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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 3, 2020 20:11:25 GMT -5
Should have put this game away... Lowrie scares the hell out of me
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Post by philarhody on Sept 3, 2020 20:12:44 GMT -5
35 seconds away from a 3-0 lead. Need a stop and no turnovers
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Post by philarhody on Sept 3, 2020 20:14:01 GMT -5
Kemba is coooold!!!
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 3, 2020 20:16:18 GMT -5
That’s a rough loss
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 3, 2020 20:16:29 GMT -5
Jaylen with a complete brain fart. Pathetic loss.
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Post by philarhody on Sept 3, 2020 20:17:30 GMT -5
Wow. That hurts. Who was Jaylen guarding?
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 3, 2020 20:17:32 GMT -5
Series changer
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 3, 2020 20:19:29 GMT -5
You absolutely cannot fall asleep there the way Jaylen did. Just an absolute choke.
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Post by philarhody on Sept 3, 2020 20:21:03 GMT -5
Hopefully they let this sting a bit and punch em hard in the mouth next game. Still have to win two games.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 3, 2020 20:21:55 GMT -5
It takes a mini miracle for them to get one win. I wasn't expecting a sweep. No biggie it's on Taco he's bad luck.🤣
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Post by blucore on Sept 3, 2020 20:32:34 GMT -5
OG is in the corner alone for a 2 count and then Lowry throws the pass. Jaylen is asleep guarding Gasol at the FT circle. What a shameful way to lose.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 3, 2020 21:13:27 GMT -5
Don't put this solely on Jaylen, everyone sucked ass, even Stevens could have schemed it better and not guard the inbounds. Play 5 on 4 and try to get a tip. Don't zone and put guys in the position to miss a rotation.
Anyway, this hurts. Kudos to OG for that big shot.
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Post by ianrs on Sept 4, 2020 2:19:44 GMT -5
Yeah that was a joke of a scheme call by Brad. He tries to get too cute when you could literally just 5v4 and have Smart roam as a free safety. Awful loss and potentially series changing. Brad also should have played Kanter 0 minutes. The loss is on Brad.
Plus sides: Team faces adversity early, plays pissed next game. Tatum only scored 15 and we still almost won. We get more basketball.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 4, 2020 6:45:45 GMT -5
Lost in that loss last night was how Tatum, despite an off offensive night, almost carried them to the win by driving to the hoop and scoring and setting up others. It’s like he read UMass’s post that he wasn’t good at setting up teammates at the rim. He was unbelievable.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 4, 2020 12:03:26 GMT -5
Brad also should have played Kanter 0 minutes. The loss is on Brad. Disagree on both accounts. Kanter made some sense because Toronto was playing LEGENDARY defense in the 3rd and we needed to score anyway possible. And this loss is not on Brad. I was so angry I had trouble sleeping last night, but rolling around in the bed gave me some time for perspective and you know what. I'm only getting angry when they play poorly and they definitely didn't play poorly last night. Anything can happen in a game and sadly something very rare happened against us. If this is a series changer and we don't make it past Toronto, then they were never a contender to begin with and then it at least would end early. Like Nietzche said, "hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man." Taking down the champs is not supposed to be easy.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 4, 2020 12:04:20 GMT -5
I'm not going to blame anyone, yet it's like Stevens got bored and wanted to try new things in this game. Leaves in Williams for a crazy long stretch for no reason which allowed Siakam to get going. Which was funny given the discussion we just had. Why? Rotating defenders on him had worked all series long. I'm not surprised he'd play Kanter, yet using him like that for four minutes made zero sense. To guard the inbound vs not is splitting hairs, I see both sides. Yet why Taco over Robert Williams? Williams has experience and Lowry knows he can jump out of the gym, while also knowing Taco can't jump. I just don't get that, role with the guys you are playing, the guys with experience. That will help communication.
It seems kinda clear Smart is like a Jackie Bradley, yet it's game to game with him. He's basically the same guy he's always been. It just depends what you get more of in the sample size the good games or the bad ones.
Do we even want Hayward to come back? We are watching Tatum take the next step because he's playing Haywards role. Our defense is much better without him and we haven't really struggled to get good looks without him.
We should be up 3-0, yet I also feel we haven't even played a really good game yet. The Raptors D is part of it, yet that's not the only thing. It's starting to remind me of the 2018 team. Yet instead of Brown and Tatum becoming very good players, they are learning how to take the steps to becoming great players. The last play sucked, yet that 8-0 run to the get ahead was all them and the best part it was easy buckets. Not them just blasting away with three point shots. The future is bright. We're legit title contenders with tons of young talent and three more picks in the up coming draft. Life is good!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 4, 2020 12:06:45 GMT -5
Brad also should have played Kanter 0 minutes. The loss is on Brad. Disagree on both accounts. Kanter made some sense because Toronto was playing LEGENDARY defense in the 3rd and we needed to score anyway possible. And this loss is not on Brad. I was so angry I had trouble sleeping last night, but rolling around in the bed gave me some time for perspective and you know what. I'm only getting angry when they play poorly and they definitely didn't play poorly last night. Anything can happen in a game and sadly something very rare happened against us. If this is a series changer and we don't make it past Toronto, then they were never a contender to begin with and then it at least would end early. Like Nietzche said, "hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man." Taking down the champs is not supposed to be easy. I'm sorry but with no Leonard that isn't the same team.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 4, 2020 14:50:11 GMT -5
I'm not going to blame anyone, yet it's like Stevens got bored and wanted to try new things in this game. Leaves in Williams for a crazy long stretch for no reason which allowed Siakam to get going. Which was funny given the discussion we just had. Why? Rotating defenders on him had worked all series long. I'm not surprised he'd play Kanter, yet using him like that for four minutes made zero sense. To guard the inbound vs not is splitting hairs, I see both sides. Yet why Taco over Robert Williams? Williams has experience and Lowry knows he can jump out of the gym, while also knowing Taco can't jump. I just don't get that, role with the guys you are playing, the guys with experience. That will help communication. It seems kinda clear Smart is like a Jackie Bradley, yet it's game to game with him. He's basically the same guy he's always been. It just depends what you get more of in the sample size the good games or the bad ones. Do we even want Hayward to come back? We are watching Tatum take the next step because he's playing Haywards role. Our defense is much better without him and we haven't really struggled to get good looks without him. We should be up 3-0, yet I also feel we haven't even played a really good game yet. The Raptors D is part of it, yet that's not the only thing. It's starting to remind me of the 2018 team. Yet instead of Brown and Tatum becoming very good players, they are learning how to take the steps to becoming great players. The last play sucked, yet that 8-0 run to the get ahead was all them and the best part it was easy buckets. Not them just blasting away with three point shots. The future is bright. We're legit title contenders with tons of young talent and three more picks in the up coming draft. Life is good! Yes we want Hayward to come back
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 4, 2020 14:51:22 GMT -5
Disagree on both accounts. Kanter made some sense because Toronto was playing LEGENDARY defense in the 3rd and we needed to score anyway possible. And this loss is not on Brad. I was so angry I had trouble sleeping last night, but rolling around in the bed gave me some time for perspective and you know what. I'm only getting angry when they play poorly and they definitely didn't play poorly last night. Anything can happen in a game and sadly something very rare happened against us. If this is a series changer and we don't make it past Toronto, then they were never a contender to begin with and then it at least would end early. Like Nietzche said, "hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man." Taking down the champs is not supposed to be easy. I'm sorry but with no Leonard that isn't the same team. Agreed it’s not the same team but they are dangerous and came back 2-0 from the Bucks last year - I get they had Leonard but Lowrie is a gamer.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 4, 2020 15:48:08 GMT -5
I'm sorry but with no Leonard that isn't the same team. Agreed it’s not the same team but they are dangerous and came back 2-0 from the Bucks last year - I get they had Leonard but Lowrie is a gamer. Good solid team that doesn't give up. Yet we're the same type team, just with more offensive firepower. Last three games we outplayed them for all but .5 seconds. They are much more scared of Tatum, Walker and Brown combo than we are of Lowry, VanVleet and Siakam. I'm not worried one bit frankly. It's gone 100% as I expected. Good team with a chip on their shoulder isn't just going to roll over. Yet I'm not scared that Lowry is going to go off four times in seven games either. If that's your big worry, we are in great shape. This is actually the perfect team to face, as you won't run into a more physical defensive team that plays all out in the playoffs. I'm fully enjoying having the more talented team, unlike 2018. Leonard would change everything. Go from having maybe the best three players, at minimum likely the top two guys. To the Raptors having the best player. That would worry me, that would scare the crap out of me.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 4, 2020 16:56:19 GMT -5
Agreed it’s not the same team but they are dangerous and came back 2-0 from the Bucks last year - I get they had Leonard but Lowrie is a gamer. Good solid team that doesn't give up. Yet we're the same type team, just with more offensive firepower. Last three games we outplayed them for all but .5 seconds. They are much more scared of Tatum, Walker and Brown combo than we are of Lowry, VanVleet and Siakam. I'm not worried one bit frankly. It's gone 100% as I expected. Good team with a chip on their shoulder isn't just going to roll over. Yet I'm not scared that Lowry is going to go off four times in seven games either. If that's your big worry, we are in great shape. This is actually the perfect team to face, as you won't run into a more physical defensive team that plays all out in the playoffs. I'm fully enjoying having the more talented team, unlike 2018. Leonard would change everything. Go from having maybe the best three players, at minimum likely the top two guys. To the Raptors having the best player. That would worry me, that would scare the crap out of me. Interesting stat - the raptors are out scoring the Celtics in the minutes Lowry plays. If he keeps playing 46 a night it could be a different series. All I’m saying is this is a series now. Not a given what happens
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 4, 2020 17:48:57 GMT -5
Interesting stat Walker is plus 33, Smart plus 24, Tatum plus 13 and Brown plus 4 for the series.
Lowry is plus 6, VanVleet is minus 35 and Siakam is minus 10. OG is minus 15.
So no this isn't a different series if Lowry plays 46 minutes a night. He hasn't even been positive for all three games, with a negative -5 in the first game. He was negative in game three till that OG shot also.
That in a nutshell is why I feel the way I do. Our top players are better and Smart, Tatum and Brown can all play huge minutes if they had too. While also not wearing down like the older Lowry is likely to do.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 4, 2020 20:58:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry but with no Leonard that isn't the same team.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 4, 2020 22:40:25 GMT -5
Don the heart is gone though, he's in LA.
The Bucks enter the 4th up 12 and lose by 15. 40-13 in the 4th. I basically haven't watched more than a few minutes, but wow. Heat winning the series wouldn't be a massive shock to me. Them sweeping the Bucks would be though. Yet shame on the Bucks for building an early 2000 team basically. Great size, little shooting. That team is best with Giannis at center, surround by shooters.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 5, 2020 11:06:38 GMT -5
Lowry is the heart of that team and was last year also... anyways, tonight is very close to a must win in my opinion
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