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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 8, 2019 18:16:37 GMT -5
Twins just named Alex Hassan Director of Player Development. Damn, I was wondering where he ended up. Hadn't bothered to do a search or I'd likely had figured out he was working his way up in the Twins system. Looks as if he's putting his time at Duke to good use.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 9, 2019 22:54:25 GMT -5
So, I've long been of the opinion that the Diamondbacks uniforms were almost good, with very cool lettering and dark red/black color scheme, but there was too much **stuff** going on with them - extra colors and that insane dotted thing that I think was supposed to be scales. Well, they scaled those uniforms back (PUN STRONGLY INTENDED) and the results are good. I'd swap them so they had the red lettering with black outline, but I think it works. I still think the hat is a little bland - missing some contrast - but overall this is a good look. Big fan of the red alternates (I don't think any other team has such a deep-red color so it shows well). The teal & black alternate is a nice homage to their original uniforms which were hideous. The black alternate is bland as hell. I don't think there are any black baseball unis that I like.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 12, 2019 4:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 12, 2019 18:05:41 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 12, 2019 18:37:04 GMT -5
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Nov 12, 2019 19:33:53 GMT -5
how much Cora knew ? that is interesting. I am guessing he knew everything. Kind of glad this came out and kinda not glad. The guy who spilled the beans really has nothing to gain by going public. He apparently told a lot of players, so I am not sure how effective it would be anyway
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 12, 2019 20:26:45 GMT -5
Good Fangraphs narrative about Tommy John - no, not the surgery the pitcher! Includes a video with Curt Gowdy in the booth and Tony Kubek on the field for an interview memorialized by the YouTube time machine. It's all about the guy with the name that will live on in a thousand dead arms that came back to life.
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Post by patford on Nov 12, 2019 22:44:39 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 13, 2019 0:59:53 GMT -5
Not sure why you say that. He sounds just like others who've grown tired of endless spin from the Astros. NY isn't the only baseball town that thinks that. The article is really a serious putdown of the commissioner who's portrayed as just one more toothless tool of the owners. No surprise there. The Astros seem to have him in their hip pocket.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 13, 2019 4:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 13, 2019 5:43:31 GMT -5
That's all the proof needed right there.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 13, 2019 6:09:00 GMT -5
Local boy makes good:
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 13, 2019 15:36:48 GMT -5
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Post by soxfaninnj on Nov 13, 2019 16:50:55 GMT -5
People realize that sign stealing has been a thing in baseball since baseball started right?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 13, 2019 17:29:59 GMT -5
People realize that sign stealing has been a thing in baseball since baseball started right? I'll interject here. It has been part of the game, but technology changes both the scale and scope of what and how much you can do and that really matters. Environmental history is a case in point. What were fairly low-grade effects for most of human civilization became, starting in the late 19th century, enormous changes. The scale of those activities, and the scope of their reach went planetary. We will not be going backwards with tech, only forwards. My suggestion is that MLB needs to get some really bright lines down now. The Astros' automated sign-stealing would seem to be as good a place as any to start.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 13, 2019 20:18:51 GMT -5
People realize that sign stealing has been a thing in baseball since baseball started right? You realize that it's against the rules to use electronic equipment to steal signs right? And it's very against the rules to have a hidden camera in CF relaying that information in real time to the dugout right so they can bang on a trash can right?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 14, 2019 7:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Nov 14, 2019 8:40:54 GMT -5
I think it'll be a little unfair if this is treated any more seriously than the Red Sox and Yankees that same year. It's wrong but similarly wrong.
Though I'm still surprised how little came out of those incidents at the time, and thus surprised that this is now a bigger deal. Is it because the Astros won the WS that year? Because the offseason is slow, and the Red Sox/Yankees stuff came mid-season? Because the Astros are on journalist hit lists given their poor treatment of reporters the past year? Or is there some detail that makes this somehow more egregious that we can't see since there was little detail given in the Sox/MFY incidents.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 14, 2019 8:55:44 GMT -5
I think it'll be a little unfair if this is treated any more seriously than the Red Sox and Yankees that same year. It's wrong but similarly wrong. Though I'm still surprised how little came out of those incidents at the time, and thus surprised that this is now a bigger deal. Is it because the Astros won the WS that year? Because the offseason is slow, and the Red Sox/Yankees stuff came mid-season? Because the Astros are on journalist hit lists given their poor treatment of reporters the past year? Or is there some detail that makes this somehow more egregious that we can't see since there was little detail given in the Sox/MFY incidents. It is a bit different. The Red Sox weren't using those apple watches to steal signs. They were using the apple watches to communicate among each other once they had already stolen the signs. I'd like to think they stole the signs the old fashioned non technological way. But then they used the technology to relay them to each other rather than simply walking the ten to twenty feet across the dugout to simply verbally tell their teammates what they've picked up. At least that's how I remember Lou Merloni explaining it. It seemed like a plausible explanation to me and a really foolish thing for the Red Sox players to do. The Red Sox were complaining that the Yankees had a camera stationed in CF that they were using to pick up the signs, which is using technology to cheat (rather than using it to communicate what you have already picked up on via old fashioned means). At least I think that's how it went down if I can remember correctly.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 14, 2019 9:32:50 GMT -5
I mean at least a little bit of this is the fact that the Astros are ripe for the punishin'. If Mike Fiers went to the press to say that the Brewers were cheating I don't know if the story would've been as hot. So in that sense, it's probably not entirely fair in the sense that the Astros are being held to a different standard for this very specific piece of rulebreaking. But also the Astros also haven't done anything to earn anyone's sympathy or the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 14, 2019 9:47:52 GMT -5
For me, it's a shame because I like a lot of the specific Astros players.
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Post by mobaz on Nov 14, 2019 9:57:03 GMT -5
For me, it's a shame because I like a lot of the specific Astros players. I want to root for Alex Bregman and Altuve and Springer. Cole even if he's a mercenary. But between the Verlander stuff, the SI reporter and this (coupled with the complete organizational dysfunction in public response every step of the way), it's hard. Even when the Cardinals-Astros hacking scandal went down, Jeff Luhnow was able to turn the tide from victim to scuzzball pretty quickly if I remember. Having hedge-fund billionaires and management consultants take over sports has ethical consequences.
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Post by ematz1423 on Nov 14, 2019 10:33:54 GMT -5
I just read an article saying that Alex Cora & Carlos Beltran were involved with the sign stealing and will be interviewed. Should there be any worry somehow the Red Sox organization will end up getting some sort of slap on the wrist due to that? I sure would hope not but the MLB does some crazy things sometimes.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Nov 14, 2019 10:48:48 GMT -5
People realize that sign stealing has been a thing in baseball since baseball started right? You realize that it's against the rules to use electronic equipment to steal signs right? And it's very against the rules to have a hidden camera in CF relaying that information in real time to the dugout right so they can bang on a trash can right? Like the Sox did with the Apple watches?? In my opinion it’s not a big deal if it’s such a problem why not give the catcher and pitcher their own electronic devices so they don’t have to use signs.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 14, 2019 11:33:20 GMT -5
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