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MLB plotting playoff expansion — with reality TV twist
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Post by ramireja on Feb 10, 2020 17:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by soxfaninnj on Feb 10, 2020 17:22:48 GMT -5
Another example on how bad Manfred is at his job and needs to be fired immediately.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 10, 2020 17:24:08 GMT -5
Imagine a team picking its playoff opponent. Think about Brian Cashman and the Yankees deciding whether to face the Red Sox or avoid them in the first round of the postseason. All on live TV. Well, it is probably coming soon to the major leagues. MLB is seriously weighing a move from five to seven playoff teams in each league beginning in 2022, The Post has learned. In this concept, the team with the best record in each league would receive a bye to avoid the wild-card round and go directly to the Division Series. The two other division winners and the wild card with the next best record would each host all three games in a best-of-three wild-card round. So the bottom three wild cards would have no first-round home games. The division winner with the second-best record in a league would then get the first pick of its opponent from those lower three wild cards, then the other division winner would pick, leaving the last two wild cards to play each other. nypost.com/2020/02/10/mlb-plotting-playoff-expansion-with-reality-tv-twist/
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 10, 2020 17:31:29 GMT -5
May as well get rid of the regular season.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 10, 2020 17:32:27 GMT -5
That is absolutely brutal.
Why even bother having a regular season. Why not just have every team make the playoffs? God this is stupid. Maybe every inning can start with a runner on 2b, too while we're at it.
I was fine with the wild card playoff game because it made it more important to win the division. That's out the window with this joke of a concept.
I hope whoever's idea this is gets fired.
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Post by orion09 on Feb 10, 2020 17:32:39 GMT -5
It’s a very interesting idea. More playoff teams = more teams willing to push chips in and “go for it” = a more vibrant and healthy league. The “choose your opponent” factor would also make things more dramatic - imagine choosing wrong and getting swept.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 10, 2020 17:33:57 GMT -5
Instead of playing the games, they could just roll dice and it would be just as exciting.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 10, 2020 17:35:52 GMT -5
It’s a very interesting idea. More playoff teams = more teams willing to push chips in and “go for it” = a more vibrant and healthy league. The “choose your opponent” factor would also make things more dramatic - imagine choosing wrong and getting swept. And great teams are more likely than ever to not win, while teams that are under .500 would. So maybe then, they'll start awarding points to teams that get to extra innings and have a home run derby to decide the game so that no team loses. One would win and one would get an overtime loss, making it so that almost no team is under .500. In fact, just shorten the games to 3 innings.
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Post by orion09 on Feb 10, 2020 17:45:32 GMT -5
It’s a very interesting idea. More playoff teams = more teams willing to push chips in and “go for it” = a more vibrant and healthy league. The “choose your opponent” factor would also make things more dramatic - imagine choosing wrong and getting swept. And great teams are more likely than ever to not win, while teams that are under .500 would. Yeah, that’s the downside. Also that it eliminates some of the incentive to win your division, and along with it some of the traditional “division race” drama. On the other hand, I loved watching the Nationals win, so I wouldn’t be averse to a system that brings us more of that kind of story.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 10, 2020 18:03:52 GMT -5
And great teams are more likely than ever to not win, while teams that are under .500 would. Yeah, that’s the downside. Also that it eliminates some of the incentive to win your division, and along with it some of the traditional “division race” drama. On the other hand, I loved watching the Nationals win, so I wouldn’t be averse to a system that brings us more of that kind of story. I'm always of the opinion that if the best (or almost best) team didn't win, there's something wrong with the playoff structure. But they're eventually going to make me stop watching because it's all about the people with zero attention span who will never pay or support a team that isn't winning. Screw everyone else.
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Post by nomar on Feb 10, 2020 18:06:32 GMT -5
Lol the MLB needs to clean house
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Feb 10, 2020 18:08:56 GMT -5
Yeah, that’s the downside. Also that it eliminates some of the incentive to win your division, and along with it some of the traditional “division race” drama. On the other hand, I loved watching the Nationals win, so I wouldn’t be averse to a system that brings us more of that kind of story. I'm always of the opinion that if the best (or almost best) team didn't win, there's something wrong with the playoff structure. But they're eventually going to make me stop watching because it's all about the people with zero attention span who will never pay or support a team that isn't winning. Screw everyone else. Mathematically impossible in baseball. You'd need a 50 game series.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 10, 2020 18:09:52 GMT -5
The NHL has 25 teams out of 31 that have "won more than they have lost." Coming soon to every professional sports league.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 10, 2020 18:10:47 GMT -5
I'm always of the opinion that if the best (or almost best) team didn't win, there's something wrong with the playoff structure. But they're eventually going to make me stop watching because it's all about the people with zero attention span who will never pay or support a team that isn't winning. Screw everyone else. Mathematically impossible in baseball. You'd need a 50 game series. It worked for almost 100 years when there was only the World Series. The first round was 154 games.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Feb 10, 2020 18:13:33 GMT -5
I actually love the pick your opponent idea. The expansion to 7 teams, though, is garbage, as is giving a first round bye to just one division winner. You just can't do that as long as schedules are imbalanced.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Feb 10, 2020 18:17:04 GMT -5
Mathematically impossible in baseball. You'd need a 50 game series. It worked for almost 100 years when there was only the World Series. The first round was 154 games. Would you really suggest baseball go back to that system? Yeah, it's a more "true" result and I guess therefore more satisfying to a handful of baseball nerds, but is it good for the game? I don't see how. I actually love the pick your opponent idea. The expansion to 7 teams, though, is garbage, as is giving a first round bye to just one division winner. You just can't do that as long as schedules are imbalanced. I'll leave someone else to figure out the ideal slotting system/etc, but in general, an expanded playoff structure with more levels of slotting yields more meaningful regular season games. Baseball needs that.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 10, 2020 18:57:47 GMT -5
I totally hate reality TV, which is BS, and in my opinion to blame for a lot of the crap we see these days but I won't go further down that foxhole.
Reality (or scripted as it really is) TV is going to make the selection process really nauseating.
Hey, maybe they can do for Mookie what LeBron James did - a reality TV show selecting his new team. He could try doing the waterworks, tug at the heart anguish of not selecting the Red Sox, whose bid is 50 million short of what LA offered. Oh the drama. (Barf).
I always love sports because it's naturally unscripted even if at times you'd think the higher powers are scripting it. Please don't take that away from me and turn it into reality TV drivel.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Feb 10, 2020 19:45:54 GMT -5
I actually love the pick your opponent idea. The expansion to 7 teams, though, is garbage, as is giving a first round bye to just one division winner. You just can't do that as long as schedules are imbalanced. I'll leave someone else to figure out the ideal slotting system/etc, but in general, an expanded playoff structure with more levels of slotting yields more meaningful regular season games. Baseball needs that. I agree in general, and I think there are some pretty exciting slotting possibilities. I just don't think you can give slotting advantages to some division winners but not others until you work to make the schedules more balanced. Cleveland shouldn't get a first round bye just because they play in the Central.
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Feb 10, 2020 20:37:29 GMT -5
I'd have to know more, but on the surface, I don't care for the whole "reality TV" aspect of it. I'm old school.
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Post by Don Caballero on Feb 10, 2020 20:49:37 GMT -5
Man remember when last offseason was really boring and then this offseason became this absolute black hole of constant imbecility? I miss those days.
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Post by beasleyrockah on Feb 10, 2020 21:01:28 GMT -5
I'd have to know more, but on the surface, I don't care for the whole "reality TV" aspect of it. I'm old school. Don't get caught up on the "reality tv" headline - this is as old school as it gets. Calling out your opponent, your squad against their squad, it's literally how every kid grows up playing sports. Fans complain about how players get along too well now and the hatred/competitiveness isn't there. An easy way to spark bad blood is to tell a team "we think you are the easiest opponent". It attracts attention to each series, generates free publicity for the league, helps alert the casual fans the playoffs are starting, and rewards the better teams from the regular season. The best team should get the advantage of choosing their opponent. The 2018 path through the Yankees and Astros was epic, but should the 108 win Red Sox have been forced to play the 100 win Yankees while the lesser Astros got the 91 win Indians? This process will be more fair, less arbitrary, and generates attention for the MLB playoffs. It's not like you have to watch the selection show, but I could easily see it being must watch tv, as coaches/executives or players are always so careful to not insult their opponents. It'll be fun to see them sweat and try to rationalize why choosing that team over others wasn't actually an insult.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 10, 2020 21:16:44 GMT -5
I'd have to know more, but on the surface, I don't care for the whole "reality TV" aspect of it. I'm old school. Don't get caught up on the "reality tv" headline - this is as old school as it gets. Calling out your opponent, your squad against their squad, it's literally how every kid grows up playing sports. Fans complain about how players get along too well now and the hatred/competitiveness isn't there. An easy way to spark bad blood is to tell a team "we think you are the easiest opponent". It attracts attention to each series, generates free publicity for the league, helps alert the casual fans the playoffs are starting, and rewards the better teams from the regular season. The best team should get the advantage of choosing their opponent. The 2018 path through the Yankees and Astros was epic, but should the 108 win Red Sox have been forced to play the 100 win Yankees while the lesser Astros got the 91 win Indians? This process will be more fair, less arbitrary, and generates attention for the MLB playoffs. It's not like you have to watch the selection show, but I could easily see it being must watch tv, as coaches/executives or players are always so careful to not insult their opponents. It'll be fun to see them sweat and try to rationalize why choosing that team over others wasn't actually an insult.Insincere diplomatic language that aims to minimize conflict. Thrilling.
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Post by Addam603 on Feb 10, 2020 21:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by kevfc89 on Feb 10, 2020 21:35:53 GMT -5
It worked for almost 100 years when there was only the World Series. The first round was 154 games. Would you really suggest baseball go back to that system? Yeah, it's a more "true" result and I guess therefore more satisfying to a handful of baseball nerds, but is it good for the game? I don't see how. I actually love the pick your opponent idea. The expansion to 7 teams, though, is garbage, as is giving a first round bye to just one division winner. You just can't do that as long as schedules are imbalanced. I'll leave someone else to figure out the ideal slotting system/etc, but in general, an expanded playoff structure with more levels of slotting yields more meaningful regular season games. Baseball needs that. If you thought trading Betts was a bad/financially driven decision now, just wait until they let more teams into the playoffs. Teams will have even more incentive to trade a star like Betts if they can settle for a high-80s win team and still grab a playoff spot.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Feb 10, 2020 21:36:11 GMT -5
I would like to see the number playoffs teams expanded in some manner. I would do it in conjunction with expansion of at least one team in each league and a change to a four division/ playoff format like the NFL has. Two top division winners get a 1st round bye. The other two and the two best 2nd place ( must be 2nd place ) finishers play a 2 out of 3 round one at the home of the division winner. ( I like that twist). Rounds two, three and the WS are best of 7 with home field like it is today. This gives advantage to the teams that were the best in the regular season, as it should be, while creating an additional division race. In this format #6 team could still end up eliminating # 1 but not in the 1st round. This also does away with the one game wild card playoff which I despise.
Also am warming up to the idea of the top team choosing its opponent in rounds two and three. Why not give the team with the best record an opportunity to pick a team that just finished a 7 game series and who's pitching rotation is all screwed up over a team that played 5 games and could line their staff up advantageously.
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