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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 7, 2020 12:46:30 GMT -5
The point of the call was bringing together the heads of businesses that sell tickets to events in large venues on regular basis. The point of the call wasn't to discuss the merits of the on-field competition of the legitimate competitive sports. Also Trump has a long-time relationship with WWE, with two of the early Wrestlemanias being held at Trump Plaza, his appearance in storyline at a more recent one about a decade ago, and Linda McMahon being current head of the SBA. If nothing else he was doing his friends a solid while perhaps stroking his own ego. In other words, no point to discussing the "is WWE a sport?" question in this context. I understand all that, and I knew that was the thinking. Demolition derby brings a lot of crowds also. By having that list published, it throws them all in the same category by my way of thinking. They could just as easily have had a second call with pure entertainment venues. Personally, I would love to see WWE paired with the Metropolitan Opera. Whoa! Now that would be knockdown drag out. How many falls? ☺️
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Post by incandenza on Apr 7, 2020 13:00:14 GMT -5
I understand all that, and I knew that was the thinking. Demolition derby brings a lot of crowds also. By having that list published, it throws them all in the same category by my way of thinking. They could just as easily have had a second call with pure entertainment venues. Personally, I would love to see WWE paired with the Metropolitan Opera. Whoa! Now that would be knockdown drag out. How many falls? ☺️ WWE Presents: RigolettoI'd watch it.
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Post by dd on Apr 7, 2020 14:14:41 GMT -5
The point of the call was bringing together the heads of businesses that sell tickets to events in large venues on regular basis. The point of the call wasn't to discuss the merits of the on-field competition of the legitimate competitive sports. Also Trump has a long-time relationship with WWE, with two of the early Wrestlemanias being held at Trump Plaza, his appearance in storyline at a more recent one about a decade ago, and Linda McMahon being current head of the SBA. If nothing else he was doing his friends a solid while perhaps stroking his own ego. In other words, no point to discussing the "is WWE a sport?" question in this context. I understand all that, and I knew that was the thinking. Demolition derby brings a lot of crowds also. By having that list published, it throws them all in the same category by my way of thinking. They could just as easily have had a second call with pure entertainment venues. Personally, I would love to see WWE paired with the Metropolitan Opera. Sheesh! And I thought I'd wandered off topic! :-)
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Post by mobaz on Apr 8, 2020 7:09:02 GMT -5
Demolition Derby is declared 5th major American sport. Problem solved! LOVE some demo derby!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 8, 2020 9:20:02 GMT -5
The point of the call was bringing together the heads of businesses that sell tickets to events in large venues on regular basis. The point of the call wasn't to discuss the merits of the on-field competition of the legitimate competitive sports. Also Trump has a long-time relationship with WWE, with two of the early Wrestlemanias being held at Trump Plaza, his appearance in storyline at a more recent one about a decade ago, and Linda McMahon being current head of the SBA. If nothing else he was doing his friends a solid while perhaps stroking his own ego. In other words, no point to discussing the "is WWE a sport?" question in this context. I understand all that, and I knew that was the thinking. Demolition derby brings a lot of crowds also. By having that list published, it throws them all in the same category by my way of thinking. They could just as easily have had a second call with pure entertainment venues. Personally, I would love to see WWE paired with the Metropolitan Opera. It could also be because Sports Illustrated was lazy, or just wanted to use what he's most known for, but the XFL is still a thing, I think?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 10, 2020 11:42:21 GMT -5
One plan discussed per an article in WEEI.com is a 2020 realignment of divisions where some teams play in AZ and other play in FLA. Instead of an AL and a NL there would be the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League. Here's the article: weei.radio.com/articles/radiocom/mlbs-al-nl-could-be-scrapped-under-coronavirus-return-planThe Sox would be in FLA and this is how the divisions would align there: "According to Nightengale, the Red Sox would end up in a division with the Twins, Braves, Rays and Orioles. The Yankees would also be in the Florida league, but in a division with the Phillies, Blue Jays, Tigers and Pirates." The Red Sox would catch no break here as they'd be stuck in 4th place behind 3 strong teams, Minnesota, Atlanta, and Tampa. The Yankees would make out very well as they'd clean up in a division with Philly, Toronto, Detroit, and Pittsburgh. Too bad the Sox and Yanks can't trade places. Of course, this is if this proposal is what they go with and if there even is a baseball season. Both "leagues" would use the DH.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 10, 2020 17:06:47 GMT -5
One plan discussed per an article in WEEI.com is a 2020 realignment of divisions where some teams play in AZ and other play in FLA. Instead of an AL and a NL there would be the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League. Here's the article: weei.radio.com/articles/radiocom/mlbs-al-nl-could-be-scrapped-under-coronavirus-return-planThe Sox would be in FLA and this is how the divisions would align there: "According to Nightengale, the Red Sox would end up in a division with the Twins, Braves, Rays and Orioles. The Yankees would also be in the Florida league, but in a division with the Phillies, Blue Jays, Tigers and Pirates." The Red Sox would catch no break here as they'd be stuck in 4th place behind 3 strong teams, Minnesota, Atlanta, and Tampa. The Yankees would make out very well as they'd clean up in a division with Philly, Toronto, Detroit, and Pittsburgh. Too bad the Sox and Yanks can't trade places. Of course, this is if this proposal is what they go with and if there even is a baseball season. Both "leagues" would use the DH. I like that they're trying to be creative, but these proposals kind of have a scrawled-on-the-back-of-a-cockktail-napkin quality to them. Hard to take too seriously until there's a concrete protocol for what happens when a player (or stadium worker or clubhouse attendant or whatever) tests positive.
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Post by gerry on Apr 10, 2020 18:34:40 GMT -5
A guarantee that the nyy win the rings. Could this have been devised by NY based MLB??? Paranoia runs deep.
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Post by bosox on Apr 10, 2020 20:34:56 GMT -5
One plan discussed per an article in WEEI.com is a 2020 realignment of divisions where some teams play in AZ and other play in FLA. Instead of an AL and a NL there would be the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League. Here's the article: weei.radio.com/articles/radiocom/mlbs-al-nl-could-be-scrapped-under-coronavirus-return-planThe Sox would be in FLA and this is how the divisions would align there: "According to Nightengale, the Red Sox would end up in a division with the Twins, Braves, Rays and Orioles. The Yankees would also be in the Florida league, but in a division with the Phillies, Blue Jays, Tigers and Pirates." The Red Sox would catch no break here as they'd be stuck in 4th place behind 3 strong teams, Minnesota, Atlanta, and Tampa. The Yankees would make out very well as they'd clean up in a division with Philly, Toronto, Detroit, and Pittsburgh. Too bad the Sox and Yanks can't trade places. Of course, this is if this proposal is what they go with and if there even is a baseball season. Both "leagues" would use the DH. Are they going to have 3 divisions within the Grapefruit League. The Marlins, Cards, Mets, Astros and Nats will need to squeeze into a division.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 10, 2020 22:07:06 GMT -5
In picture form:
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Post by orion09 on Apr 10, 2020 22:34:00 GMT -5
In picture form: That Brewers logo is... not the best design work. The M and B just don’t register well, especially compared to the other 29 teams.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 10, 2020 23:11:04 GMT -5
In picture form: That Brewers logo is... not the best design work. The M and B just don’t register well, especially compared to the other 29 teams. I think just the opposite. I find it clever.
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Post by orion09 on Apr 11, 2020 0:26:20 GMT -5
That Brewers logo is... not the best design work. The M and B just don’t register well, especially compared to the other 29 teams. I think just the opposite. I find it clever. It’s definitely clever. I just don’t think it has the “registers at a glance” quality you want from a logo. Like, the Rangers’ “T” or the Angels’ “A” have very distinctive silhouettes - your brain makes the connection in a quarter of a second. “Oh, T with a little point in the stem, that’s a baseball team - it’s the Rangers.” The Brewers’ silhouette is just... kind of a blob. When I’ve seen it on hats, my brain gets confused and I have to stop for a second and look at it closely to figure out what it is. Maybe that will change with repeated exposure.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 11, 2020 0:55:38 GMT -5
They are all pretty much by recognition. There's nothing in the Red Sox logo that says Red Sox or baseball for that matter. To me, it's most noticable where I live, the Philippines, because you see a lot of Yankee hats but pretty much nobody even knows what the Yankees are. They only see New York.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 11, 2020 7:45:06 GMT -5
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Post by manfred on Apr 11, 2020 9:17:23 GMT -5
That Brewers logo is... not the best design work. The M and B just don’t register well, especially compared to the other 29 teams. I think just the opposite. I find it clever. It is funny that only two teams in baseball go with a non-letter logo: Jays and Orioles. Comparing this to the awesome list of minor league logos James put up, it feels like maybe a missed opportunity.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 11, 2020 12:38:48 GMT -5
I think just the opposite. I find it clever. It’s definitely clever. I just don’t think it has the “registers at a glance” quality you want from a logo. Like, the Rangers’ “T” or the Angels’ “A” have very distinctive silhouettes - your brain makes the connection in a quarter of a second. “Oh, T with a little point in the stem, that’s a baseball team - it’s the Rangers.” The Brewers’ silhouette is just... kind of a blob. When I’ve seen it on hats, my brain gets confused and I have to stop for a second and look at it closely to figure out what it is. Maybe that will change with repeated exposure. I don't think this is true at all, I think you're just familiar with them because you're a baseball fan - especially your Rangers example. I'm not sure some random person is going to notice a point in the stem of a T and immediately conclude that it's a Texas baseball team. If anything, I think the Brewers' logo is way more easily identifiable because it is clearly a baseball glove with a ball in the middle, and then you get the clever lettering. Other examples of team logos that make sense to baseball fans but would be extremely confusing for regular people are the Cardinals' and Giants' (their lettering is just kinda jumbled) or the Twins' (just because "Twin Cities" is not something you'd think of at first).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 12, 2020 7:13:43 GMT -5
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 14, 2020 19:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by johnsilver52 on Apr 14, 2020 20:31:31 GMT -5
Thought this was comical when heard earlier myself Sarasoxer.. Evidently cartoons have been deemed essential in our state now.. Maybe so those who choose to watch that rubbish can have a good laugh?
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 14, 2020 20:53:52 GMT -5
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Post by johnsilver52 on Apr 14, 2020 21:24:36 GMT -5
Was going to write something about McMahon.. Thought 1 of them was friends with Trump and also think he might have been on TV few times during those cartoon shows with old Vince??
Opening up the state to all sports might have been an opening salvo to try and lure potential MLB games here and not a dunce move as that lefty rag daily kos insinuates. Anything in it needs to be taken with a pound of salt to begin with imo.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 14, 2020 21:41:48 GMT -5
Let's not get too deeply into this rabbit hole, but yes there is a relationship there and Linda McMahon does indeed run the reelection "America First Action" SuperPAC: www.a1apac.org/leadership/I'm sure that's all just coincidence and that the esteemed Governor DeSantis took a thoughtful, well-considered dive into deeming a professional sports entertainment (don't call us wrestling!) federation to be essential on its merits alone. Turning this back toward the topic at hand, beyond the personal relationships and scripted nature that makes wrestling not necessarily a direct comparison to team sports, the biggest difference is the existence of a union. It's hard to imagine the players agreeing to the lifestyle away from their families that would be necessary to pull that off.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 14, 2020 22:07:31 GMT -5
This is interesting:
If I could, I would read the article to find out if this has anything to do with MLB's hopes for starting the season at some point. But from the tweet thread it looks like MLB was chosen for this project mainly because it's present in 30 cities around the US so it provides a nice geographically diverse sample. At any rate, it should be really interesting to see the results of this.
ADD: For a little more context... if anyone's wondering why MLB is getting the special treatment here, and not, say, essential workers, she says in another tweet: "they needed a way to organize and test 10,000 subjects as fast as possible across dozens of different communities in North America from all different races/ages/socioeconomic backgrounds. They're testing security guards, concessionaires, ushers, etc."
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Post by sittingstill on Apr 14, 2020 22:27:07 GMT -5
It does specifically say "The study, funded by private donors, has nothing to do with determining when to restart MLB games this season, both Bhattacharya [professor of medicine at Stanford University and one of the lead researchers of this study] and an MLB spokesman confirmed."
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