXT 12 BATTERS in relief.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 5, 2019 20:47:12 GMT -5
Awww, man...gave up his first baserunner. I’m really curious about him. Even though he started in Greenville (which was more age-appropriate) and struggled a *little*, he still had more K than IP. And his GB/FB ratio was the same. I kind of wonder if he’s like Yusmeiro Petit. Petit always got more than his fair share of whiffs, despite fringy to below-average velocity, as well as a good IFFB rate. Petit’s nearly always had good to excellent control, and he commanded a high-spin 4FB up in/out of the zone (same spot as Workman, but with better spin I think). If I recall, he also had/has great extension despite not being very tall. He’s having another very good year this year (0.82 WHIP, just 2.6% walk rate...Koji-esque one might say, tho not with the high K totals anymore), works in 3 secondaries all around 15-20%. I’d be fascinated to hear an explanation for YPA’s relative dominance, hoping it goes beyond “old for his level and commands his breakers against inexperienced competition.” Might be all there is but Padrón-Artilles had himself a solid year, and an absolutely insane playoff game run right there. Great baseball name, too. Ian Cundall Ian CundallYusniel Padron-Artilles has faced twelve hitters in relief. He has struck out all twelve of them. Stuff better than I’ve seen from him before. Velo up, FB 90-92 T93. CH 80-82 showing late fade and snapping off CB 70-75. Mixing all three pitches and keeping ball down. Awesome, thank you. I’ve gotta get Twitter so I can follow this stuff. The velo being up is real nice to see...it’s just fringy/hair below average for a LH, especially considering he went 6 and basically 100 pitches. As a JUCO guy, maybe coaching finds him a tick or two? Certainly the profile reminds me of a LH Petit. I figured he would just be an org guy, but maybe not. Could be a sleeper “guy.” FWIW, looking at Petit’s heat maps on savant, he actually works lower in the zone with the FB than I thought, though he commands the edges. And he *really* spots his secondaries. Similar GB/FB ratio to YPA too. Some very nice pitching performances from the Sox affiliates today. Groome has a solid game, YPA goes nuts, and Ward just keeps doing his thing like he has all year. There may not be much up top in the system, but they’re loaded with talent in A/SS ball.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 20:57:55 GMT -5
Ian Cundall Ian CundallYusniel Padron-Artilles has faced twelve hitters in relief. He has struck out all twelve of them. Stuff better than I’ve seen from him before. Velo up, FB 90-92 T93. CH 80-82 showing late fade and snapping off CB 70-75. Mixing all three pitches and keeping ball down. Awesome, thank you. I’ve gotta get Twitter so I can follow this stuff. The velo being up is real nice to see...it’s just fringy/hair below average for a LH, especially considering he went 6 and basically 100 pitches. As a JUCO guy, maybe coaching finds him a tick or two? Certainly the profile reminds me of a LH Petit. I figured he would just be an org guy, but maybe not. Could be a sleeper “guy.” FWIW, looking at Petit’s heat maps on savant, he actually works lower in the zone with the FB than I thought, though he commands the edges. And he *really* spots his secondaries. Similar GB/FB ratio to YPA too. Some very nice pitching performances from the Sox affiliates today. Groome has a solid game, YPA goes nuts, and Ward just keeps doing his thing like he has all year. There may not be much up top in the system, but they’re loaded with talent in A/SS ball. Twitter is a good source for info. I almost never tweet anything and rarely even reply but I follow 119 people, almost all baseball and almost no individual players (except Westmoreland). Mostly writers and analysts.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 5, 2019 21:01:35 GMT -5
One last thing for YPA: get that man a cutter! A control-command LH with 4 pitches who can maybe sit 90-93 and T94-95...that’s a viable MLBer. I assume he starts in Greenville and is a June 1 promotion candidate if he repeats his Lowell line. If he hits Salem at 22, it’s a little behind but not badly. That Lowell staff, man..,YPA, Groome coming back, the three draftees (still can’t get over how good they ALL look right now), and Aldo Ramirez (boy, does he look like a find at 18)...Greenville is gonna be STACKED to start next year. Be cool to watch the whole lot of ‘em climb the ladder together. Hopefully Song gets his waiver. But even if not...there’s your starting five.
Edit: Wait, he’s a RH?! Why was I convinced he was a LH? Now he *really* reminds me of Petit...right down to repertoire (4FB/CH/CB). Add the CU and it’s the same mix.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 21:29:08 GMT -5
One last thing for YPA: get that man a cutter! A control-command LH with 4 pitches who can maybe sit 90-93 and T94-95...that’s a viable MLBer. I assume he starts in Greenville and is a June 1 promotion candidate if he repeats his Lowell line. If he hits Salem at 22, it’s a little behind but not badly. That Lowell staff, man..,YPA, Groome coming back, the three draftees (still can’t get over how good they ALL look right now), and Aldo Ramirez (boy, does he look like a find at 18)...Greenville is gonna be STACKED to start next year. Be cool to watch the whole lot of ‘em climb the ladder together. Hopefully Song gets his waiver. But even if not...there’s your starting five. Edit: Wait, he’s a RH?! Why was I convinced he was a LH? Now he *really* reminds me of Petit...right down to repertoire (4FB/CH/CB). Add the CU and it’s the same mix. That makes no sense. Petit was a lefty.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 21:36:30 GMT -5
Salem has now won 12 of their last 13 games.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 5, 2019 21:38:04 GMT -5
I think he's referring to Yusmeiro.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 21:55:55 GMT -5
Ian Cundall Ian CundallHeck of a finish in Lowell. #RedSox 2019 19th rd pick Joe Davis out of @uhcougarbb with a walkoff HR to left-center. RHP Yusniel Padron-Artilles also excellent: 6 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 14 K. One of the best pitching performances I’ve seen from a Red Sox farmhand. . . . Pretty high praise from Ian. I'm guessing the tools boost will put him well into the Top 60 at year end. 40's maybe ?
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Post by sittingstill on Sept 5, 2019 22:02:53 GMT -5
Easier than reposting the photos...
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 5, 2019 22:18:21 GMT -5
In the other NYPL semi-final, four Brooklyn pitchers combined for a one-hit shutout, while a ringer named Jed Lowrie hit a solo homer to give them a 1-0 win over Hudson Valley and even that series at 1-1.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 22:54:23 GMT -5
I just saw a @byjordanwolf tweet on the Lowell game. There was a sequence in which 11 straight batters struck out: atavia Top of the 6th J.D. Orr strikes out swinging. Dalvy Rosario strikes out swinging. Troy Johnston strikes out swinging. Lowell Bottom of the 6th Wil Dalton strikes out swinging. Cameron Cannon strikes out swinging. Joe Davis strikes out swinging, catcher Michael Hernandez to first baseman Julian Infante. Batavia Top of the 7th Nic Ready called out on strikes. Albert Guaimaro strikes out swinging. Julian Infante strikes out swinging. Lowell Bottom of the 7th Roldani Baldwin strikes out swinging. Nick Decker strikes out swinging. Read more: www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2019_09_05_batasx_lowasx_1&t=g_log&sid=milb#ixzz5yiIE57FE
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Post by manfred on Sept 5, 2019 23:07:28 GMT -5
Easier than reposting the photos... Look, I don’t care if Joe Davis can hit a lick. I want to see that body in a Sox uniform at some point. Oooolllld school belly action. Love it.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 5, 2019 23:13:57 GMT -5
Yeah but the handlebar mustache is gone.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 5, 2019 23:24:01 GMT -5
Today I dropped my daughter off for first grade, got to write up this joyousness in the Cup of Coffee, ate pancakes for dinner, and didn't get picked as the person at work to sit through a 90-minute meeting (it was a 50/50 chance). Eat your heart out, Ice Cube.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 5, 2019 23:28:35 GMT -5
The Lowell game was so crazy that Tyler Esplin hitting two bombs to put Salem up 2-0 in its series went pretty under-the-radar. Esplin finished the year very strong, he hit .325/.404/.494 in August before getting the bump to Salem on 9/1 with Casas.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 6, 2019 1:00:52 GMT -5
Lisa Reynolds @copyincity Twelve. Strikeouts. IN A ROW. In total, 14 strikeouts, and just one hit, in six innings of relief pitching. By comparison, the MLB record for consecutive strikeouts is 10. “Gem” is an understatement for what Yusniel Padrom-Artiles did tonight for Lowell. I love baseball.
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Post by soxfan511 on Sept 6, 2019 1:45:52 GMT -5
Congrats to YPA on a historical achievement
Great night for Salem and Lowell! Great night for our minor league systems pitching!
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Post by cdj on Sept 6, 2019 6:38:16 GMT -5
The Lowell game was so crazy that Tyler Esplin hitting two bombs to put Salem up 2-0 in its series went pretty under-the-radar. Esplin finished the year very strong, he hit .325/.404/.494 in August before getting the bump to Salem on 9/1 with Casas. Him getting that bump raised my eyebrow a bit- not that I disagreed with it but because it indicates to me that they think pretty highly of the kid to have him appear in A+ So soon. A little more loft in his swing would do him wonders. He did Hit it in the air a little more frequently this year, hopefully he takes another step in the right direction on that front because he’s a big boy I feel like he’s one of those guys where something might click and he’ll spike from 5 homers to 20 out of the blue. Def has the frame for power
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Post by jbsox on Sept 6, 2019 6:57:58 GMT -5
Is it fair to say that the Sox have accumulated a horde of exciting arms in what feels like a hurry? Groome, Mata, Song, Murphy, Zeferjahn, Houck, Ward, and of course Darwinzon.... that is a lot of promise right there. I mean, that could be 2/3 of a staff in 2-3 years. You forgot Brayan Bello! I absolutely **LOVE** their draft this year for pitching. I think Bell could turn out to be a savvy pick whose command issues were mostly post-TJ. Zeferjahn has pretty much just one bad start, when he was hurt (I think it was a blister or something...don’t recall, but it was minor), and he’s looked real good. Song has basically been as advertised; I mean, he looks like a 1s/2 round pick. And friggin’ Chris Murphy using his secondaries and throwing basically an average FB for a LHSP (maybe even a smidge above)...but commanding everything. Having Groome back out there is terrific...dude was the 12th pick and in convos for 1 overall for a while. He’s got 1a/2 upside. And he’s still relatively young. He was only 17 when they picked him. He could be on-track age-wise by next fall (start in Greenville, early promotion candidate to Salem, finishing the year at 22). Mata throws absolute gas and the cutter has become a weapon. He made strides this year, finished with a great start, and is another early promotion candidate if he shoves in Portland (at just 21). Ward has hopped right into the map **and is dealing** tonight. He might even be a 3/4 instead of a 5/6. System took a pretty good leap forward this year, especially with that draft. Even my man Bello finished very strong. Might be 3-4 years before these guys all arrive/produce, but it’s a helluva collection of arms considering how the year started. The timing could turn out pretty well when some of these starters are ready for the majors, and Price and Eovaldi’s contracts come off the books. If you are trying to project out 3 years from now if could be 2 expensive starters with Sale (only 2 years left at that time) and Erod, and 3 hopefully cost controlled starters/bullpen that will hopefully help us extend whoever else we want to for positional players Devers Beni ect with hopefully Betts in the fold. I guess next year’s draft is strong for college pitchers so hopefully we can stock up again.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 6, 2019 7:53:17 GMT -5
Today I dropped my daughter off for first grade, got to write up this joyousness in the Cup of Coffee, ate pancakes for dinner, and didn't get picked as the person at work to sit through a 90-minute meeting (it was a 50/50 chance). Eat your heart out, Ice Cube. In the Cup of Coffee you said YPA tied a record but the link you posted said he broke the record. First grade daughters are distracting so we'll award a mulligan here.
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Post by sittingstill on Sept 6, 2019 8:22:53 GMT -5
I just want to add that YPA is a blast to watch. It's a bit surprising that there isn't steam coming out of his ears on the mound. I'm not sure I've seen anyone breathe like he does. It's not a fist-pumping, taunting attitude--he just appears SO consumed by ferocious energy that he has to pause to breathe intentionally so he doesn't pass out. Very fierce. It was a real treat to be present for that performance.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 6, 2019 9:10:56 GMT -5
Today I dropped my daughter off for first grade, got to write up this joyousness in the Cup of Coffee, ate pancakes for dinner, and didn't get picked as the person at work to sit through a 90-minute meeting (it was a 50/50 chance). Eat your heart out, Ice Cube. In the Cup of Coffee you said YPA tied a record but the link you posted said he broke the record. First grade daughters are distracting so we'll award a mulligan here. Yep, even better! I think the article may have been updated. The Cup has been updated as well with a correction note. Pretty amazing stuff.
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