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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 28, 2020 18:11:02 GMT -5
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Post by badfishnbc on Apr 29, 2020 10:08:13 GMT -5
The breakdown of teams that are "favorites" to sign each player is fascinating. It reads like a draft; only a few teams landed more than one player on this list. I would presume that MLB would view this system as working for teams in terms of sheer talent disbursement.
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Apr 29, 2020 10:28:32 GMT -5
The breakdown of teams that are "favorites" to sign each player is fascinating. It reads like a draft; only a few teams landed more than one player on this list. I would presume that MLB would view this system as working for teams in terms of sheer talent disbursement. [bri Setting up for an easy transition to the IFA draft for teams.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 29, 2020 10:58:05 GMT -5
With a hard cap, that's how it has to work.
And yeah, there's no question they're going to a draft eventually. Frankly, that's probably for the best - a system in which teams reach agreements with 14 and 15 year olds to sign them at 16 is just nuts. the problem is that the draft is going to come with even more tamping down of IFA bonuses, which is the real point.
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Post by soxfan101 on May 1, 2020 12:13:09 GMT -5
Do we have any chance at getting Yoelkis Cespedes? I saw he’s the number 1 prospect on MLB pipeline and hasn’t signed with any team yet.
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Post by ramireja on May 1, 2020 13:05:50 GMT -5
Do we have any chance at getting Yoelkis Cespedes? I saw he’s the number 1 prospect on MLB pipeline and hasn’t signed with any team yet. I would say very doubtful. If we sign Bleis and his bonus is ~$2M....that will be the biggest international bonus in 3 years for us. That would either leave us with not enough $ to sign Cespedes, or would leave us enough to sign him with little to no other signings >$10K. There is also the possibility that we acquire some extra international spending money, but I think more teams are reluctant to part with that money now that no teams are restricted from spending and Baltimore has begun to invest in international prospects.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 1, 2020 13:16:36 GMT -5
Do we have any chance at getting Yoelkis Cespedes? I saw he’s the number 1 prospect on MLB pipeline and hasn’t signed with any team yet. I would say very doubtful. If we sign Bleis and his bonus is ~$2M....that will be the biggest international bonus in 3 years for us. That would either leave us with not enough $ to sign Cespedes, or would leave us enough to sign him with little to no other signings >$10K. There is also the possibility that we acquire some extra international spending money, but I think more teams are reluctant to part with that money now that no teams are restricted from spending and Baltimore has begun to invest in international prospects. Note that as part of the March deal between MLB/MLBPA, teams are prohibited from trading for extra bonus pool $$ in the next two signing periods: www.baseballamerica.com/stories/new-deal-saves-2020-mlb-draft-but-hurts-incoming-talent/.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 4, 2020 10:18:37 GMT -5
More video of Bleis:
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Post by alnipper on May 4, 2020 11:33:49 GMT -5
I personally like our approach to not spending our money into very few top end prospects. These kids are to young and more risky to know what you got. So I like spreading out our bonuses like the Sox have done recently. I do not mind a 2 million dollar sign like Bleis at all. Just one larger signing though.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 1, 2020 8:13:02 GMT -5
Ben Badler released his preview of the Red Sox signing class: -Miguel Bleis (DR) - already know about him, athletic CF, quick bat (bonus in the $1.5-$2 million range) -Luis Ravelo (DR) - one of the best defensive SS in the class (his highlight clips are pretty great), has grown quite a bit, high baseball IQ, limited speed, shown some positive trends with the bat (bonus in the $500k range) -Enderso Lira (VZ) - projects to stay behind the plate, solid bat-to-ball skills and gap power Also expected to sign "two of the more prominent arms in the class" - RHP Alvaro Mejias (VZ) and LHP Peyton Nunez (DR) www.baseballamerica.com/stories/boston-red-sox-2020-21-international-signing-preview/
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 1, 2020 8:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 1, 2020 8:39:08 GMT -5
Me likey the hands. I like some feel and some flash.
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Post by soxfan101 on Jun 1, 2020 10:03:09 GMT -5
Feels like The three position players are all very good defenders
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 2, 2020 10:49:00 GMT -5
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Post by soxfan101 on Jun 2, 2020 19:39:42 GMT -5
Bleis I think is the Red Sox biggest signing from the Dominican since Devers. Would be great if Bleis becomes a major difference maker that can move through and dominate the minors like DeverS
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 2, 2020 22:42:20 GMT -5
FWIW, Acosta got the same bonus the year after Devers.
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Post by soxfan101 on Jun 2, 2020 22:46:24 GMT -5
I stand corrected then, that said hopefully Bleis is a major game changing kid of player. Seems like the type of player that will hopefully keep getting better and better
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 3, 2020 9:50:56 GMT -5
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Post by borisman on Jun 3, 2020 9:51:05 GMT -5
Ben Badler released his preview of the Red Sox signing class: -Miguel Bleis (DR) - already know about him, athletic CF, quick bat (bonus in the $1.5-$2 million range) -Luis Ravelo (DR) - one of the best defensive SS in the class (his highlight clips are pretty great), has grown quite a bit, high baseball IQ, limited speed, shown some positive trends with the bat (bonus in the $500k range) -Enderso Lira (VZ) - projects to stay behind the plate, solid bat-to-ball skills and gap power Also expected to sign "two of the more prominent arms in the class" - RHP Alvaro Mejias (VZ) and LHP Peyton Nunez (DR) www.baseballamerica.com/stories/boston-red-sox-2020-21-international-signing-preview/Is it possible to post where each of the above prospects are ranked on BA's top 50 list? Also curious if either Mejias or Nunez are on that list. Looks like a good haul so far. We really need to develop some catchers and I think we'll grab one in the draft this year (a college one). It's nice to see we get penalized for any IFA $. It's also not a good year to go crazy spending and lose a draft pick in next year's draft. One last thing: what are the chances that next years IFA's start getting drafted? Is it too late now to implement a draft and it may have to wait until following year since teams are already making "relationships" with prospects?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 3, 2020 9:56:51 GMT -5
Bleis is ranked #19 and Lira is #50. Remember, it's by bonus (and not talent).
With the CBA looming, I'm sure the international draft will be part of the negotiations. The CBA expires at the end of 2021, so we've got at least one more cycle after this one, so earliest I would assume is 2022.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 3, 2020 10:11:25 GMT -5
Not necessarily. The owners have the ability to push back both this and the following signing period 6 months. I wouldn't put it past them to push the 2021 class back until after the CBA expires and then try to make that the first International Draft class.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 3, 2020 10:13:45 GMT -5
Right, I was kind of operating under the assumption that the signing periods won't get pushed back. It's all guess work at this point though.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jun 6, 2020 13:34:26 GMT -5
Im glad that you guys had mentioned that the rankings are based on bonus, and not on talent. I was always confused by the future tool numbers seeming like they were jumbled a bit. Not in all cases obviously where money tends to be tied to talent.
That being said it definitely looks like an interesting group they plan to sign. It is so hard to judge where these kids will be in the future so I like that they are not going balls to the wall on guys. I wish more videos could be posted on these kids to see thing like mechanics, bat speed, swing length etc. Bleis for example shows a longer swing in one video, but shows a little more compact in the other. The bat speed I didn't see plus, but thats the downside of seeing just BP. This is a 16 year old kid so things happen when they end their growth spurts.
FWIW I am usually uncomfortable with super high bonus signings with J2 players, but A kid like Daniel Flores I was all for it. Its incredibly unfortunate what happened to him, but hard to doubt the talent. 1 million for a catcher this year will be a nice chance of pace from a low signing. I just hope his bat shows promise because we severely need that now. Someone has to break the chain of Jekyll and Hyde catchers we have been getting.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 6, 2020 19:20:12 GMT -5
Bleis has the whip action going with the bat. That swing reminds me of BJ Upton's, and he already has the same physical profile. Hopefully the contact rate will be better than Upton's.
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Post by sdiaz1 on Jun 6, 2020 23:32:12 GMT -5
Bleis has the whip action going with the bat. That swing reminds me of BJ Upton's, and he already has the same physical profile. Hopefully the contact rate will be better than Upton's. Well if Bleis posts over 24 Career War we should plenty happy. Bj Upton was actually a pretty damn good player for 6 years averaging 3.8 War/season over his peak.
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